Returnable Transport Packaging Material In ASN ( EDI -856)

Hi,
We are working on inbound delivery creation with returnable transport packaging (RTP) materials. We want to create inbound delivery with RTP and we are passing RTP material in E1EDL24 without reference document (i.e. purchase order or PSA) as we are receiving without any reference.
We are using message type # DESADV & Basic type:DELVRY03. Currently, IDOC is failing and it's looking for reference PO for RTP material but we don't have RTP item on PO.
Any suggestion/guidance on how to handle RTP material with ASN and create inbound delivery with RTP material ? In otherword, I am looking for IDOC segement mandatory fields for RTP material.(Note : I can add item in inbound delivery without any reference but not able to do with ASN)
Thanks.
Regards,
Ravi

Hi Velu,
This scenario can be automated as well in BOM.
While maintaining the BOM for the subcontracting material, include the packaging component as twice, but one with negative quantity. PFB screen shot.
Also turn of the costing relevancy indicator and maintain material provision indicator as "K"(customer material) for both the line item.
So while doing GR for the sub contracting, system post automatically 543 and 545. Hope this is useful, if it is so, your rewards are awaited .
Regards,
Chinna

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Dear All,
I have a doubt regarding a new process to be followed in our company. We need to issue raw material to our subcontractor for processing. We also intend to send packaging material to the subcontractor along with the raw material. Ie We are sending the raw material to the subcontractor along with the packaging material ( say, in boxes).
I would like to know how to address this issue.
What We tried
Standard SAP is allowing the vendor's Packaging material to be "received" from the vendor when we Purchase material from the vendor using movement type 501 'M'. After this, we are able to see this as a "special stock" as RTP ( Returnable Transport Packaging ) in T code MMBE. After this we can issue the packaging material back to the vendor using movement type 502 'M' . There is also a provision to send " our" packaging material to a customer through a Sale order, and receive it back from them.
But is there any standard process for sending "our" packaging to a subcontractor and receiving it back from them ?
We also tried including the packaging material in BOM, and sending it through 541 movement but in this case, when we perform Goods receipt ( 101 movement of the parent material ), the packaging material gets consumed, which should not happen. We want them back in stock.
We also tried using the option "Non - Ordered item" for the packaging material while performing Goods Receipt of the parent material. But this would increase the stock of the packaging material without us even issuing the same to the vendor initially. ie More stock will be there than is actually present.
So how else do we address this issue ?
Regards,
Velu

Hi Velu,
This scenario can be automated as well in BOM.
While maintaining the BOM for the subcontracting material, include the packaging component as twice, but one with negative quantity. PFB screen shot.
Also turn of the costing relevancy indicator and maintain material provision indicator as "K"(customer material) for both the line item.
So while doing GR for the sub contracting, system post automatically 543 and 545. Hope this is useful, if it is so, your rewards are awaited .
Regards,
Chinna

Returnable transport packaging concept.

Dear Experts,
Please help me to understand Returnable transport packaging concept. what are the pre requisites involved like material master data. & regarding traceability of the material.

Hi all SAP GURUS,
we have 1 special requirement involving of Capital Tools/Equipments( Capital Asset ), which we need to send to different sites thru ordinary truck wherever it requires and once the work is complete at site then 2 possibilities
1) If there is no further demand on tools then again we will take back of tools from site to our plant
or
2) If any demand further for tools then we need to send these tools from that site itself to another site where it requires.(i.e means not taking back the tools from the site to our plant.)
Note : In some cases some of tools not further required then some we will take back to our plant and some are again sent to another site where ever it trequires
Requirements to be fulfilled are:
Till we didnt created any Material masters for this so suggest the best possible method to follow in order to suit the above requirement considering the below constraints.
1) Tracking of Capital Tools at every point of time
2) Considering the Excise and Taxes involved in the above process at different poins of time
3) Documents which are required to prepare as per all Laws.

Returnable Transport Package

Dear All,
My client wants to sell RTP material to customer, how to configure in WM.
Regards,
Suresh.

Hi Suresh,
I have published a document Customer RTP Process. Please check out the below link which will be helpful to you:
http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-28774.
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Returnable transport packaging

Hi,
When i do a GR for a PO, i also receive the RTP Stock with <b>501 M</b> Movement type giving the vendor name of the RTP stock.
When i am sending back the RTP Stock with <b>502 M</b> i can give a different vendor for the same stock.
Want to know is there any check on this stock so that it should sent back to same vendor.

Hi
You can't send the RTP stock of one vendor to another vendor with 502 M.System will throw error message M7 076 , Special stock of this vendor doesn't exist.This error will be called from program itself.
In your case i don't know why this is not giving the error.
Try by configuring the message as error in SPRO-> MM-> IM and PH -> Define attributes of system messages.
regards
Ramakrishna

Returnable transport packing

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It is agreed with the vendors that the empty oil drums and pallets will be returned to them.
1) Is it right to use LEIH material type for creating material master for empty drums and returnable packing?
2) Which report is available in the system from which I can see how much stock of Returnable transport packing is belonging to which vendor?.
thanks and regards

Hi,
LEIH is the correct matreial type used for RTP (Returnable Transport Packaging)
you can receive such materials via mvt. type 501 M and specify vendor.
please go through link for info on RTP.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/4d/4b9036dfe4b703e10000009b38f889/frameset.htm
you can get reports on basis of mvt type 501 M, MB1B ...
hope this helps.
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Seema

How to enter a returnable packaging material during inbound delivery?

Hi,
How do you add a returnable packaging material from vendor as a line item in the inbound delivery? When I try to add a LEIH type material as a line item in the inbound delivery (VL32N), the following error is displayed:
"No item category exists (Table T184L EL VERP ELP)"
Thanking you in advance,
Sreelakshmi

HI.
Please reffer the below link.
ERROR : No item category exists (Table T184L LB VERP )
Error while creating I/B delivery: No item category exists (Table T184L EL)
1) EL = is the delivery type you are using for Returns to Vendors
2) VERP = is the Item Category Group in the material master of
3) ELP= Item Usage
You have to add the missing configuration as follow:
IMGLogistics ExecutionShippingDeliveriesDefine Item Category
Determination in Deliveries(Transaction 0184).
Create a new entry or copy from an existing one for VERP. NOTE: The Delivery Item Category RLLN is the standard defined by SAP, be
sure you enter the one defined in you company.
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Regarding:Return process of Packaging material to Vendor

Dear SAP Experts,
When we purchase consumables material it come in packaging material from vendor.
Then we send packaging material back to vendor.But this process is mannual.
Now we want this process by system.
Please help to configure this procedure in my system.
With Regards
Mukul Kumar

hI,
I hope you are looking for packaging instruction for vendor.
As vendor will send the materiel in packaging and after delivering the material will take back the packaging material. if this is yes. Then it can be deal with Handling unit the benefit you would have of this is, harmonized way of packaging the material. And even you can create packaging instruction to vendor with weight and seize of the product .
Configuration as below for handling unit.
Go to SPRO> Logistics - General>Handling Unit Management--step1)>Define Packaging Material Types
Step 2) Define Material Group for Packaging Materials-
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All your setting is in place
Then go to POP1 to create packaging instruction.
And maintain determination record using POF1 with key combination as vendor /Plant/ material, for condition type RCPT For incoming material & SHIP-Ship to party material.
Or even you can send back the returnable packaging material by using 501M > MIGO>Other Movt type--> 501M.
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Material type for Vendors Returnable packaging material

Dear all,
I have a scenario where in i am recieving co2 gas from my vendor against a PO.
He is supplying it with cylinders i want to keep track of the cylinders and afetr using the gas want to return the cylinder to vendor.
Now the doubt arises, under which material type should I create this cylinder.
Doubt 1
I thougt of creating under the material type : LEIH, but this material type also contains the purchasing, accounting, sales view and same time in the config of the material type LEIH, value updating is not ticked, which is making me confuse.
Doubt 2
What I felt is, LEIH should be used for the our owns company returnable packaging material , which will go to the customer , but again for this also, these material should be valuated, since they belongs to our own stock , so why in standard SAP, value updation is not there.
Doubt 3
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Regards
Nitin

You can copy LEIH and create your own Materia Type say ZLEI. For this material type you can have only General Plant / Storage Data1 view enabled.
Remember, there are 2 materials here:
1. Gas
2. Returnable packaging (cylinder)
You can receive gas on unit basis if you dont want exact tracking (ie in KG). Use any procurement material type.
When you create the PO only mainitan Gas as the material.
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Hello!
I am writing regarding SAP note 848529 - we want to add packaging material (VERP) to the delivery document and move cross-company with sock transport order.
I made copy of movement type 601 and succesfully wrote off materials to consumption account.
Now I have problem - how to receive those materials in other end? Movements 101 and 501 doesn't work, because there is no reference document (for 101) and incorrect accounts are used for 501.

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Returnable packaging Material Flow

Hi,
I have setup Item Cateogry Grp as ZLEI (Copy of LEIH).
In the Delivery Item Cateogry determination, setup Item Cateogry ZZAL
(Copy of ZTAL) for delivery type ZLF and Item Cateogry Group ZLEI.
Completed the relevant settings for the determination of the returnable
packaging material in delivery through the packaging material type.
Still when I am picking the HU in my delivery, I am not able to get the
returnable packaging materials in my delivery after TO confirmation.
But if I change the Item Cateogry Group in material master as LEIH, it
works and I see my returnable packing materials in delivery.
Can somebody please advise why I am not able to use ZLEI (Copy of LEIH) item
cateogry group for determination of return materials in delivery.
Regards,
Harsh

Harsh,
The error is not in Item category group LEIH to ZLEI, it is in the item category From TAL to ZTAL.
Redo it slowly, the moment you copy TAL to ZTAL click tick mark then copy controls screen will apppear accept it by clicking ok.
Then Check Assignemnt of sales Document to item category check whether you are using the item category group you have created and item category assignemnt.
Check... Revert for Clarification
Regards
Sathya

Sales of returnable packaging material

Dear Experts,
Greetings!
My issue is how do I make a sell of returnable packing material? We are receiving the materials in forms of Bales(packagint unit).Now with those bales we get a wires as well.We may say it is a "Bailing wire".How do i get those bailing wire in stock so that I can sell it to the customer?
Plz advice.
Best Rgds
Nitin

I can understand the process, I just asked what this has to do with returnable packaging?
you dont have to return this to the vendors, you dont expect it returned from your customer. So why is it returnable packaging then?
I would not use returnable packaging material type for at least 2 reasons: it is a material type for a speical process in SAP, and you confuse the users putting materials in that material type but using then a different process.
In general you can sell anything. The big question is just how you want the material to be in your system.
should it be stock managed or not? should it be valuated or not.
if stock managed, then you have to create the stock yourself as you never ordered it. this can be done either with 501 movement, or as already mentioned by others with 202 movement, (561, 552 and inventory movement 70* are as well possible)

How to trace Returnable packaging material pending with the Customer.

Hello Everyone,
In case of Returnable packaging,
Is there any standard procedure, by which system can give you number of returnable packaging material with the custome.
Client's requirement is to have number of pallets with the customer on the Invoice.
Regards
Trupti Deulkar

hi,
1.Returnable packging issue has a special stock indicator which will show in the Inventor stock with whom the returnable packging material lies in MMBE.
Follow the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/dd/560051545a11d1a7020000e829fd11/content.htm
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Shekar

Returnable Package material

Hi Friends,
Need your help,
We purchase oil in drum and per pallet can hold 4 drums, after usage of oil we will send few drums and pallets back to vendor.
Questions I have :
Assumption :
1 Drum = 100 Lts
1. Do I need to create PO for Oil, drums and pallet, because while making receipt for 10,000 Lts of oil, system must understand I have received 100 drums and 25 pallets, there must not be any manual intervention in the process.
2. While returning, how I can handle partial return of empty Drums and pallets.
Thanks in Advance,
Ravi

Hi,
You can use HUM for this purpose.
In the inbound delivery based on your settings and master data system can:
- automatically pack the main items
- generate the packaging material items (drum & pallet in your case)
- post them to stock during GR.
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/09/4b2268d27211d3b4f7006094b9b9dd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/0e/b5d25ba71211d2b44e006094b9b9dd/frameset.htm
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We are working in a beer manufacturing industry....here manufactured beer is packed in to three types of packaging...
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I think this situation can be handled by Returnable Packaging - Sales.
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Read the SAP help, if your business process is different, then you can elaborate.
Regards
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