Returning without Purchase Order

Hi,
Whats the best process for returning goods when there is no purchase order. During the cutover we are converting only open POs into Oracle, so there wont be POs for returning goods against POs that were closed in legacy system.
Thanks

The solution is based on what is your definition of open PO?
1. PO Received but invoiced
2. PO Received and Invoiced but not paid
3. PO Received, invoiced and paid.
And the solution is required to two fold:
Accounting and Operations
Operations:
If you need to print a document to return the goods, you can use Move Order so that you can capture some address details of the supplier to print a return document. If not you can always use a Misc issue.
1. PO is received but not invoiced
I am sure this PO is converted, so you can use the PO returns. If not you can use Misc issue or Move order issue to Accrual Account (Cr Inventory and Dr Accrual). In this case when supplier replaces the material do the same (Misc Receipt (cr Accrual Account and Dr Inventory). If you are standard cost, assumption is that the cost remains the same.
2. PO Is receivd and invoiced
Return the goods in inventory to the Liability account (Cr Inventory and Dr Liability Account). When the supplier replaces you have to do the misc receipt again by using the liability account. This lets you use the same Invoice that is raised earlier to pay against (converted in AP). I am assuming you are not going to raise another PO for the same.
3. PO is received, invoiced and paid
In Inventory issue material (Cr. Inventory and Dr. Cash) and receive back in the same route (no AP converted).
Also it all depends on how your AP works.
Thanks
Nagamohan

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Hi Experts,
Is Vendor Returns doing Without Purchase Order and without doing any reversal of material document possible or not, please provide the details.
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Vivek.N.V

Hi,
It is not possible to do the vendor return without any document reference. You have to do the vendor return with reference of purchase order (161 Mvt.type), material document reference (122 Mvt.type) ,Reference to Delivery note (122 Mvt.type).
1) If the Purchase Order / GR is known then one can use Return delivery (122 Mtype).
There are two options
A) Return delivery Without SD Delivery
B) Return delivery With SD Delivery
2) In case purchase Order / GR is not traceable then one can send material back using "RETURN Purchase Order " Functionality (161 Mtype)
Again there are two ways
A) Purchase Return with Delivery
B) Purhcase Return Without Delivery.
Although as per my knowledge it meets all business requirements , but just wondering if there is another Process also available in SAP to return material back to Supplier.(May be for some specific business Cases).
Edited by: venkatesh kumar on May 8, 2010 11:12 AM

Material Return from 542 movement type without purchase order

HI Expert
I have a problem regaring material return from vendor through 542 mov type against purchase order.
when i transfer material to vendor with mov type 541. and after grv if we return material from vendor against purchase order.
system doesnot allow to return material against purchase order. it allows mov type 542 for returning material from venodr without pruchase order.
Suppose we have 10 quality for a component to transfer vendor we take grv and issue 5 qty through 543 move type automatically. if we want to take return 5 remaining qty from vendor against purchase order .
system doesnot allow to return component from vendor against purchase order.
but allow to return component from vendor without purchase order.
vendor stocks becomes less but purchase order still open for open quantity.
how we could control vendor's returing material with the reference of purchase order after grv.
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HI,
Are you creating return Po for subcontracting vendor with item category L.?
we used movement type 541 to send material to vendor ,now you want movement type 542 in system means take back from vendor?
I don't think so it will make work and make any sense
why you are not adjust your component with subcontracting adjustment in sap mm
check following link
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_470/helpdata/en/4d/2b908943ad11d189410000e829fbbd/content.htm]
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Don't want a Goods Receipt PO without Purchase Order

Hello Experts,
I am looking for a solution that Goods Receipt PO must be restricted as no Goods should be received without Purchase Order.
Is it possible ?
Help Required ....
Thanks & Best Regards,

Hi
This restriction is possible only by the 'SBO_SP_TransactionNotification' Stored procedure.
You can learn more about this stored procedure from the following link:
[https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e991e2b9-0901-0010-0395-ef5268b00aaf]
The following is the code which restricts GRPO created without PO
set ANSI_NULLS ON
set QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
go
ALTER proc [dbo].[SBO_SP_TransactionNotification]
@object_type nvarchar(25),     -- SBO Object Type
@transaction_type nchar(1),   -- [A]dd, <u>pdate, [D]elete, [C]ancel, C[L]ose
@num_of_cols_in_key int,
@list_of_key_cols_tab_del nvarchar(255),
@list_of_cols_val_tab_del nvarchar(255)
AS
begin
-- Return values
declare @error int    -- Result (0 for no error)
declare @error_message nvarchar (200)   -- Error string to be displayed
select @error = 0
select @error_message = N'Ok'
IF (@object_type='20')
BEGIN
/* Purchase Delivery Note (Goods Receipt PO)*/
if (@transaction_type='A')
BEGIN
IF (SELECT max(ISNULL(T0.BaseEntry,-1)) FROM PDN1 T0 WHERE T0.DocEntry = @list_of_cols_val_tab_del) != -1
BEGIN
set @error = 0
set @error_message = N'Ok'
END
ELSE
BEGIN
    set @error_message='Goods Receipt PO cannot be created directly. Copy from PO'
    set @error=1
END
END
END
-- Select the return values
select @error, @error_message
end

Goods Recipt without Purchase Order

Hi Experts,
Can any one Explain me the Process of Goods recipt without Purchase order.
1) What document type i need to select ?
2) Does i need to process MIRO for these ?
3) If it is a Usual material which i previously procuring throgh purchase order, How it reflect in Stock ?
4) Where can i find the difference of the Material which has purchased through Purchase Order and without Purchase Order ?
5) Does it affect usual stock ?
6) How to follow Vendor Returns for this ?
Plz Plz Give ur Valuable inputs on this.
Best Regards
Javeed

1) What document type i need to select ?
You don't need a document type, just use Tcode MIGO, then select mouvement Type 501
2) Does i need to process MIRO for these ?
No, there is no FI document.
3) If it is a Usual material which i previously procuring throgh purchase order, How it reflect in Stock ?
If your material valuation is "V" : overage price. your stock will be devaluated: Total value of stock will be inchanged, whereas the qty will increase, So the material net price will decrease
4) Where can i find the difference of the Material which has purchased through Purchase Order and without Purchase Order ?
You can lanayse goods mouvement through Tcode MB51, Also you can Tcode MR51 for analyzing.
5) Does it affect usual stock ?
Yes, if you don't use Split valuation, your stock will be homogeneous. So if you wish to keep separately the free goods you have to use split valuation
6) How to follow Vendor Returns for this ?
Use MIGO, mouvement Type 502

Capture Excise Invoice w.r .t Without Purchase order

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When i try to post J1IEX i.e Capture Excise Invoice w.r .t Without Purchase order i am getting the following error message :
Balance in transaction currency
Message no. F5702
Diagnosis
A balance has occurred in transaction currency 'INR' with the following details:
Exchange rate '00', amount '            1.000-' and currency key 'INR'.
The data in the transaction currency were transferred from the calling application.
System Response
Your data cannot be processed in FI.
Procedure
The error is probably in the calling application
Please help me to solve this issue
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Hi,
check in cin-basic settings- co code settings , there will be a check box "Rounding duty on procurement" , pls tick mark this and check it..
otherwise check in debit / credit selection for EWPO trans type . as per blw in - Logistics General  Tax on Goods Movements  India  Account Determination  Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
EWPO           Credit     CENVAT clearing account
EWPO           Debit     RG 23 AED account
EWPO           Debit     RG 23 BED account
EWPO           Debit     RG 23 ECS Account
EWPO           Debit     RG 23 NCCD account
EWPO           Debit     RG 23 SED account and ECS and SE CESS
Edited by: Jayakumar Raju A.S on Aug 19, 2009 6:36 PM

Post vendor Invoice without Purchase order.

Hi all
good afternoon
how can i post vendor Invoice without Purchase order.
And any option
Regards
Manju

Hi,
Use following transactions to do so;
1. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Others
Here use movement type as "501" and enter material, vendor, quantity, Plant, storage location, etc... manually and post the material document.
Here following A/c entry will appear;
(BSX) Stock Account - Dr
(GBB-ZOB) Expense A/c - Cr
2. FB60 - Post Vendor Invoice
Here following A/c entry will appear;
Vendor Account - Cr
Expense A/c - Dr
3. F-53 - Post Payment w.r.t. the Invoice posted in step2.
Here following A/c entry will appear;
Vendor Account - Dr
Bank Account - Cr
Note: - If you don't want to carry out inventory transactions then follow only steps 2 & 3.

Who is using SRM Invoice without Purchase Order?

Hello,
I want to implement SRM Invoice without Purchase Order as a method for our employees to enter their own non-purchase order invoices into SRM instead of having Accounts Payable enter them into R/3. The invoices would then go through financial approval workflow before posting in R/3 and being eligible for the next appropriate cheque run.
This will be a change to our corporate policy and I would like to connect with other companies who are allowing employees to enter their own invoices to find out whatever information or suggestions they can pass along to me.
Few facts:
We are running SRM 5.0 Classic with R/3 ERP 2005.
The invoices are for $3,000 or less.
We have Head Office plus many remote locations.
We would still send the invoices to Accounts Payable for retention.
Thank you,
Corinne Taylor

Hi Taylor,
We can enter the Invoice with out purchase Order also. But you need Invoice management system in SRM.
The Below document may help you and guide you further how to achieve.
Technical Description and Configuration Information
Purpose
The Business Package for Invoicing Clerk provides the possibility to use the Invoice Management System in the Portal. The Invoice Management System (IMS) allows you to process incoming invoices
(with and without purchase order) on the basis of exceptions.
Prerequisites
This document is intended to guide an administrator through the steps required to install and configure the Business Package for Invoicing Clerk. Previous knowledge of SAP architecture and systems, as well as a fundamental knowledge of the Internet and associated technologies are prerequisites.
To use the Business Package for Invoicing Clerk, the SAP SRM Server 5.5 must be installed in one of following ways in SAP ERP 2005:
·        SAP SRM Server as an add-on to SAP ECC Server (product instance SAP ERP 2005 SAP ECC) to run Supplier Relationship Management (SRM) in one client of the ERP system.
·        SAP SRM Server as a separate component to SAP ECC Server.
It is essential that you familiarize yourself with the contents of the corresponding Master Guide before starting to install the Business Package! All relevant system prerequisites are listed in the Master Guides.
You can find these guides for mySAP ERP and mySAP SRM on the SAP Service Marketplace at service.sap.com/instguides ®Installation & Upgrade Guides ® mySAP Business Suite Solutions:
●      mySAP ERP ® mySAP ERP 2005 ® Planning
●      mySAP SRM ® Using SRM Server 5.5
For more information on configuration, see SAP Solution Manager ® mySAP ERP 2005 ® Roles for the SAP NetWeaver Portal ®Invoicing Clerk. See also, mySAP SRM configuration information in SAP Solution Manager: Configuration ® mySAP SRM 5.0 ® Basic Settings for mySAP SRM.
See SAP Note 731386, Import of business packages with SAP NetWeaver. This note describes how to import business package EPA files into the SAP EP and how to install business package SCA files using the Software Deployment Manager.
Integration
The Business Package for Invoicing Clerk provides intranet/Internet access to several integrated backend systems. These include:
·        SAP SRM Server 5.5
·        SAP ECC 6.0
·        SAP Business Information Warehouse (BW) 7.0 (BI Content 7.2)
Prior to beginning your installation, you should establish which components are
required in your system landscape.
Architecture
The architecture of the business package is represented in the figure below:
Landscape: Business Package for Invoicing Clerk
Process Flow
Roles, Worksets, Pages and iViews
The following objects are available:
Role Invoicing Clerk
com.sap.pct.erp.invclerk.invoiceclerk
Workset: Invoicing
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Invoice iView
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Credit Memo iView
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Invoice/Credit Memo iView
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Invoice Post Processing iView
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com.sap.portal.navigation.worksetmap.RelatedServices
Document Overview iView
com.sap.pct.erp.invclerk.doc_overview
Document Quick Access iView
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Excessive Invoice Document iView
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Reports Overview
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Service Map iView
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Thanks & Best Regards
Girisha M S

Receipt material without purchase order

Dear ALL,
We want to create material receipt not without purchase order and try it by movement type 501 and its created. but problem is if material moving average is 0 then system post material without any account entry. now i want system restrict to user if value is 0 for posting.
Regards,
Mukesh

Hi.
Use the following logic in the system.
At the time of the creation of the material document pass the material number in the MBEW table with the entries as :
Material
Valuation area = equal to the plant number
check the material price = moving average or standard price.
in case both the material prices are 0 then display the error message in the MIGO screen. It will stop posting the 501 movement type.
I hope this helps

GR without purchase order?

Hello!
Is there any problem to implement GR, without purchase order, this may have an impact in Finance?
Thanks for you help

Hello,
You can use movement type like 561 for good receipt without PO but you can not invoice receipt with using MIRO. You must enter this invoice with using FI transaction like FB60. After good receipt without PO, system generates a FI document with 2 line items.
Stock account debit 1000 $
A dummy account credit 1000$
Then invoice receipt you must close balance for dummy acount. (With using FB60, post manually invoice)
A dummy account debit 1000 $
vendor credit 1000$
But Why don't use PO?
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Invoices without purchase order reference

Hi,
How to post Invoices without purchase order reference.
Utsav

hi,
You can post the invoice in following two ways:
1. Activating the G/L account tab and material tab near to PO reference tab...by this you can post the invoice to the given G/L account or material account...
To activate the tabs go to:
SPRO --> MM --> Purchasing --> PO --> confiure postings directly to G/L account or material account...
For this go to MIRO --> Enter the Base line date, payments terms and invoicing party and later enter the details in the G/L account and material data tab...and then save the invoice...posting will be done...
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Priyanka.P

Returns item purchase order

Hi
I have a requirement to create a returns item purchase order, Does this functionality exist in SRM5?
Regards,
Hila

EBP 5.0 -SRM 4.0 nO BUT SAPHAS GIVEN SOME GUIDLINES TO ACHIEVE IT.
EBP 5.5 -SRM 5.0 WE DO HAVE RETURN DELIVERY
send mail i send you the good docuemntation for this,
Muthu

Procedure for Returns for Purchase order

Dear all ,
can any one please let me know the complete procedure for returns for purchse orders
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Dec 21, 2011 6:51 AM

Hi,
If return involved without excise and taxes, then create of PO(ME21N), Enter Co. Code, Pur. Group, Purchase Organization, material number, quantity, plant & select Return Indicator & save.
Carry out transaction for return in t.code MIGO or MB01 with 161 movement type and then do Credit memo in MIRO t.code.
If excises involved , then add entry of 161 movement type for capturing Excise in following path:
SPRO --- >Logistics general -- -> tax on Goods Movements-- ->India --- > Business Transactions -- ->Specify Which Movement Types Involve Excise Invoices
And check link for details:
posting of return po's excise invoice
Regards,
Biju K

Modify the price in good receipt without purchase order

Hi gurus,
is there any way to modify the price of a material in the good receipt without a purchase order?
Kind Regards

HI,
way to modify the price of a material in the good receipt without a purchase order?
I am not sure what you want price of goods receipt means material price
try following
MR21 and change material price
Regards
Kailas Ugale

Extract Data Vendor without Purchase Order

Hi experts,
I have to extract data Vendor that has been invoiced without a Purchase Order.
Someone know how can I do it? with 0FI_GL_3??
Kind Regards,

Hi MP.
You can check it in the GL_4 extractor, IF you have enhanced it with EBELN (the PO number). If so, just run a report outputting vendor and PO = #.
If your GL_4 extractor is not enhanced with this field, you can try directly on BSEG-table in R/3 (with EBELN = <blank>).
OR, depending on how the invoices are booked, when they do not relate to a PO fx, a particular acc.doc.type is used, then you could again use the GL_4 data, this time restricting on the ac_doc_type = <the type used for invoices without orders>
Good luck!
Jacob
Edited by: Jacob Jansen on Oct 8, 2009 6:47 PM
Sorry - forgot that you will have to look up the vendor in AP_o03 dso, by matching the accounting doc number.....

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