Revaluation of actual prices
Dear experts,
Generally we do price calculation in KSII, that is standard price calculation. After planning in kp06 and kp26 we do this calculation. For actual confirmations also ( in CO11N ), we use the same price ( that means standard price whatever we calculated in KSPI ). But i have some doubt regarding actual price calculation. When we do actual price calculation in KSII? when we do actual price revaluation in CON2? what is the use of doing this one? At what point of time we do revaluation? immediately after doing confirmations? Please help me.
Regards
Jay
Hi Jay Jay,
Pls go through the following example to understand Plan Activity Price and Actual Activity Price:
For Cost Center A, you do Cost Element Planning in KP06 (Ex. Rs.1,00,000). In KP26, you do the planned Activity Quantity (100 Hrs) - you will not update any price in KP26 screen usually . Now, to calculate the Planned Activity Price, you use the transaction code KSPI. The gives the result of Planned Activity Price of Rs.1000 per Hr.
Now, when you confirm the activities in Production Order in CO11n, the activity cost on the Production Order is updated with the Planned Price of Rs.1000. So, by the end of the period, if total actual hrs confirmed is 60 Hrs. ie., total cost loaded onto Production Orders is Rs.60,000.
Now, think of the actual cost that is booked to the Cost Center A (either through FI postings or distribution / assessment from other cost centers). If the actual cost that was posted to that cost center is only Rs.84,000. (Where as Planned Cost was Rs.1,00,000).
Now, when you run KSII transaction code for actual activity price calculation, the system will calculate the actual activity price by 84,000 / 60 Hrs =1,333.33.
This is the way how the system clearly shows and takes care of Under-Absorption / Over-Absorption in cost centers.
Then you run the transaction code MFN1 / CON2 to revaluate your Production Orders with the Actual Price of Activity.
After alll these steps only, you need to settle the Production Orders. If you settle Production Orders before revaluating with Actual Activity Price, then again there will be some loaded on to Production Orders, so, you have to do the settlement again.
Revert back for further explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri
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Cost Center Report : Revaluation at actual prices - credit but positive sign
Hi Experts,
Great day!
I just want to know the cause of the following unsual behavior of the system. The credit part of the cost center report is blank/zero and when you double-click the actual line items, it shows that the revaluation at actual prices are positive sign. By clicking an item further, the report will direct me to the CO document to investigate what happened. I found out that the sender - Activity revaluates the price for the receiver - Production Order.
I looked at the details of the sender - Activity and I found out that the debit/credit indicator is "C" but the sign is positive.
Your immediate help will be rewarded.
Thank you!
Here's the cost center report:
I am expecting the credit part to have a value right after I executed the "Actual Cost Splitting" at T-code: KSS2
Here's the unsual behavior:
Dr/Cr indicator is "C' but the value at Controlling Area Currency is in a positive sign.
Again, thank you!Hi Dryan
Revaluations are posted to CC after you do CON2 and not KSS2
1. Did you do CON2 and revaluate the Prod orders with actual activity price?
2. Ensure that revaluation is allowed in Plan Version 0 for FY 2014
3. Also, check your activity price calculated in KSII... Revalaution is a result of the actual activity Price (x) Activity Hrs confirmed in Prod order
4. Check the hrs confirmed in the Production order.. They should be +ve as well
Br. Ajay M -
Revaluation at actual prices: CON2
Dear experts,
while doing CON2 am getting the follwing error.
Revaluation at actual prices not possible in version 0, fiscal year 2008
Message no. KI760
Diagnosis
A revaluation for actual prices is not possible since this function is not available in version 0 in fiscal year 2008.
Procedure
Maintain the corresponding indicator in your version.
Please help me out this
Regards
rajOKEQ - click on the proper 'plan/actual' vesion, double click on 'setting of each fiscal year' - define a missing fiscal year if does not exisit. Double click on a defined fiscal year: check and change if necessary settings under 'price calculation' tab.
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Revaluation of Actual Prices error- CON1
Dear Experts,
Im getting below error when I execute CON1 ( Rev of Actual Prices)
Prior to the error , I maintained following settings for activity type and planned Prices.
Kindly let me know what addl config and actual data to be maintained for calculating actual prices
Currently I maintained Activity prices
In KL01 (14xx) - I maintained Activity Unit - Min
Cctr Categories - "1" Production
AType Category - "1"
Allocation Co Element - 95xxxx ( category -43)
In KP26
Cost Center - 111xxx
Activity Type - 14xx
Dis "2"
Unit "MIN"
Planned Variable costs "100" Shillings
Error
Revaluation at actual prices not possible in version 0, fiscal year 2011
Message no. KI760
Diagnosis
A revaluation for actual prices is not possible since this function is not available in version 0 in fiscal year 2011.
Procedure
Maintain the corresponding indicator in your version.
Advance Thanks
SanjaiDear Experts,
Can someone explain me the procedure of CON1,
For Ex: Actual Activity Price of Direct Labour is say $12 per hour and the planned activity prices is say $10 per hour.
Query
1. Where these actual activity price of $12 per diriect labour hour is entered ? can the system calculate automatic actual prices? if yes what is the procedure
2. When CON1 is executed ,what is the entry that is posted to Product cost collector and the cost center .
Kindly let me have your inputs
Thanks
Sanjai -
Costs in Cost Center are not zero after Revaluation at Actual Prices
I executed:
1. KSS2 - Splitting (I use a Cost Center ABC and all Cost Elements in the configuration)
2. KSII - Price Calculation
3. CON2 - Collective Processing
4. I see the report KSB1 of the Cost Center ABC, but Costs are not zero after revaluation. For example
Cost Element 61: $ 1000
Cost Element 62: $ 2000
Activity Allocation 98: $ -2800
Revaluation at actual price 98: $ -100
TOTAL: $ 100
Total must be $ 0.00
We work with thousands of product orders in a month. Is it possible that the problem was for rounding?
Thanks in advance for your help.
José LuisHi Ajay,
I checked OKEQ configuration, it's equal that you mentioned.
I have seen that Revaluation registers are using other Exchange Rate. In OB08 Exchange Rate P is 2.80 ( 1 USD --> 2.80 PEN)
How ever those revaluation registers are using ERate of 2.14 (1 USD --> 2.14 PEN)
Why revaluation registers use other Exchange Rate? Is this the problem that Cost Center is not zero?
Thanks in advance for your help.
José Luis -
CJN1 (Revaluation at actual prices not possible in version 0, fiscal 2008)
Hi All,
I got error message in tcode CJN1
Revaluation at actual prices not possible in version 0, fiscal year 2008
Message no. KI760
Diagnosis
A revaluation for actual prices is not possible since this function is not available in version 0 in fiscal year 2008.
Procedure
Maintain the corresponding indicator in your version.
What should i do?
Cheers,
NiesYou have to check in customizing Project System > Costs > Create CO version the correct settings for Fiscal Year 2008.
Ciao
Giorgio -
CJN2 Revaluation at Actual Prices
Hi,
I would like to know what CJN2 Revaluation at Actual Prices is being used for.
Thanks!
VivianDepending on the procedure use, the cost & actvities of the period are analysed separetaly ( periodically diff. price) as total values ( average price ) or as values cumulated up to the analysis period ( cumulated price) Based on on CO settings.
However, since the actual price calculation is not executed until the period-end closing, iteratively calculated actual price is not available when the actual activity posted. Therefore, the activities arenormally valuated with planned prices initially. After the actual price are claculated, you can make the relevant adjustment postings. in other workds revaluation at actual price for your projects.
CJN1 : is Revaluation at actual price : Project / WBs / Netwrok single processing
CJN2 : is Revaluation at actual price : Project / WBs / Netwrok mass processing
( for the use of CJN2 ) you have to define variant in CJ8V txn.
Weather to use the revaluation at actual price in SAP is normally decided by CO consultant.
Please go through this link. Opne link and click on revaluation at actual price.
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/23/52298b099b11d2add30000e8a6353a/frameset.htm
Regards
Nitin
Edited by: Nitin Patoliya on Dec 17, 2008 9:34 AM -
Activity Costs Revaluation Using Actual Price
Hi,
Since we can revaluate the activity costs at actual price in the product costing module itself using t.code MFN1, why SAP has provided another option to revaluate acticvity consumption at actual price in the material ledger multi level price determination?
What is the difference between the both? If i had used MFN1, do i still have to use the revaluation of activity costs provided in the material ledger?Hi,
However don't you think if the production order activity cost has been revaluated at actuals in the production order then during settlement it will carry the activity actual costs which will be shown in material ledger receipts category with the same actuals value for the activity costs.
So why should i be revaluating the activity costs again with actual activity price in material ledger once again? It sounds like a duplicate work to me under this scenario.... -
Tcode CON2: Revaluation of Actual price
Dear Experts
At the time of running the transaction code CON2, it shows that "Processing completed with no errors",.
But a list should be generated for the revaluated items, which is not getting generated
kindly, help me out
Regards
Sudhir PoddarHi Jay Jay,
Pls go through the following example to understand Plan Activity Price and Actual Activity Price:
For Cost Center A, you do Cost Element Planning in KP06 (Ex. Rs.1,00,000). In KP26, you do the planned Activity Quantity (100 Hrs) - you will not update any price in KP26 screen usually . Now, to calculate the Planned Activity Price, you use the transaction code KSPI. The gives the result of Planned Activity Price of Rs.1000 per Hr.
Now, when you confirm the activities in Production Order in CO11n, the activity cost on the Production Order is updated with the Planned Price of Rs.1000. So, by the end of the period, if total actual hrs confirmed is 60 Hrs. ie., total cost loaded onto Production Orders is Rs.60,000.
Now, think of the actual cost that is booked to the Cost Center A (either through FI postings or distribution / assessment from other cost centers). If the actual cost that was posted to that cost center is only Rs.84,000. (Where as Planned Cost was Rs.1,00,000).
Now, when you run KSII transaction code for actual activity price calculation, the system will calculate the actual activity price by 84,000 / 60 Hrs =1,333.33.
This is the way how the system clearly shows and takes care of Under-Absorption / Over-Absorption in cost centers.
Then you run the transaction code MFN1 / CON2 to revaluate your Production Orders with the Actual Price of Activity.
After alll these steps only, you need to settle the Production Orders. If you settle Production Orders before revaluating with Actual Activity Price, then again there will be some loaded on to Production Orders, so, you have to do the settlement again.
Revert back for further explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri -
Hi Experts,
I want to revalue multiple production orders but not all, that's why cannot run revaluation at plant level (CON2 or MFN2). Is there any program or transaction code to execute revaluation on multiple production orders?
RegardsI found the programs where multiple production orders or product cost collectors can be selected for revaluation:
RKAZMFN2
RKAZCON2 -
I find certain settings in the controlling area settings - settings for each fiscal year for planning and price calculation. My requirement is to calculate the actual price of the activities. What should be my settings in this area in order to calculate the actual price of my activities ?
Hi,
In Maintain Version in settings for Controlling folder in Settings for each Fiscal Year under Price calculation tab
Select 1 Revaluation in separate transaction (or) 2 Revaluation in original transaction for Revaluation at Actual Prices field. Details as bellow
Revaluation at Actual Prices
Indicator determining whether actual activities in a version are
valuated with actual prices and how the valuation is performed.
0 Not valuated
All actual activities valuated with the plan price
1 Revaluation in separate transaction
All actual activities valuated with the actual price; original
allocation unchanged
The differences between allocations valuated with plan and actual
prices are posted under a separate transaction (actual price
calculation).
2 Revaluation in original transaction
All actual activities revaluated with the actual price; original allocation changed
The differences between allocations valuated with actual and plan
prices are not shown with this option.
Edited by: Bhagiradha Pinnamareddy on Jun 4, 2009 2:35 PM
Edited by: Bhagiradha Pinnamareddy on Jun 4, 2009 2:36 PM -
Actual Price Calculation (KSII)
hi,
I am not able to get the actual prices for my production order.
I maintained certain settings for actual price calculation in OKEQ.
Does it is mandatory to run the MFN1 (Revaluation of actual prices) before the KSII.
SrinivasHi Sateesh,
Please find below the process for calculation of Actual Activity Prices:
1. Define Splitting structure, rules (method). I am sure you would have done this
2. Assign the splitting structure to Cost Centers. I hope you would be done this as well
3. Actual values (Costs and quantitative details) will get collected to cost centers in the following way:
- Quantities will get collected to Cost Centers once the confirmation of activities are done for the production order. Please make sure that "Record Quantity" check box is selected for the relevant secondary cost elements.
- Values will get collected from FI to the primary cost elements
you may check whether the values have been properly collected to the cost center using the cost center reports
4. Execute cost Split using - KSS2
5. Then calculate Actual activity unit price - KSII
6. Once the prices are successfully calculated, you can check the prices in KP26
7. after this process is completed then you can revaluate you production orders using the actual activity prices
I hope i made is clear.
Let me know if you need further details in this regard
Surya -
Revaluation of production orders at actual prices
Dear All,
My client want to revaluate production orders at actual prices, but we have only one costing version for plan and actual. Exactly I don't know how to revaluate production orders. As we have only one version, I want to change the activity rates with actual rates in KP26 in order to revaluate the production order. But even I change no revluation is taken place. Any customizing has to be done or what is the procedure to revaluate production orders. I changed the costing version settings to allow revaluation with own business transactions.
Please help me.
ramesh bUse transaction CON2 to revaluate the production order.
But before revaluation you have to run KSii to calculate the actual activity price. The price calculated here will be used for the revaluation.
I dont think there is need for any configuration if you have the plan activity prices set up and ready to go.Manually changing the price in KP26 will change th plan price but not revaluate it.
Keep us posted on the results
Happy to Help
Naveen -
Cost Center Variance and revaluation of activities at actual prices
Dear experts:
1. I'd like to know, given the complexity of setting up in customizing and entering data by users, as well as interpretting the results of variance calculations based on actual activity price calculations, I am wondering how many percentage (roughly) of SAP implementations actually use actual activity price calculation, splitting structures, and revaluation at actual activity prices at month-end.
2. Do you calculate actual activity prices for those consumed in production order via routing and revaluate to get actual production costs?
Those of you who have been on many implementations are requested to share their insights. This will help me assess how deeply I need to study AC412.
Your words of wisdom will be truly appreciated with reward of points.Hi Mohan
Usage of SAP functionalities like actual activity price calculations, splitting structures and revaluation depends on client. If the client is sure of its impact and is confident of ensuring posting correct data they use it. If the client has an environment where they cannot enforce or control activity confirmation corrections in plant, the costing guy does not go for these functionalities. There are two situations
1) Actual activity qty is entered and costing is done with plan prices, in which case the variance is purely quantity variance
2) Else plan qty is consdered as actuals and also the price, in which case no activity cost variance occurs
Or u can do following
The usage of these functionalities are purely dependent on client
Where accuracy of data is ensured u can use the above functionalities and yes we calculate actual activity prices and also revaluate the production orders at month end to get actual production costs
Pls assign points if the above helped ur cause -
Use an alternative Exchange Rate Type for activity actual price
Dear All,
I try to use an alternative Exchange Rate (not M) in controlling area version "0", I need to use a custom currency exchange rate like in planned price (here I create a new planned version with exchange rate "N").
I find same notes and it seems that standard Sap use only Exchange Rate "M" for actual price but I notice that for example in transaction KB21N (activity allocation) system shows in additional info exchange rate "N" (input in version "0").
Is not possibile to use other Exchange Rate for actual price, activity allocation, for confirmed activity in production order?
Controlling area has currency type 30 (group currency EUR), this company has MXN.
Thanks in advance for your support
DariaIn KB21N (activity allocation), system uses the exchange rate type you have maintained in controlling area version plan settings (transaction OKEQN). Activity allocation during the month always happen at the planned price maintained in KP26 at the exchange rate specified in plan version. During actual price calculation and revaluation during month end, it calculates actual activity price at (uses M rate to convert to controlling area currency) and revaluates consumption.
I think you cannot use other exchange rate, see the coding in include LKSPIF00 that is used in KSII where currency type is hard coded to M, if this is plan price calculation it's picking tka07-kurst.
Best Regards,
Venkata Ganesh Perumalla
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