Reversal of the subcontracting Challan

I have the following doubts:
1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
RG23A BED
RG23A SED
RG23A AED
RG23A NCD
is editable.
The header is like this
Balance for utilization          Modvat Debit
RG23A BED                  0.00
RG23A SED                  0.00
RG23A AED                  0.00                         Total
PLA   BED                  0.00                   0.00 BED                    0.00
PLA   SED                  0.00                   0.00 AED                    0.00
PLA   AED                  0.00                   0.00 SED                    0.00
RG23A NCD                  0.00                         NCCD                   0.00
Do I need to enter the values in the utilization tab to debit the modvat accounts or it will be debited as per the entries in "Posting Tab"
2) When does the report J1IFR shows the challan under "Recredit Due" ?
Please help for these 2 questions I have gone through the other posts related to this topic but unable to understand the transactions for reversal/ recredit

Hi,
1) Does the system automatically debits the modvat accounts in case the material is not sent by the subcontractor within 180 days. Do I need to enter the amounts in "Utilization Tab"? In the subcontracting challan the duties are shown as calculated on the posting data tab. In the utilization tab the entry for
If you send exciable material to subcontractor vendor and you not get your material in 180 days then what happen check following
1) why 180 days first because as per Indian law your excise invoice valid for 180 days to take credit after that you can not take credit
2) when 180 days complete ,then it consider as you sale your material to vendor and you have to create sale invoice along with excise invoice and send to vendor ,system will not do automatically.
3) while doing utilization you can not edit sales value or MM value also ,once outgoing excise invoice d yo subcontractor it will come automatically in utilization.
Regards
Kailas Ugale

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1.)We purchsed material from vendor A & send these material to vendor B directly for Job work ( for this we have seperate PO with subcontractor)
2.) In Material PO we tick SC vendor & give vendor B.
3.) Then made GR(with only part 1)
4.) MMBE report shows stock provide to vendor B.
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hi nitin
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Dear Friends,
Could any of you pls clarify the following process.
__Reversal & Recredit of subcontracting challan.__
Step1- Created sc po
Step2- Did 541 (mb1b)
Step3- Created sc challan (J1IF01)
Step4- Did the GR (Partial)
Step5- Partial reconciliatin of challan (J1IFQ)
When the rest of the finished products arrives , the challan exceeds 180 days.
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After I have to take recredit & complete the challan.
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You create subcontracting challan so that you do not pay any duties when you send the components to the vendor ( Subcontractor ). So whn you cancel or reconcile ther will be no accounting entry. Material should come back within 180 days of time frame.
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