Revert to Tiger URGENT

I have a MacBook that I recently installed Leopard into, but I need to revert back to Tiger, as this specific piece of hardware is not supposed to have Leopard installed. But I have a problem. There are some programs installed into the computer that need to be on it before I return it to someone. Is it possible to revert from Leopard to Tiger and still keep all these programs?
Thanks for help

schmete wrote:
I have a MacBook that I recently installed Leopard into, but I need to revert back to Tiger, as this specific piece of hardware is not supposed to have Leopard installed. But I have a problem. There are some programs installed into the computer that need to be on it before I return it to someone. Is it possible to revert from Leopard to Tiger and still keep all these programs?
Thanks for help
There is no way to simply downgrade to Tiger without a full backup of the original system.
You need to clone what you have, erase the HD and reinstall Tiger from the original disks and then copy or migrate the programs you need back from the clone.
There is no simple way.

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