RGB to CYMK Custom Profile to Generate Specific Black Ink Mix 60/40/40/100

It seems simple. I could swear I used to do this 15 years ago in Photoshop 4 (not CS4). This is just not going so well...
I am working in Photoshop CS5 (for Mac) and am having a hard time with a particular RGB to CMYK conversion. Once turned into CMYK, I want my darkest, richest black to be a 60C 40M 40Y 100K mix. But I cannot find a way to make this happen.
The image came to me as RGB with an sRGB profile. To convert to CMYK, I am using the US Web Coated SWOP v2 profile (I have tried others... just using this as an example), but I am not getting a black that is close to what I want.
RGB black converts into 75C 68M 67Y 90K. Even the "K" is not at a full 100%.
I cannot figure out how to force the black to be the numbers that I want. Can I do this? Can I create a custom, specialized profile without a spectrometer?
I know how to get to the custom profile dialog (by going to Color Settings, going to CMYK in the Working Spaces, clicking the pop-up and selecting "Custom CMYK" at the top. You get the screen called "Custom CMYK" with the Ink Options and Separation Options and the Grey Ramp). I just cannot find any thorough information in the User Manual that I downloaded from Adobe on what all of these controls do.
I have tried doing the conversion and then using levels to adjust the four channels closer to what I want, but this is damaging the quality of the shading in the image.
Any thoughts or places to start? Thanks in advance.
BTW, I could have chosen to go with a CMYK rich black of 25C 25M 25Y 100K if that makes things easier for some reason.

@Jeff:
One of the problems with this is that Photoshop forces you to make your custom profile based off of an existing profile. So I looked around and I found that when using the US Web Coated SWOP profile I mentioned, I would turn RGB black into this:
75C 68M 67Y 90K
Even the Black values aren't ramped up to full 100% there!
So I changed to Photoshop 4 CMYK default and I get:
62C 50M 49Y 100K
This is much better for me, and I do get the full Black on the key plate.
I may have to use this, as I doubt that I am going to be able to do what I want without a massive research project and a bunch of numerical hoo-doo-guru.
Any additional suggestions would be great!

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