RH7 Topics in ToCs report?
I have a project that has 11 different layouts: 2 go to
WebHelp, 9 go to Word, with variable content determined by both
ToCs and conditional build tags. The customer wants minor changes
to a few topics in the Word output. The quickest way is to edit the
individual Word docs and the Source files separately, because of
the time it takes to generate new output to in Word and then
reformat the content to make it look good.
Is there an easy way to find out, for a particular topic,
which ToC (or layout) it appears in? 114 topics x 11 ToC variants =
a lot of lists to cross-check!
Hi Philip.
I fear there is no easy solution to this. I seem to remember
you use RH7? I don't use that version and can't remember if it has
the ability to report over multiple layout. I don't think so.
What I would do is print off each of the 11 TOCs. You can do
this from the output files. Then use the Topic Properties to report
on the build tags. You can turn this on (and all the other options
off) via the options tab. You could use this report to identify
which tags are applied to specific topics and then mark the TOC
topic entry with a highlighter.
As I said, it's far from pretty but is a way of simplifying
things a little and reducing the risk of missing things.
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RH7 Topics in TOC don't display in Help
I'm using RH7; I create Web Help and printed documentation, both Word and pdf versions. All of my topics are in the TOC. However, two of the topics (which are in the TOC) don't appear in the generated Help or in either version of the printed documentation. If you jump to them from internal links, they show up, but they don't appear in the geneated Help's or printed documentation's TOC. ?!?
It's particularly a problem in the printed documentation, for when I want to create a user's manual from the file and only find out by accident that something is missing.
I've tried restarting the program and restarting the computer. :-) Windows xp professional.
Thanks for any tips!
LanceHi there
Do these topics simply not appear in the TOC to click on or is it more that you see them in the TOC, but clicking does not produce an action?
Do you have any Conditional Build Tags applied?
Cheers... Rick
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I need a detailed TOC report - including every topic in every folder from the Top Level Folder on down. There appears to be no difference between the Detailed view and the Overview when selecting the top level folder. Is there a way to create a complete TOC report in one step, without creating a separate report for each folder within the Top Level Folder?
My projects each have several folders and sub-folders. Nothing is nested more than 2 folders deep.
I am using RH8 and generating WebHelp.
I created these reports in RH7, but can't access the same level of detail in RH8. Any workarounds?
Thanks.
Helen (aka VetEditor)Hi there
While I may have more easily pointed the problem out, Peter actually offered the same in the first reply. It's just that he was rather generic about asking if the option was configured whle I presented the video that maybe drove the point home.
I guess what I read is true. I saw someone had added the following signature line to an E-Mail message and I loved it. The line read:
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a video is worth a thousand pictures!
Cheers... Rick
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Navigating between two topics in TOC
I use RoboHelp X5. I am creating a WebHelp project.
There are two topics and both are linked to the TOC. Topic1
in under book1 and topic2 is under book2.
There is a hyperlink from topic1 to topic2.
When I click on the hyperlink to navigate to topic2, book2
does not open in the TOC. It only opens topic2.
I want book2 to expand and highlight topic2
How do I enable this? Please help!Welcome to the forum.
You don't say whether or not you have AutoSyn enabled. That
is essential for what you want.
You also don't say which browser you are using. If it is
Firefox, it is a known problem. See Browsers on my site.
In Adobe RH7 it is fixed. At least it is on my machine and on
others that I have had some tests run on. However, there are a
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Breadcrumbs not compatible with multiple instances of a topic in TOC; any solution?
My master page places a breadcrumb on every page in my project.
When I add a topic to the TOC in two or more places, and I compile the project and click the second or the nth instance of said topic in the TOC, the TOC always "jumps" to the first instance. I cannot look at the second or the nth instance of that topic in the TOC. (Of course, the text is identical in all n places, but I want to TOC to stay in the branch that the user expects to be.) BUT IF I TAKE THE BREADCRUMB OUT of the master page, the multiple instances of a topic behave perfectly. If I cannot use breadcrumbs, I'll have a huge problem. Can this be fixed?Hi there
My guess is that the breadcrumbs are a red herring. Normally what causes the bizarre jumping around is the fact that the project has been configured to synchronize the TOC with the displayed topic.
One way past this is to never link more than once to a topic in the TOC. Of course, this causes an issue if you need more than one TOC entry point into the topic, no? So there are a couple of ways past it.
Use redirect pages that point to the desired topic. This way the Redirect page synchronizes with the TOC and you still see the topic.
Use an Inline Frame (IFRAME) to display the topic inside another page. Similar to the Redirect technique, but instead of loading another page, you present a page with a window that displays the topic.
Hopefully something here either helps directly or sparks a thought that does.
Cheers... Rick
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Switching on topics and TOC items.
Using Robohelp 9. Webhelp output.
I am creating the help file for a product with an add-on feature. If clients pay for the add-on, we turn on a switch in the code(SINGLE CODE BASE) and they get access to additional screens and data elements.
Is there anyway to mimic this in the help file? So, when we turn on the switch in the code, we somehow get access to additional content in the help. Topics and in the TOC.
Thanks,Hi there
Not trying to dissuade you from your approach here, but it's something to consider.
Several years ago I did some work for an employer that also offered software that worked much as you describe. The help system was antiquated and they were in the process of bringing it into the Windows platform from being DOS based. I described to the owner of the company that we could fashion the help so they only had help for what was installed. His response was eye opening for me.
His response?
NO, I want the customer to always have ALL the help as if they had purchased every module. By seeing the help and what is possible to achieve with other modules, perhaps it would entice them to later purchase the additional modules!
Something to consider. It certainly made me think differently about this aspect... Rick
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Topics in TOC are not being published in Word output
Windows 7
RoboHelp 9.0.2.271
Word 2010
I am having an on again/off again problem with RH not publishing all topics.
The topics are in the RH TOC and when I double-click them while in RH, they open for editing.
However, when I publish these same topics, they are not in the Word document--although they are in the web help.
Previous fixes include rebuilding the TOC (groan) or finding that rogue piece of code that causes topics not to print in Word or web help.
Question 1: Does anyone know why this is happening?
Question 2: Short of manually comparing RH TOCs against Word and web help (for 13 books), does anyone have any ideas on how to ensure all topics are included in the output?
Thanks in advance for any help.
MaryThere's a common misconception that what is in your TOC gets published.
The TOC is used the first time you generate a printed document. Thereafter, there is no update for good reason, you may want different topics. To update to what is in the TOC you need to click the Left arrow to clear everything from the right pane, then click the right arrow to put the new version of the TOC across to the right.
If you look at the current version of the TOC you will see some books on the left are not highlighted. That indicates there are topics in that book that are not on the right.
See Printed Documentation on my site.
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@petergrainge -
Use Topic in TOC more than once...
We have just purchased RoboHelp 6 for our Help System
generation as well as to begin developing online training courses.
I have a WebHelp File that contains 5 books - one book per
procedure. I have a topic that is applicable to two procedures.
Without having to make a copy of the topic, is it possible to set
up the TOC to use the topic in question more than once?
The problem arises when I am setting up the Browse Sequence.
I tried to set up the Browse Sequence using the Auto-create using
TOC...option, but the sequence appears to be in alphabetically
order. In fact, it is in no way, shape or form even close to the
TOC (as indicated in the Help - Topics in each browse sequence will
be in the same order as in the TOC)!!!
So, I tried to manually create the browse sequence. I used a
browse sequence to contain all topics, then I set up another browse
sequence to contain the duplicate topic. When I use the navigation
arrows to move through the toc, it will not advance to the second
browse sequnce.
Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
in advance.
LisaHi LNT1
The trick to all this is to never directly link from the TOC
to the desired topic. Let's assume the TOC should have a topic
appearing in two different places. In order to make this work, you
link from two different redirect pages.
Now if you generate WebHelp, I see where there could be an
issue, because the browse sequence can only link from one topic to
another. In other words, a topic can only have a single link to and
a single link from it. So in this case, the redirect trick would
fail. However, another trick comes to mind that may work. Instead
of a Redirect page, you could have two different pages that instead
of redirecting, contained an Inline Frame (IFRAME) that simply
displayed the contents of the desired page. Basically, the pages
containing the IFRAME would link properly and provide the desired
effect.
For more on IFRAMEs, download my Tips and Tricks file and
scan it for how to create IFRAMES.
Cheers... Rick -
Missing topics in TOC and index
I am using Robohelp 6.
When using robohelp for Word with the primary output to html
help several topics do not show up in the TOC nor the index. They
appear correctly when I generate winhelp2000.
Is there some special setting I need to make? The other
topics seem to handled correctly and display correctly.
Thanks, JimHi Jim
Your situation is reflective of the reason you may wish to
consider changing over to RoboHelp HTML for creating output that is
HTML based. As time goes on, more and more folks are shifting away
from that product in favor of RoboHelp HTML. As a result, we are
losing collective knowledge about how to coax it to work for the
HTML formats.
Cheers... Rick -
When I generate webhelp the TOC comes out fine. When I
generate either a word or .pdf file the first two topics/books are
missing. They are listed in the Chapter Layout. The headings are
the same as the other topics that are printing in the TOC. Any
suggestions?Just noodling here a little . . .
1. Which heading style(s) are you using for topic titles? Are
they consistently applied for all topics, looking at the html view?
Are there any stray spaces or html code immediately before the
<begin heading> tags?
2. Are you generating print doc with the project's style
mapping dot, or some other?
3. Did you select "Maintain HTML heading levels"?
In points 2 and 3, I don't know whether these settings (or
which option) may be causing the problem; just suggesting that you
change one at a time to test print output.
Harvey -
RH7 Topics appearing in another language
Another completley random, strange bug. I have a few topics in my web help project (same project having the TOC inssue; http://forums.adobe.com/message/3891122#3891122, as it happens) which are appearing either blank or in Chinese. !
I'm wondering... the svn (tortoise) system, where I check in my files to build to the product, is accessed by people all over the place, including Taiwan and China. Could their local access (Chinese keyboards I assume) be glitching the files somehow? I did just verify the project language is set to English; the css doesn't talk about language per say, just specifiying fonts like Verdana. Past that, I can't begin to guess what might be happening.
And of course we need to release this in the next week.
Thanks O helpful forum watchers!
LanceAlso check:
Settings>General>International>Language/Region Format -
Unable to manually add topics to TOC in RoboHelp 11 when working with RoboSource Control 3.1
Hello,
I am working on RoboHelp11 and using RoboSource Control 3.1. I am facing an issue while making an attempt to manually add new topics to the TOC (drag and drop), the error alert ' 'xxxxxx.hhc cannot be multiply Checked out' and further the alert 'The files in the list below could not be checked out from Version Control. Exclusive access to these files is required to execute the selected action.' appears. Note that the said project file is checked out only by me and no else in the team has checked it out from source control..
Can someone provide guidance on how to resolve this issue.I am having this same problem.
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Drill down to specific topic on TOC?
Is it possible to have the Navigator display a specific topic when that topic is displayed via showTopic? In other words, I have default to docking set to true, and I call up a specific topic via showTopic. I don't want just my generic TOC displayed; I want the tree drilled down to the specific topic on the TOC.
Can I do this?
ChrisHi Chris,
The table of contents is automatically kept in sync with the active topic window. In docked mode, if you call showTopic(), in theory the table of contents should automatically expand to the displayed topic (assuming there is a table of contents item that maps to the same topic-id or URL). Is this not what you are seeing?
Jeffrey Stephenson
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HI,
I have several merged helpsets. How can I collapse all topics programmaticly while initializing the JavaHelp system in my application.
TIA
MarioThere's a common misconception that what is in your TOC gets published.
The TOC is used the first time you generate a printed document. Thereafter, there is no update for good reason, you may want different topics. To update to what is in the TOC you need to click the Left arrow to clear everything from the right pane, then click the right arrow to put the new version of the TOC across to the right.
If you look at the current version of the TOC you will see some books on the left are not highlighted. That indicates there are topics in that book that are not on the right.
See Printed Documentation on my site.
See www.grainge.org for RoboHelp and Authoring tips
@petergrainge -
RH7 - Topic split (on H1 & H2) ignored after DOC Import
On import of a Word Doc in RH7 - after selecting a new topic on Heading 1 and Heading 2, document imports into RH into a table and as a single file. It was supposed to create new topics for each Heading 1&2. Looking in HTML view of the document, there is a <div class > that I can delete to get rid of the table, but then i still have to create the topics by hand.
I had created a lot of CHMs before this / then RH just started messing up .... including the projects that used to work.Often the answer to this problem is that someone has created a style called Heading nn but it is not a true Heading style as Word understands it. That should have been overcome by changing the styles to Heading 3 as that is recognised.
Any reason you cannot apply Heading 1?
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