RMBP 13" Early 2015 vs Late 2013 Fan Noise

I've noticed the new rMBP 13" early 2015 is much louder than the late 2013 model under load, these are the measurements I got from both laptops running the Geekbench 3 Stress Test, I've also noticed that Idle the fan speed on the 2015 is 0 rpm and on the 2013 is 1,286 rpm. At normal usage both laptops are practically silent.
2015
Fan: 5,966 rpm
Temp: 64C
Sound: 46 dBA
Idle Fans: 0 rpm
2014
Fan: 4,677 rpm
Temp: 73C
Sound: 38 dBA
Idle Fans:
I am using iStat 5.1 to measure Temp and Fan speed, and an external Sound Level Meter for the Sound. Please could you check yours and share the measurements, thanks

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Hi guys, see the Etrecheck report below. My 13' Macbook pro (early 2011) has been very slow for the last few months, the fan makes a weird blowing noise (several fellow students have looked around what the **** that noise was when it started doing it), and recently started freezing when opening iTunes, OpenOffice and even Firefox.
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I'm adding a screenshot below to see the values;

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