Roaming network with AirPort Extreme and Netgear R6300

Hi there everyone
I need to know if I can make a roaming network with my apple AirPort Extreme as the base station and then I want to use an Ethernet cable to connect to a Netgear R6300 which will be located at the other end of my house where th connection is poor via wireless.
So is this possible with this set up and if so how do I go about configuring each router to make it work?
Will I need to make both SSIDs the same so I wan wander through the house and stay connected to the same network?

Do not even bother to link wirelessly.. Apple do not allow it.. nor probably does the netgear.. there is no proper standard to wireless link routers.. it is a case where everyone does what is right in their own eyes.
Roaming is the best anyway..
SSID = Wireless Name must be the same.. and use short, no spaces and pure alphanumeric names.. not apple type. You can set a different name for 5ghz.. imho that is the best idea.. but up to you .. roaming and band swapping at the same time leads to chaos.
WPA2 Personal = WPA2 AES security and is the only standard that should be used now..
Password for wireless the same. 10-20 character mix upper and lower case + numbers.. keep it pure alphanumeric.
And now the tricky one.. channels.. there is only one difference between the different wireless stations and that is channels. You can leave everything at auto.. but if it leads to trouble fix them on both 2.4ghz and 5ghz.
Use non-overlapping .. see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels
Which show the 2.4ghz channels very clearly.. you will need to work your way around the 5ghz a bit because it differs so much region to region.

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This is the correct.
and then connect the airport express in a line to have wifi in all rooms of the mansion.
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But, you cannot "extend" the signal a second or third time. Each AirPort Express must be located so that it connects directly to the AirPort Extreme. In other words, each AirPort Express must be located about the same distance from the AirPort Extreme.
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I wanted to add this.. I followed the guide here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260 to extend using ethernet, and the above is the result.
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So, can I expand my signal, just adding more airport express?
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