RoboHelp 8 Visual Source Safe 8 - cannot upgrade projects to 8

We upgraded from Robohelp 7 to 8 on Friday. This morning when we attempted to upgrade our projects connected to Visual SourceSafe, some of the projects received the following error:
We verified in VSS that all files (including subfolders) were checked in. Initially we did have some files checked out, but checked those in and still received the error message. It seems that we are stuck receiving this message and cannot get past. We have checked out / in the entire folder to make sure all files are available.
Thank you,
Jennifer

Converting a project while it is still hooked up to VSS seems unnecessarily difficult and dangerous. Is it required?
I would take a copy of the RH7 project files out of source control, upgrade them to RH8, and check them in as an entirely new set of VSS8 files.
With, of course, plenty of backups along the way...

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帖子被longzhi在04-03-2006 07:36 AM时编辑过了
Too much works make Longzhi a Tom.
Thanks god, the weekend is coming.
And my lovers are always here with me.
Anything better? ^_^
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hi, smercurio…
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帖子被longzhi在04-03-2006 08:39 PM时编辑过了
Too much works make Longzhi a Tom.
Thanks god, the weekend is coming.
And my lovers are always here with me.
Anything better? ^_^
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