Robohelp 9 question on referring to javascripts

Hello. I am working with Robohelp 9. I am working with a group in India that incorporates the Robohelp files that I have generated into their product's online help .They are telling me that they have to hand edit output files from the SSL! folder to add a location for the javascripts they are using (i.e. whver.js). The output for my topic files contain this reference: <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="whver.js"></script>. They want me to edit these this to add this to the path: /...abcdirectory/ after src=".
I have moved the files to abcdirectory, but the output files do not generate with this path. It is impractical to edit output files. Is there another way in Robohelp to indicate the location of the .js files so that the output files contain the correct path?
Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving.

I'm confused. You said you were having to hand edit them, presumably to meet their requirements. My point was to decline to do this as there is no need. They are asking you to make a change they are making when there is no need to make the change in the first place.
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Error: unterminated string literal
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can you post all of your source code for the .jsp and then try running the page and once it fails do a View Source and then paste in all the generated code so that we can look at that as well.
i'm not totally positive but i have a pretty good feeling what is going wrong. the struts optionsCollection tag will render a bunch of <option> elements but print a newline after each one, which means you probably end up with something like
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correct? if so, that is not valid javascript.
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That will not solve the problem. Whatever you do you have to move it locally and hope there is no corruption. I recommend you zip the project and move it for two reasons.
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My next guess that I have not tested is if the issue happens in Internet Explorer as opposed to Firefox. I have seen the problem in Firefox on Windows and Firefox on Ubuntu.
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Since this question is related to JavaScript running within the Form and not the connection between the form and Web Dynpro - it really belongs in the Interactive Forms by Adobe Forum.

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