RoboHelp for Word - Breadcrumb Links in .CHM?

From what I've read, 8.0 supports breadcrumbs in .CHM files but I can't find any reference to it in RoboHelp for Word. If I create a new blank project in RoboHelp for HTML and go to generate the .CHM, I get the breadcrumb option and it works correctly.
Am I looking in the wrong place or are breadcrumb links not supported for .CHM in RoboHelp for Word version 8.0?
(Because I know it will be suggested - no, unfortunately I can't just import my documents into RoboHelp for HTML and maintain the project there.)
Thanks!

Hi there
It would appear that you have your answer. If you choose to create CHM from Word, don't expect to see an option for Breadcrumbs in the CHM file.
Sorry you can't maintain things in the proper tool. I feel for you. Using Word to create and manipulate HTML content is sort of like trying to mix oil and water. You find yourself often frustrated with issue after issue.
Cheers... Rick
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