Robohelp is ignoring my Framemaker paragraph style

Robohelp is ignoring my Framemaker numberlist formatting and does not provide any kind of message mentioning an unsupported style.
My numbered list appears as the screen shot below in the FrameMaker file
1. View vCenter Server, ESX host, and virtual machine versions in the inventory.
When i bring the FM file into Robohelp the numbered list looks like this
1.View vCenter Server, ESX host, and virtual machine versions in the inventory.
is there a way to maintain the style at the time of conversion?

In that case you have to tweak the css to format the resulting content in RH. You could also play with trying out the other settings to see what results you get or create a numbered list style in RH that looks the way you want and use the Conversion Settings to map your FM paragraph format to the RH style.

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Convert FrameMaker paragraph formats to RoboHelp styles

This question was posted in response to the following article: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/robohelp/robohtml/WS12199CA1-968E-4a9b-9927-ED490DF6B87E.html

Thank you Jeff for a specific reply.
First, let me respond to, "Nobody else seems to be having any issue with this."
In the TechComm Central blog post, "Troubleshooting FrameMaker Content Conversion in RoboHelp Part 1," Mayank Agrawal, the author, says, "Many times, I hear from users that it appears as if Robohelp is not applying FrameMaker conversion settings or eating up the imported .isf settings." So, what we are seeing is not unique to us. However, we follow Mayank's steps, and the FrameMaker paragraph styles are still getting lost somewhere.
Second, we have the standard FrameMaker paragraph styles. For example, this is the content we see in WebHelp that has been published from RoboHelp, along with the FrameMaker paragraph style enclosed in square brackets. (Nothing is indented in WebHelp, but everyone looks fine in FrameMaker.)
1. This is the first step. [FM: List Number 1]
This is an indent that is not indented. [FM: Indent]
2. This is the second step. [FM: List Number +]
o This is a bullet that is supposed to be indented a bit. [FM: Bullet 1]
o This is another bullet that is supposed to be indented. [FM: Bullet 1]
3. This is the third step. [FM: List Number +]
a) This is an alpha list that is supposed to be indented. [FM: List Alpha 1]
b) This is another alpha list that is supposed to be indented. [FM: List Alpha +]
o This is supposed to be a bullet 2 indented even more. [FM: Bullet 2]
o This is another bullet 2 that is supposed to be indented,
and the text wrap for all styles in this example comes to the left margin. [FM: Bullet 2]
This is supposed to be a 3rd level indent. [FM: Indent 3]
Again, everything looks great in FrameMaker. However, FrameMaker does not appear to be automatically handing off ANY paragraph style formatting information to RoboHelp. And when we attempt to manually set the styles in the ISF file, the WebHelp generated from RoboHelp does not appear to retain the manually-set formats.

Trouble Linking TOC Paragraph Styles from a Word 2010 Document to a RoboHelp HTML Project

I apologize if this question has been answered elsewhere. I did my best to search the forums and the web, but I haven't seen anything that helps resolve the issue I'm having yet. I am new to RoboHelp 9. I am using Word 2010 and Windows 7.
I am working on creating a WebHelp that is linked to a Word 2010 document. For the most part, I have had no trouble with the linked document, but something seems to be wrong with the styles and formatting for the TOC paragraph styles that I created in the Word document: the formatting does not apply to the topics in RoboHelp. All of the other paragraph styles (Heading 1-4, Body Text, etc.) are working perfectly. The problem seems to apply ony to text using the paragraph styles TOC 1-4.
The TOC in the Word document looks like this:
The topic containing that TOC in the RoboHelp project looks like this:
In the Word document, the entries for 1. Introduction, 2. Punctuation, and 3. Numbers are all all set to the paragraph style TOC 1. The entries for Purpose, Audiance and Applicability, Scope and Other References, etc. are all set to the paragraph style TOC 2. Both of these paragraph styles contain formatting for font and indentations, and they also appear in the RoboHelp project's .CSS file as WD_TOC 1 and WD_TOC 2.
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I could resolve the issue by highlighting the text I'd like to apply the style to and applying the appropriate style using the Styles and Formatting pod, but then every time I update the Word document, the text would revert.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Please let me know if anything is unclear or if I need to provide additional information.
Thank you!
Rachel

Thanks for your response, Peter. I do understand that what I'm trying to do is not standard--and probably not best practice for WebHelp. I am following instructions to make the WebHelp function like the website we are using as a model, which features a TOC for each chapter as a separate page. So I understand that what I'm doing is essentially pounding a square peg into a round hole, but it seems like it should work as long as RoboHelp can pick up the right paragraph styles.
I can eliminate the page numbers pretty easily by choosing to use hyperlinks instead of page numbers in web output (this is an option in Word 2010), but the Hyperlink style is a character style that overlays the paragraph styles TOC 1, TOC 2, etc and suppresses page numbers. While the Hyperlink character style translates with no problem to RoboHelp, those underlying paragraph styles are still not linking up quite right. For the sake of trying to simplify things and address the real problem, I temporarily removed the hyperlinks (thereby including the page numbers) in order to straighten things out. Thank you for pointing out the apparent oversight, though!
What's confusing about the problem is that WD_TOC 1 and WD_TOC 2 are already defined--they just aren't being applied. I can apply them manually, but as soon as I do, the status indicator in the Project Manager pod changes to the yellow triangle with an exclamation point (), indicating that the project is out of sync. As soon as I update the topics, those TOCs revert to having no paragraph styles at all. Does that make sense?
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Framemaker 8 problem with paragraph styles

Hi,
I manage a documentation (one file) including paragraph styles organized like that :
-- Chapter
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When a create a PDF file from my document, including bookmarks, I'm encountering the following problem :
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|---- chapter 4
|---- sub chapter 4
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source, then synchronize the paragraph styles. This will change ALL styles
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risky, especially if any styles are based on or [Basic
Paragraph] itself is used in one of the files and it isn't already defined
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choose Load Styles, then select the style you want to load, and how to
handle a conflict (Use Incoming), which will give you more control over what
happens.
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jon

[Jongware] wrote:
Did you try Scott's advice: set the Space After of that last paragraph to 20 inch?
When I tried this, it seemed to work, but I decided against suggesting it because I was also playing with some other settings that affected subsequent paragraphs, and I wasn't sure if the combination was making it appear to work. Growing up in FrameMaker, I learned that space before a paragraph is ignored at top of frame/column/page, and space after a paragraph is ignored at bottom of frame/column/page.
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HTH
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Peter
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actually i am doing a project in which Frame maker document is transformed into indesign document. in frame maker this is possiable, but in indesign i cannot give different paragraph style in the same line of the document.
Is there any way to do this ????

YaneshTyagi wrote:
i want to give different paragraph style in the same line in an indesign document. bt when i tried it, it is coming in two different line.
actually i am doing a project in which Frame maker document is transformed into indesign document. in frame maker this is possiable, but in indesign i cannot give different paragraph style in the same line of the document.
Is there any way to do this ????
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There are several complicated manual methods of simulating these FrameMaker properties in InDesign.
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You can add your vote for InDesign's developers to include these FrameMaker features, and any others you'd like to see, here: wish.
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Peter
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To my surprise,
Copy Special >
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8.0p277.
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At first, I thought it might be possible to do this via a nested character style. Nope. Back in FrameMaker, I used to do this manually, whenever I wanted extra space. My trainers would add paragraph tags (ugh).
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Kenneth C. Benson wrote:
Maybe I'm really missing your meaning here. When I override a style setting to get more space below, I add space below the *paragraph*. I don't adjust anything about the last line. This is no different in Framemaker. In Framemaker, you can add space above or below a paragraph, either as part of a style (what FM calls a "format") or as a style override. You don't "adjust the last line of a paragraph" in either program.
There's one important difference between FrameMaker's paragraph
spacing and most other DTP or WP tools: Space between FM paragraphs is
NOT ADDITIVE. Space below a paragraph is not added to space above the
following paragraph. In FM, the larger space wins. (I think Ventura
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larger-one-wins.)
If the issue is to make inter-paragraph spacing work non-additively
like FM, please file a feature request for this as an option, at:
www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
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In an old archived topic, someone wrote:
quote:
In DWMX, you could select text in the design view and in the
"HTML Styles" window (which no longer exists in MX 2004) all you
had to do was click "Clear Selection Style" and all HTML formatting
(paragraph tags, font faces, colours, bold, italics etc) would be
removed. This was marvellous for reformatting tag
based text with CSS. MX 2004 claims to be a CSS machine, but it
seems to lack this very important feature which helps to re-inforce
the use of CSS over font tags.
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=189&threadid=714513&arc tab=arc
I absolutely agree, and none of the alternative methods
people suggested in that thread matched this lost feature for speed
and ease of use.
I've not seen a replacement for these commands in Dreamweaver
8 either (although I've often wished for one). Does anyone know of
a hidden feature that exists in version 8 for removing all the HTML
formatting in one fell swoop?

I count 4 steps.
1. Copy the entire line
2. Paste into notepad
3. Copy the entire line
4. Paste into DW
That does it nicely no matter how much presentational markup
there is.
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news:[email protected]...
>
quote:
I think what the O/P is wanting is a quick and easy method to
remove
> all of
> those presentational tags.
>
> Thanks Gary ? spot on! I'll use the term 'presentational
markup' rather
> than
> 'HTML styles' from now on. (Excuse my ignorance, but
what's an 'OP'?
> Should I
> like being called such a thing? :)
>
>
quote:
Murray: ? but you just cannot create predefined "HTML STYLES"
any
> longer.
> It's no great loss....
>
> Agreed! Okay, we've established that no one's lamenting
the loss of 'HTML
> styles' in the sense of a style sheet that stores HTML
presentational
> markup.
>
>
quote:
And if "HTML STYLES" were not used in the first place, then
even having
> that feature available now wouldn't help OP, if your
interpretation is
> correct.
>
> Perhaps you are misinterpreting what those commands did.
'Clear Paragraph
> Style' was the equivalent of applying a predefined 'HTML
style' with no
> presentational markup ? making it as far as I know, the
quickest, easiest
> way
> to strip all presentational markup out of your HTML
(irrespective of
> whether
> the markup originated through the use of 'HTML styles').
This could have
> very
> easily been replaced by a stand-alone command.
>
>
quote:
There are certainly quick and easy ways to remove many of
them.
> Okay then, here's the test. How many steps does it take
you to clean up
> the
> following paragraph?
>
> The
> quick
brown fox
jumps over the
 color="#FF0000">lazy
dog
>
> I count 10 steps if you select the entire paragraph and
use nothing but
> the
> Properties panel and/or Text menu. Perhaps you can beat
my attempt. If I
> use
> the 'Clean Up HTML' command, it takes me about 20
seconds to check for and
> type
> in all the individual tags I want removed, then I still
have to manually
> fix
> the alignment. Do you know of a quicker, easier way?
>

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