Robohelp output: XHTML?

Hi,
I have a customer that needs 3 outputs of a usual manual:
chm, webpages in XHTML and a paper manual.
I need to know if RH6 does direct output into XHTML. If it
doesn't, then I'll have to write the manual in Word and then create
xhtml files separately in Word, then arrange these topics in
Robohelp to get the chm.
Is there a better way?
Cheers

This is invalid XHTML: <script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" title="WebHelpSplitCss">
The script element has no title attribute:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-xhtml2-20020805/mod-scripting.html#sec_18.2.
This causes problems when importing into FrameMaker:
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Large spaces in robohelp output

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I've created a Framemaker doc using the DITA Open Toolkit and linked it to Robohelp to produce Webhelp. I use Adobe Tech Comms Suite v2 by the way.
When publishing in Robohelp though the spacing between words is really wide, about double or triple the norm. I've looked at the paragragh designer in Frame and cant see anything obviously wrong and the stylesheets in Robohelp arent showing anything odd either. Anyone got any ideas where I should be looking?
Help apprecicated - I've been looking into this on and off for a couple of weeks now.
Nick

I had this as well; I changed the word spacing in the CSS to 0 em for all
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We have a client that is interested in making their RoboHelp
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We reviewed the .Net API, however that is for integrating
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Do you have any clients that are doing this and if so what is
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Unfortunatly, it's not that easy. Since the files are raw
HTML, they don't go through the same processing as the standard
.net pages and thus buy pass any application security that is built
into .NET applications. If the RoboHelp files could be exported to
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Hello all,
I noticed a problem in the FrameMaker to Robohelp conversion output. I am using TCS, Framemaker project linked to Robohelp. Outputs are EPUB and Webhelp. My issue exists in both EPUB and Webhelp output.
Some of my source images are in EPS and in AI format, as these formats print nicely in PDF. Some of the illustrations include dashed lines. When I convert the projects, in the Robohelp output, the dashed lines are replaced by solid lines. I contacted support and their response is: Ai, SVG and EPS file format is not supported with Robohelp
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I can convert these images to JPG or PNG, but such text based images don't look good in PDF in these formats. (the text is not sharp)
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Couple of things – in the Conversion Settings screen are you having RH use Distiller to process the images? If you aren’t try that & see what the result is like. If you are, turn it off & see what happens. Your other alternative is to generate PDFs of the images and include them by reference in the FM source (conditionalized of course so that they only end up in your RH output) & conditionalize your original images for PDF output only.

How do I get change bars to appear in Robohelp output?

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What is the Preferred RoboHelp Output?

Hi All,
My developer and I have determined that our desktop application cannot use Microsoft HTML Help output since .CHM files cannot be accessed from the network. Therefore, we're struggling to determine if we should use WebHelp or WebHelp Pro instead?
I have searched the robohelp HELP and these forums, but do not see my specific quandry discussed anywhere.
As well, what's Adobe AIR? It seems that this is a free utility, yes? And with WebHelp Pro, it says we need RoboHelp Server... is that an additional cost?!!? We seem to be able to use WebHelp Pro without "Robohelp Server" - so far.
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- Karen

Hi Karen
CHM will work on a network drive if you modify the Windows registry to mark the location as being safe. This would need to occur in the individual registry for each PC accessing th CHM. So it's likely not optimal.
Certainly you can go the WebHelp Pro route, but if this help system is intended to be installed on server environments at client locations, you would need to purchase a RoboHelp Server license for each client you install on. I'm sure that would make Adobe very happy, as you would need to purchase RoboHelp Server licenses at $2,000 or so each. Not only that, but their IT staff will love you as well because they would then be tasked with installing, configuring and maintaining a new server setup. But, it's an option if you want to go there.
Adobe is hedging their bets a bit on AIRHelp. The whole AIR technology is new on the scene. There is an AIR runtime that each user would need to install as a first step. Then you would need to package your output as AIR and each user would have to install the help on their machines in much the same way as they install applications.
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FTP site and RoboHelp output

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Is it possible to use an FTP site to distribute a RoboHelp
HTML output (.chm) and have all links work?

Hi Gastard23 and welcome to our community
As long as the .CHM is being saved locally, things should
work. But you may find that you still need the info in
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Searches in RoboHelp output

I am trying to figure out how to do AND searches from the RH7
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RoboHelp Output

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Soooo, does anyone have any suggestions as to what to use as the primary layout? Are there any possilbe "hidden" ways to make the .chm file work on a network? What about Robo Server?

Hi Rick,
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What is your output type? To my knowledge, if you are using basic WebHelp, the server software should not matter. I've seen some isssues reported with FlashHelp, where navigation doesn't show if you are running an IIS server. But this would be the first I've ever heard of WebHelp not being served. (if that's your output)
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1. Why does the bullet format get converted as an n character? How do you work around this?
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3. Why do the fonts in the epub file appear different from the help files or Frame files?
Shuba

Hi Shuba,
1. Why does the bullet format get converted as an n character? How do you work around this?
I'm guessing you have a special bullet character format in FrameMaker. You can try changing that to a standard bullet and it should resolve.
Better, though, convert the bullet paragraph to an HTML list in the RH conversion.
2. Why do the table of contents and title page get added to the end of the epub book?
Good q, I've had that issue as well. No solution thus far.
3. Why do the fonts in the epub file appear different from the help files or Frame files?
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Glossary from FrameMaker not appearing in RoboHelp output

We are using FrameMaker 10 and RoboHelp 9.
We have user guides in FrameMaker that we want to publish to WebHelp from within FrameMaker. The user guides in FrameMaker all have a glossary in its own chapter at the end of the guide.
In FrameMaker, with the user guide book file open/selected, we select File > Publish.
The Publish Settings window appears.
We select WebHelp, and specify an ISF file that breaks chapters down into individual HTML files by heading level, then click Publish.
RoboHelp opens and publishes the content from the user guide to WebHelp, then RoboHelp closes.
We navigate to the folder that contains the WebHelp files, and launch it.
There is a glossary node at the bottom of the TOC in the WebHelp, but it is always empty.
Can someone please explain how to get RoboHelp to include the glossary content from the Glossary chapter in the user guide when it publishes from FrameMaker to WebHelp? We were hoping that the handoff from FM to RH was seamless, but apparently it is not.
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Tim

Hi Tim –
I am using a different process for single-sourcing our documentation in the TCS – FrameMaker 10 and Robohelp 9. I am creating the files in FrameMaker as book files, with TOCs, Glossaries, and Indexes. I am also conditionalizing some text for online and some for print. However, my workflow, based on a lot of research and watching tutorials, is to link the FrameMaker files in a RH9 project. Then, I use Robohelp to apply the .isf file settings, a FrameMaker template to use for conversion of things like cross-reference formats, a RH master page for the online help, the customized Webhelp skin I want to use, and to do any other small tweaks as necessary since the conversion process is about 90% seamless but not perfect.
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2.       On the Contents tab of the “FrameMaker Document Settings” panel, I check all 3 boxes to “convert FrameMaker” TOC, Glossary, and Index files. For the TOC, I navigate to the FrameMaker TOC file of my book.
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6.       I then have the option to right-click and delete the old (empty) ones (for simplicity’s sake). Everything is then right with my help files.
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Publishing RoboHelp output to MOSS

I'd like to develop policies and procedures with RoboHelp HTML 7.
Presently, the plan is to author these documents in RH, generate the PDF files and upload the PDF files into a MOSS library.
Ideally, I'd rather publish in WebHelp (or FlashHelp) and upload into MOSS. Is this realistic?
Thank you.

Hi Mark
I have a request if you are able.
Can you perhaps chat with those involved and see if you are able to derive any fairly generic instructions for doing this? It seems to surface from time to time and it would be ever helpful if we had something we could steer users to in order to provide some form of assistance.
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RoboHelp V8 Are working files the output files?

I have RH V4 and there are 2 version of the file the html pages. The one I edit and then the files created for the output. I have to save both versions to multiple places and I was wondering if they are now just one file/version.
Also, I am trying to convince my company on the benefits of spending $500 to upgrade, any compelling reasons?
I like that I it can have multiple projects. But that doesn't merit $500 in their book.

Welcome to our community
I'm assuming you mean to say that you have RoboHelp X4. Version 4 is really REALLY old!
Think of your RoboHelp files as you might think of ingredients in the kitchen. You have eggs, flour, milk and whatnot. These are the source ingredients. They are very much like your RoboHelp source files. You mix these ingredients and bake them to create OUTPUT, such as Chocolate Chip cookies, Bran Muffins or whatever. The cookies and muffins are very much like your RoboHelp OUTPUT files.
All versions of RoboHelp I've ever seen are able to have multiple projects. Whether you think it's worth the upgrade price is for only you to decide. If you are happy with the way RoboHelp works and it suits you. Then hold off. But there are many factors to consider.
Does the new version offer something you might find useful and save lots of time? If so, upgrading is a no brainer.
Are you finding that the output you create has suddenly began to have issues? Might be time to upgrade. For example, if you are creating WebHelp output and suddenly you see lots of folks that are all using the new Google Chrome browser, the older version of WebHelp doesn't know about Chrome. So the WebHelp may have issues. In that case you might strongly consider upgrading so your output handles newer browsers.
Cheers... Rick
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Escaping tag output for use in XHTML document?

I'm converting a JSP page from HTML to XHTML, and have run across a problem with tags outputting XHTML-invalid characters (&'s and <'s). For example:
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postResult returns a string with those invalid characters, and so far I've been unable to figure out how to work around that. Any ideas?

Our print publications are created in InDesign CS5 for Mac then the text is exported to RTF files then sent to an outside company to be converted to our XML specifications for use by our website developers. I would like to create a workflow in which our XML tags are included in the InDesign layouts and then export the XML from the layouts.
Some more detail about what kind of formatting is necessary might be helpful.
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Well, if you want to export the whole document, it's the only reasonable approach.
We use a workflow system such that each story is a seperate InCopy document, stored in ICML format (Basically a subset of IDML). Our web automation uses XSLT to convert each story into HTML for use on our web site; it also matches it up with external metadata so it knows what is a headline and what is not, etc.. It is not exactly hassle free, and every once in a while someone uses a new InDesign feature that breaks things (e.g., our XSLT has no support for paragraph numbering, so numbered paragraphs show up without their numbers).
You could do the same thing with with IDML, you'd just have to pick out each story, but that's small potatoes compared to all the XSL work you're going to have to do.
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