Rounding differences - translation in BCS to thousands
Hello everybody,
We translate the figures from Local currency (ILS) to thousands Local currency (we created new currency code u2013TILS). We maintained conversion factor of 1:1000 and translation rate 1:1. The client insist the figures in Group currency will be without digits , for example LC u2013 100,569 will become 101 after translation and not 100.569.
I was able to reach the results by defining no decimal places for TILS currency code.
I searched the forum before opening my thread. I saw Eugene wrote they built translation method with a lot of steps per each item. I defined translation method with 1 step only u2013 all items are translated cumulatively by end of day/month (M) rate. Translation difference item is P&L item XXX. Rounding method I use is a method that uses 3 steps (1 BS is rounded to clearing item of RE in BS, 2- P&L is rounded to clearing item of RE in P&L, 3 clearing item of RE in BS= clearing item of RE in P&L and rounded to clearing item of RE in P&L).
The problem is that we discovered that sometimes it can happen that Cons PC clearing item is out of balance because of rounding differences (instead of P&L item XXX rounding differences go to Cons PC clearing item).
Does anyone have some experience of how to deal with rounding differences in BCS and under the following conditions:
1.Total Cons PC clearing item must be equal to zero in each value (LC and GC)
2. clearing item of RE in BS= clearing item of RE in P&L
Thank you,
Lilia
Edited by: Lilia on May 29, 2010 1:54 PM
Hi Eugeny,
Of course we use a matrix structure, otherwise the Cons PC item won't be relevant.
For example, company 1000 is defined with Cons PC 100,200 and 300 in matrix.
I upload figures to BCS as follows:
Company Cons PC Item Value in LC
1000 100 111 -12,356
1000 200 222 -10,300
1000 300 333 22,656
123 - clearing item for Cons PC
After RE the figures look like these: (each Cons PC is balanced by clearing PC item)
Company Cons PC Item Value in LC
1000 100 111 -12,356
1000 200 222 -10,300
1000 300 333 22,656
1000 100 123 12,356
1000 200 123 10,300
1000 300 123 -22,356
After translation (only devide by 1000) and the group currency is without decimal places, the figures are:
Company Cons PC Item Value in LC Value in GC
1000 100 111 -12,356 -12
1000 200 222 -10,300 -10
1000 300 333 22,656 23
1000 100 123 12,356 12
1000 200 123 10,300 10
1000 300 123 -22,356 -23
Total of item 123 in GC is -1. This item must be always zero. This is the problem.
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