Roundtrip editing with Photoshop - bug in iPhoto :-(

I've setup Photoshop as external editor. Opening the photo in Photoshop works fine. I save as .jpg. But iPhoto doesn't seem to recognize the changed photo. And continues to show the edited photo in it's original state. Actually showing it twice. But not with the edits.
Now I looked at the folders. iPhoto 11 has the folder Masters for the pictures, but the external editing pics go through the folder Previews. And hence saving ends up in Previews. Since Masters is a hidden folder; you can't even save the new jpg file there. Looks like a bug to me...
The external option - save as, and reimport is just a pain... that I can't recommend to anyone in my family. I personally use Lightroom + Photoshop for myself, and it works like a charm.

Sorry, but it is one of the above.
That's a setting in Photoshop. It's defaulting to psd for saving, so when you "flatten... so it can be saved as a JPG" you're doing a Save As.
See Old Toad's post here
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17390148#17390148
for details on how to set it up.
Regards
TD

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