Roundtripping Betw. Soundtrack and FCE

I'm trying to get clear on the roundtrip process betw. Soundtrack and Final Cut Express 3.5:
Question: Why in FCE, under 'Send to' is there no link to Soundtrack? It seems that to get the FCE audio clip into Soundtrack I have to go to: File > Export > To Soundtrack.
So what's the difference between 'Send to' and 'Export'?
Thanks.

Soundtrack isn't an audio editing application. The Send to function points the application to the media you're working with using an XML export function. Export actually creates a file for Soundtrack to work with. There is an Export to Soundtrack which is basically to send you video there so you can sync up your audio with it.

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