Roundtripping between FCP and After Effects CS3

What is the best way to get clips from a FCP timeline into After Effects, and then back again? How do i do this without purchasing any additional plugins?
Also, how do i get an entire sequence into After Effects and then back into Final Cut Studio?
Yes, i admit i'm at a very beginning stage of my expertise, but i will apreciate any help in mastering these techniques.

Yeah...if you want separate clips, you cannot do this without Automatic Duck Pro Export for After Effects. YOu can export a self contained file and import that, then export out of AE and back into FCP.
Or use Motion., as Tony says.
Shane

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http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3c05d846/0
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- pi

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If you're not familiar with AFX then I strongly suggest you get the Adobe Classroom in a book for AFX and do a crash course in it. AFX is something you can figure out, but it's confusing at the same time.
As for getting footage back and forth, I export as a QT ref (recompress all files is unchecked) and use those files. I then export from AFX in the native format that my FCP project is in (in my case it's DV/DVCAM).
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Hi!
I'm new to after effects, but not new the adobe programs. I could be considered a "power user" for several of their products.
I'm currently trying to teach myself how to use After Effects with the classroom in a book series. In that teaching series, one of the things they are trying to teach is the integration between bridge and after effects to preview, and then export, effects. However, the integration between these two softwares is proving to be very buggy.
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All best-
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Thanks Todd!
This was very helpful!
All best-
Jane
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