Rountrip workflow: Adobe audition 5.5 and Premiere Pro 5.5

I have found the following 3 ways to export from audition back into premiere.
1. FCP XML - This opens up in premiere but any track based levels that I have changed are ignored by premiere. (clip based ones are not)
2. Multitrack>Export to premiere - I only get 2 options here - In stems or full mixdown to 1 file.
3. Multitrack mixdown - 1 single file.
When I bring my audio back into Premiere I want it to be in seperate clips (not stems or single track) and I want my track based audio adjustments to come across with it.
It appears I have 3 options and they all fall short if I have to re-vist the project to make changes.
Please help its driving me crazy.

ryclark wrote:
What's the point of sending it out from Premiere, adjusting it in Audition and sending back the unmixed audio?
To make any minor changes later own down the road. Ideally, one would edit everything perfectly and never have to make another change to a project, but that happens (at least for me) about 1% of the time.
I really hope CS6 will have true dynamic linking, then Audition would be significantly more useful.

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Or a few resources to explain the whole codec/export/bitrate/etc issue once and for all for different situations wether it be brodcast or internet or simply burning a dvd to play on a HD TV. It is almost like this is some kind of secret no one will tell...LOL...i cant find a difinitive answer anywhere.

As is stated above there are Production codecs which can be lossless, nearly lossless, and at higher bit depth. Production Codecs include Uncompressed (huge files but fast do decode and will not playback in real time) Editing Codecs like Black Magic, Avid, ProRez, and others that are smaller, can still be lossless, may support alpha channels and higher bit depths, and Archival Codecs like Microcosm, JPEG2000, PNG, which support alpha channels, are lossless, and on some systems, will playback in real time.
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There are also image sequence formats. These include PSD sequences, TGA, TIFF, PNG and others. Some support higher bit depth (32bit Float). Image Sequences work great, have advantages when it comes to correcting just a few frames here and there, and are used to a great extent in professional production pipelines. They are much more flexible than video but they have a distinct disadvantage when it comes to keeping track of the files and keeping things organized.
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Hi all,
Jeron wrote a reply to a topic on the CS3 windows forum that contained...
"If you are really serious about HD and Premiere Pro, IMHO the only way to go is uncompressed with an Aja Xena card. I have the least problems and get the best quality."
Ok,
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Level 1 - capture compressed via 1394 firewire card and edit in HDV.
Level 2 - capture compressed via 1394b firewire card / convert via Cineform / edit in HD.
Level 3 - capture uncompressed via sdi Aja Xena card and edit in HD.
Any opinions?

Harm pretty much summed it up really well, Nelson.
I've only ever shot HDV so I can only comment on that. If you are shooting HDV, you can...
1. Edit it as HDV
2. Edit it in an intermediate codec like Cineform's
3. Get the hardware to ingest it as uncompressed HD by getting an HD-SDI converter (or use HDMI if you can).
I usually just do #1. Lately I've been using Avid for HDV because it works better for my workflow, which is multi-cam with the audio recorded separately from the video. I'm hoping Adobe can fix the bugs that will make me productive again with PPro, because I miss dynamic link.
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I don't use #2 because I don't like Cineform's preset and the way it deals with non-Cineform filters and transitions. That is just a personal preference. I tend to use effects that are cross-NLE like Boris FX, so they work the same everywhere, Vegas, Avid, PPro, AE; etc. (Coming from an Avid background where their intermediate works better than native HDV with ALL filters and effects, Cineform was even more disappointing...)
Most people should be fine with Cineform. Chances are you will be happy with #1 or #2. Number 3 is a huge expense which is really not worth it if you are shooting on a compressed format like HDV in the first place. For me it is a better solution than Cineform, though if I want the extra headroom of 10 bit media.
(My comments in that other thread were a reaction to the OP ranting about Adobe not being "professional enough" for him to edit his "feature film" with a $700 HDV camera using "CINEFORM HD". I was trying to tell him if he is really serious, he wouldn't be shooting a "feature film" with a $700 HDV camera and editing in a compressed file workflow.)

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After Effects and Premiere Pro CS5.5 and CS6 are very slow to start all of a sudden. Around 5 minutes to get to/by the intro dialogue box. For AE, the majority of the time is spent on the "initializing user interface." Then, if I can make a comp, and even a layer inside that comp, it will "Hang" if I attempt to open AE's General preferences for example (no preferences window ever comes up). This "hang" is what the Event Viewer in windows calls it, with the faulting module being afterfx.exe. Premiere is not much different. It makes it to the new project window fast, but after setting project parameters and creating the first sequence, I can't get into the preferences either and the application hangs. It is important to note that if I have another application open, like Chrome or Firefox for example at the time the application hangs, they will freeze as well. As soon as I kill the Afterfx.exe process, they come back to life.
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Problem signature:
Problem Event Name:          APPCRASH
Application Name:          Photoshop.exe
Application Version:          12.0.0.0
Application Timestamp:          4bbc5b10
Fault Module Name:          CoolType.dll
Fault Module Version:          5.7.82.7602
Fault Module Timestamp:          4b980c97
Exception Code:          c0000005
Exception Offset:          0000000000073a92
OS Version:          6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID:          1033
Additional Information 1:          7c82
Additional Information 2:          7c821a1fc13b00b508d1bb6ee7ecaf44
Additional Information 3:          019c
Additional Information 4:          019cb6db15489631b8a43faf27e30830
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Application Version:          5.0.3.0
Application Timestamp:          4ce382d1
Fault Module Name:          CoolType.dll
Fault Module Version:          5.7.82.7449
Fault Module Timestamp:          4b7b1af3
Exception Code:          c0000005
Exception Offset:          00000000000739ea
OS Version:          6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48
Locale ID:          1033
Additional Information 1:          889a
Additional Information 2:          889afed61eb6ddf1c1c3419adc6026b6
Additional Information 3:          8235
Additional Information 4:          823549a371dff618695395cc0a8514ee
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Though I have read that changes have been made, Open Office's DejaVu font would crash PrPro's Titler - every time. There are quite a few others. Font Dr, and similar utilities, will not see the font(s) as corrupt, but they are so poorly designed, that PrPro and PS cannot deal with them.
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Repeat the proces, by uninstalling half of the remaining fonts and testing.
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Hunt
PS - one common cause for hangs on loading PrPro can be from VST's, used in Audio-editing. If you also have a lot of VST's, you could have two issues with two separate programs, i..e. PS hanging on fonts, and PrPro hanging on VST's. The results would be the same, but the causes could be different. That leads to even more work. For PrPro, also see this ARTICLE. If you get PS launching, but PrPro is still not functioning, drop by the PrPro Forum, and someone can help you there.

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