Route vs shipping point calendar

Hi,
Can some explain what happens when you don't specify a calendar in a route. How is the overall time for for delivery calculated if it is route dependent?
What happens if you have a shipping point calendar but the pick/pack time and load time are route dependent?
what takes precedence over the other?

Thanks for the answer. Actually I was unable to find out that in the shipping point detail, there is no calendar assignment.
Can u please elaborate on the second part of the answer.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sachin

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Extend routes from shipping point abc to xyz

Hi All,
i want to extend 5 routes from shipping point:abc to ftw
kindly help, Thanks

Hi,
You cannot define 5 routes for the same combination of departure zone and destination zone (including countries). For the same combination of departure country (plant country), departure zone, destination zone(from ship to party) destination country, even if you maintain different routes, there will be a problem in route determination in the sales order.
If there is a valid reason for doing this, you can mention the business logic. Then somebody can propose you a better solution.

Shipping point calendar

Hi all,
I am having scenario where factory calendar is having 5 weekdays. However due to this deliveries can not be picked and delivered on Sat and Sun. Schedule line could not pick the dates on saturday and sunday.
To resolve this we have two options here.
1. Change the factory calendar to 7 weekdays but it will affect the MRP process already setup in the plant. For that we can also use planning calendar. However for this master data maintenance is huge.
2. Assign a separate calendar to shipping point.
In the second option, I am not aware that whether is it possible to assign separate calendar for shipping point in SAP R3 or ECC. If it is possible, kindly let me know the config required for the same.
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Sachin

Thanks for the answer. Actually I was unable to find out that in the shipping point detail, there is no calendar assignment.
Can u please elaborate on the second part of the answer.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Sachin

Route & shipping point

Dear LE Friends,
Tme between the material availability date and transportation date should be 2 days.
Where do we make settings for the above requirement. I think it can be in the route or shipping point, but i am not sure.Can you please guide me.
Regards,
Sampath

Hi,
Additionally, you have also option to define transportation lead time at route definition.
But from what I understood it is more related to warehouse operations, and thus I agree this to be more pick/pack/loading timing at shipping point.
Regards,
Dominik Modrzejewski

Lead Time - Customizatiou0131n steps: Shipping point, route, and loading group

It says about delivery scheduling that "The lead time considers the shipping point, route, and loading group". Can anybody explain me briefly the customization menu steps about this sentence?
Thanks in advance.

Please go through this document it will help you
1) Maintain transportation planning point through Menu as follows:
IMG Maintain Logistic Execution  Definition Enterprise Structure  transportation planning point.
Create your own like BP01 enter the general data¡¯s required
2) Defining modes of transport:
IMG RoutesBasic Transportation Functions  Transportation Logistic Execution Define modes of transportDefine routes
Use the standard like:
Shipping type: 01
Description: Road
3) Define shipping types :
Basic Transportation Transportation Logistic ExecutionIMG Define shipping types Route Functions
Or through T-code: SM30
PT: 01
Description: Truck
Mdtr: 01
STPG: 0001
4) Define transportation connecting point :
LogisticIMG DefineRoutes  Basic Transportation Functions  Transportation Execution Define transportation connection pointsroutes
Copy the std point and make it FB01 as departure zone and FB02 as destination zone
5) Define routes and stages.
 Logistic Execution IMG Define Define routes Routes  Basic Transportation Functions Transportation routes and stages
Use the standard route and copy it as FB0001 and enter the departure zone and destination as what we created.
6) Defining Transportation Zone:
Basic Transportation Logistic Execution IMG Define transportation Router determination  Route Transportation Functions zones
Use the standard transportation zone depending on the route so as for the example use 0000000003 - Southern Region
7) Maintain country or transportation zone for shipping points
 Logistic Execution IMG  Route determination  Route  Basic Transportation Functions Transportation Maintain country and transportation zone for shipping point
Shipping point be ASH1 and route as 0000000003 which is assigned to country India
8) Maintain route determination:
Logistic ExecutionIMG Route determination Route  Basic Transportation Functions  Transportation  Maintain route determination
Country of departure: India
Departure Zone: 0000000003
Country of destination: India
Destination Zone: 0000000003
And enter the datas needed like shipping condition 01, etc.
Maintain Transportation relevance for shipping point, sales document type and delivery types.
9) Now create shipping types
IMG Define shipment Shipments  Transportation Logistic Execution types
Copy the standard 0001 and make it to AFIL
10) Define and assign traffic zones through T-Code: T_76 (or) thru menu as follows
IMG Define Basic functions  Shipments cost  Transportation Logistic Execution and assign tariff zones
Copy the standard and make it to FABTARIFF and assign our transportation planning point as ATP1, ATP2 assign tariff zone to every particular transportation planning point
11) Define and assign pricing procedures
Shipments Transportation  Logistic Execution IMG define and assign pricing Price control  Pricing cost procedures
Copy the standard shipping cost pricing procedure SDFC00 to FBSC01
12) Assign purchasing data:
 Logistic Execution IMG Assign purchasing data Settlement  Shipments cost Transportation
13) Assign transportation planning point to shipping condition, purchase organization, purchasing group and to plants.
14) Define Automatic G/L account determination:
 Transportation  Logistics Execution IMG Automatic G/L Account Determination Settlement Shipment Costs
Or through T-code: OMWB
Use G/L account 614000 as used in standard
15) Automatic determination of CO assignments:
IMG Automatic Settlement  Shipment Costs  Transportation Logistics Execution Determination of CO Assignments
Or T-code: OKB9
16) Maintain shipping point address.
 Logistics Execution  Definition Enterprise Structure Define, copy, delete, check shipping point
17) Creating G/L account centrally.
Financial AccountingAccounting  Master Records  General Ledger 
Individual Processing Centrally
Or through T-Code: FS00
18) Enter the G/L account 614000 to the company code AFIL
19) Create transportation condition records:
 Shipment cost  Transportation  Master data Logistic Execution createPrices
Or thru T-code: TK11
Enter condition type FB00 that is freight condition type, which is used as standard in the shipping cost pricing procedure.
Enter the price and save it
Process:
1. The system determines the pricing procedure for the shipment cost item-using transportation planning point, service agent and shipment cost item category
2. Calculation Basis
3. Condition Record
4. Access sequence.
For the sales order, create a delivery using VL01N and pick the goods. Now create a shipment using VT01N and assign the delivery to the shipment document. Make sure to enter the carrier and other details before performing the transportation planning and execution. Save the shipment document and PGI for the delivery would be done automatically.
A shipment represents a physical goods movement between two or more locations.
For the system to create a shipment, shipping-relevant deliveries must exist.
You use Transportation Planning to group pending deliveries into shipments and then to perform the shipments.
The outbound delivery documents contain routes that the system calculates in route determination, and a transportation planning date for the delivery.
Dynamic transportation planning is responsible for grouping together outbound deliveries into shipments that have at least the same route, visit plan type and the same transportation planning date.
The following restrictions can be taken into account for a shipment in Dynamic Transportation Planning:
Weight
Volume
Variable capacity
Number of stops
Maximum duration
Loading units
Create Shipment Document
Use
After the status of the delivery is open for transportation planning, it is possible to create a shipment document to schedule the transportation.
Transportation Create Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  TransportationPlanning
T.code: VT01n
Enter your transportation planning point and shipment type. Press enter.
Creating the shipment cost document
Use
After the deliveries are scheduled by shipment and the shipment is executed, now it is time to maintain and close the shipment document in order to record all relative information and ready for the shipment cost settlement.
Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  Transportation Shipment cost Create
T.code: VI01.
After creation of shipment cost doc. You settle the Shipment cost.
Go to VI02, enter shipment cost no.and press enter.
Then go to Overview -- Fright cost items, Select the line item and double click it.
Go as main menu: Item --> Acc. assignment, you enter G/L acc. and cost center to which the transportation cost will be posted.
On the Standard change, details Freight cost items screen, then check the check box Transfer, which means you will transfer the relative transportation cost to FI/CO, in this case, the system should determined which Purchase Order will used to settle the cost, so after you check the Transfer check box.
Press save button on the current screen.
Shipment cost settlement and documents:
Use
After the shipment cost settled in shipment cost document, it has the following affects:
It creates a service entry sheet that refers to the purchase order determined.
It posts acceptance of services performed.
It creates an accounting document for the accruals.
Further subsequent documents are created in FI.
Create Delivery:
T.code: Vl01n
Create TO:
T.code: LT03
Create Shipment Document
Use
After the status of the delivery is open for transportation planning, it is possible to create a shipment document to schedule the transportation.
 Transportation Planning  Create Single document Logistics Logistic Execution Transportation
T.code: VT01n
Enter your transportation planning point and shipment type. Press enter.
Creating the shipment cost document
Use
After the deliveries are scheduled by shipment and the shipment is executed, now it is time to maintain and close the shipment document in order to record all relative information and ready for the shipment cost settlement.
Single document Logistics Logistic Execution  Transportation Shipment cost Create
T.code: VI01.
After creation of shipment cost doc. You settle the Shipment cost.
Go to VI02, enter shipment cost no.and press enter.
Then go to Overview -- Fright cost items, Select the line item and double click it.
Go as main menu: Item --> Acc. assignment, you enter G/L acc. and cost center to which the transportation cost will be posted.
On the Standard change, details Freight cost items screen, then check the check box Transfer, which means you will transfer the relative transportation cost to FI/CO, in this case, the system should determined which Purchase Order will used to settle the cost, so after you check the Transfer check box.
Press save button on the current screen.
Shipment cost settlement and documents:
Use
After the shipment cost settled in shipment cost document, it has the following affects:
It creates a service entry sheet that refers to the purchase order determined.
It posts acceptance of services performed.
It creates an accounting document for the accruals.
Further subsequent documents are created in FI.
Generally process is-
1) VL01N
2) VT01
3) VL02N - PGI
4) VI01
5) ML81N Service Entry Sheet
6) MIRO Invoice Verification
Shipping docs (VT01) are created before PGI...
You cannot carry out transportation planning or creation of shipment after the goods issue has been executed. Once goods issue is done it means that the material has left your premises so there is no need for a transportation planning after it.
In case you need carry out the shipment documents at the end of the day you could just create the delivery documents during the day and at end of the day create the shipment documents and the goods issue
This link is also usseful:
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/LETRA/SDTRA.pdf
Hope this helps you.
Regards
nitin

Route Determination and Shipping Point

Hi,
In what way Route Determination and Shipping Point are connected.
advise please.
thanks

Simon,
The country and transportation zone of the Shipping point is also considered for determination of Route in sales order and also for redetermining it in delivery.
The system can automatically determine a route for each item during order entry. If visit lists/plans underlie order entry the system uses the routes from the visit lists/plans. If no visit lists/plans exist, the system performs standard route determination. The following criteria affect route determination in an order:
·        Country and transportation zone of the shipping point (departure zone)
·        Shipping condition
·        Transportation group of the material
·        Country and transportation zone of the ship-to party
the system is to perform standard route determination in the delivery again, it also takes into account the weight group (weight of entire delivery). The system saves the delivery route in the delivery header. As it is saved in the document header the route applies to the whole delivery
Regards

Shipping Point, Route

Hi,
In VA21 Transaction for Type = QT, I am able to see the values for Shipping point and Route for a particular Sales organization and not able to see the values for another Sales organization.
Any ideas?

HI DN N,
Shipping Point & Route are automatic determinations and get determined at the Item level of a Sales document. They get determined as eblow:
1. Shipping Point -
Shipping Conditions (Sales DOc type Config / Cutsomer master)
Loadging Group ( Material Master - Sales Gen/Plant data)
Deliveruing plant
2. Route :
Departure Zone of Shipping Point
Shipping Conditions (Sales DOc type Config / Cutsomer master)
Transportation Group - ( Material Master - Sales Gen/Plant data)
Transportation zone of Ship-to-party
SO check whether the assignments are made properly in IMG and other realted places like CMIR / CM / MM
Reward if it helps
regards
Srini

Shipping point , route and GR

Hello Gurus,
Consider the following sentence :
"Shipping point and route are determined with the GR."
My understanding is shipping point is determined by shipping condition, delivery plant, loading group.
and
route is departure zone, transportation related and shipping condition.
So, I not sure why the above statement is referring to GR. Only with the 2 information determined can the goods be received.
regards
M Russo

Hi ,
The shipping point is determined once the item is processed in the order . First it determines delivering plant thru a search from master data . and from the delivering plant the shipping point . Same with route first from ship to party, ship conditions and after the item is processed the route.
What the sentence can imply is that once you GR is done in your respective plant you can then only decide your shipping point and then the route. My suggestion dont ponder over it.
Regards
Deepak

Veiw/extract calendars against which shipping points use them?

Hi Guys,
Really need some help on this one.
Iu2019m looking for a way I can view en-mass or extract calendars against which shipping points use them. I have been asked to change some dates for certain calendars but want to be sure that they are not used in other none related shipping points. Obviously this will cause issues! I know some do.
Currently Iu2019m stuck manually checking the shipping points individually in SPRO via >Enterprise Structure > Definition > Logistics Execution > Define etc shipping point > Define shipping point. Highlight the row and display. When I try and view any of the tables direct in SE16N (i.e. V_TVST) instead of coming up with nice neat tables I again get the SPRO data inthe above fromat and have to run through manually.
Can you help?

Just use table name TVST in SE16 or SE16N.
Regards,

In STO Process How can i Change the shipping point manually

Hi,
I need clarification in STO process, shipping point determined automatically based on ovl2 setting like Shipping condition from customer master loading group from material master plant in the line item.(here the shipping point is1000.)
In my scenario it picking correctly shipping point(1000) even i have maintained manually shipping point(1200) in ovl2 but when i am creating STO document UB change shipping point at item level in shipping tab system allowing the manual shipping point (1200) but when i enter or save the document system overwrite 1200 to 1000,system consider only automatic determination in shipping point (1000)
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Sending a calendar to another country is not supported in many jurisdictions - as it can lead to extra charges for the receiver. As I have no idea what country you are in you can select your country from this list
http://store.apple.com/us/help/print_products/routing
And find out if it's supported in your country and to your chosen destination.
Regards
TD

Use of "Rounding work days" in shipping point?

Hi, Could someone please explain to me how the "rounding work days" in shipping point is used for ATP purpose (within R/3 itself)?
Let's assume that the Delivery date is coming up as 18th Nov, 2011 08:00:00 hrs in schedule line, and the rounding work days is maintained as 0.2 days. Assume that the route has 1 day for transport, and this route time is relevant as per shipping point configuration.
What would be the value of GI date/time that I should expect for the schedule line?
Do I simply convert 0.2 days to hrs in 00:00:00 format, and subtract this time for delivery date to arrive at GI date, or could any other master data come into picture for GI date calculation?
I am currently seeing GI on 17th Nov, 2011 00:00:00 hrs, and not able to understand this value of GI time.
PS: Calendar for route is a custom calendar with working time from 00:00 to 24:00 hrs on all weekdays (monday to friday), and no working hrs are maintained at the shipping point.

Hi,
If the current date is 03.11.2011.
you have maintained rounding work days 2 days. days specifyied in route is 1day.
then if you raise an order for current date.system will propose schedule lines after 3 days it means 07.11.2011.
Thank you,

Receiving Day / Shipping Point

Hi Experts!
When delivering e.g. to Spain from a German shipping point there is a calendar assigned on customer site that has no holiday at all combined with a fixed receiving day "Friday". The German calendar is assigned to the shipping point.
Because of the route (transit days = 2 days) plus 1 day pick/pack we have always on Tuesdays the material availabiltity day when the delivery starts automatically.
I realize that in week 21 (holiday on Thursday) the system calculates the Monday as material availability date and I wonder why. Obviously the holiday was considered even the material has already left Germany. In consequence the delivery is too early.
My understanding is that the settings of the shipping point should calculate only the material availability date and the goods issue date but not more. The Spanish customer is not interested in any holiday in Germany.
I can't change the setting for the shipping point because our German deliveries have to be kept in this way.
Any idea?
Kind regards,
Hartmut Kroeger

Hi, thanks for your answer, but this is not what I meant.
The customer has the goods receiving day intentionally, this is to concentrate all deliveries to him on Tuesday (all material availability dates are Tuesdays).
Therefore on Customer site everything is OK.
What I don't understand is that the material availability day was calculated here on Monday.
Even picking and packing on Tuesday would be OK, then it's sent out anyway. And the following holiday on Thursday should not have any impact on the pack-work in Germany (the '"send work" has alredy finnished then in Germany).
Therefore my understanding was that any calendar on customer site calculates the goods receiving day (here the Spanish customer) and the calender for the shipping point calculates the Material availability date resp. the Goods Issue date but not the complete transit time.
In other words: My setting in the Spanish customer has no meaning, anyway all dates are calculated based on the calendar in the shipping point, no matter what calendar is on customer site.
My problem does not depend especially on a calendar setting on customer site.
Even without a fix goods receiving day, e.g. for a requested date on Fridays we have the same problem.
In that week where a holiday is, the system calculates one day earlier even the original dates (without holiday) could be used without any danger. In fact we are delivering too early to that customer.
Regards,
Hartmut Kroeger
Edited by: Hartmut Kroeger on Jun 5, 2009 7:45 AM
Hi all...
In the meantime I got the solution!
As already explained, on customer site everything is OK, same with the shipping point. Problems I had just with the transportation times, I wanted to ignore any holidays there. This is possible by assigning in the routes directly a calendar, of course without any holidays.
So now all levels are OK for me (customer, routes, shipping point).
Regards,
Hartmut Kroeger

Implementing work time for shipping points

Hi,
I was trying to implement work hours for shipping points and has come across a weird issue. Once I define working shifts , the calculated PGI date is one day early,
Example:
Without work shifts for shipping point
Customer requested date - 08/26/2011
Route -2 day truck
No pick pack /loading time
I get a PGI date of 08/24
Work shift of 06:00 to 14 :00 hrs defined for shipping point, everything else remains the same:
I get a PGI date of 08/23 , 14: 00 Hrs.
The users are not happy with this; does anyone have a clue as to why SAP behaves in this manner and what is the business reason behind this calculation ?
Thanks,
Hari.

HI,
It basically depends on the working times, shifts and factory calendar.
If your PGI falls on a Sat or Sun then SAP would calculate the PGI date on the subsequent working day.
Regards,
Amit

Factory calender for Shipping Point

Dear,
if we change the Factory calender for Existing shipping point, Can i know what are the provlems will face??
Thanks in adv.

You can do this by using tcode:OVXD ( Define Shipping Point) -Initial step to create Shipping Point in Enterprise structure.
Select your shipping Point & Click on Details button - you will find Factory Calender field.
It will have impact on following:
- confirmation dates of Qty(Lead time)
- Need to check Public holidays.
- Confirmation Date on sales document items, may get re-calculated as the shipping point may have less/more days now to do backward/forward scheduling
- If you are on a MTO environment, the start/finish date of the manufacturing order may change, as now you may have more/less days than previously estimated
-The MRP demand may change, now requesting certain product to be available (material Availability Date) either earlier or later
-Your "Route" (Transit Time) may be off and if you have any "D" Incoterms that drive revenue recognition at different times after PGI, then they may be off now that the date is different.
One suggestion. Copy your client to a temporary sand box client, then do the change there and then try to ship some orders on the date that is/was marked as a holiday, also change some sales orders (anything that will re-trigger the scheduling like quantity or delivery date) and take a look not only to the sales document, but to the manufacturing order as well as get the MRP folks to be aware of the impact on their side . Having the compare client, you will be able to see what happen in your production system vs. how it behaves on your new sandbox with the new calendar.
Hope it can assist you.
Thanks & Regards
JP

Controlling PO incoterms/delivery address from SO shipping point

Hi,
We want to be able to create sales orders with individual Purchase orders ( Purchase orders created with sales order as account assignment - one PO for SO/SO Item )
We want to select freely between multiple shipping point in different countries within the same plant ( in free trade zones )
What is the best way to ensure that the purchase order reflects the different shipping point ? As this is DDU, the Vendor needs to know where to send the goods. You could imagne that the Incoterm 2 would be dynamically set according to the shippingpoint, but the Incoterms in the PO are static - header from vendor master, item from inforecord. Also is the PO delivering address not updated.
We are afraid that the vendor sends the goods to one place and the DSP will attempt to pick up at another ...

Thanks much for your time!
All i need is 2 W/days for picking and 2 W/days for loading from the shipping point. Do i need to delete duration also? i have deleted the workign times. Also , i do not need anything from Routes as well. I maintain duration , do i need to maintain them in days for all the possible routes ?? Since my pick/loading times are based on shipping points only , do i have to maintain this data for routes and wt grps ?
Really appreciate ur sharing ur experience!!
-Amit

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