Router antenna extending cable

We have the Cisco WRT54G wifi router in many offices in this building. This router has two antennas. These antenna are screw into the back of the router unit. The antenna is male and router side is female of the connector.
Can you please tell me what are these connectors (some type of RF connectors)? How can we get extension cables for these to move the antenna from one fix location to another point? Thank you.
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Alot of the lower end consumer stuff switched to a smaller connector (RP-SMA), cisco stuck with the
standard RP-TNC, although some bigger/outdoor antennas may have N, but cables that go from N to RP-TNC are readily available.
Here is the link provides the detailed information: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps7183/ps469/product_data_sheet09186a008008883b....
So it depends where that type of cable is being used.

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Good day and thx in advance for any help.
I 'm administration an Aironet 1242ag, and we are currently buying an
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Router#sh run
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 10736 bytes
! Last configuration change at 18:14:42 MST Fri Nov 16 2012 by matt.chan
version 12.4
service nagle
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service timestamps log datetime msec localtime show-timezone year
service password-encryption
hostname Router
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enable secret 5 <removed>
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aaa authentication login AUTH-LOCAL local-case
aaa session-id unique
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clock timezone MST -7
ip cef
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ip nbar pdlm flash:citrix.pdlm
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ip nbar custom steam destination udp range 27000 27030
ip nbar custom rdp destination tcp range 3389 3391 55402
ip domain lookup source-interface FastEthernet0/0
ip name-server 8.8.8.8
ip inspect name fa0/0_inspect_ou icmp router-traffic timeout 10
ip inspect name fa0/0_inspect_ou ftp timeout 300
ip inspect name fa0/0_inspect_ou udp router-traffic timeout 120
ip inspect name fa0/0_inspect_ou tcp router-traffic timeout 300
login block-for 60 attempts 4 within 60
login quiet-mode access-class ACL-ACCESS-QUIET
password encryption aes
crypto pki trustpoint TP-self-signed-1755372391
enrollment selfsigned
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ip ssh port 2226 rotary 1
ip ssh version 2
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policy-map PMAP-QOS-VTI-IN
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policy-map PMAP-QOS-VTI-OUT
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authentication pre-share
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set pfs group5
interface Loopback0
no ip address
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bandwidth 4000
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ip mtu 1400
ip nbar protocol-discovery
ip nat inside
ip virtual-reassembly
ip tcp adjust-mss 1360
ip ospf authentication message-digest
ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 7 12090011003E5A0C0F186E752220211B4A
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tunnel source FastEthernet0/0
tunnel destination <removed>
tunnel mode ipsec ipv4
tunnel path-mtu-discovery
tunnel protection ipsec profile EDGE
service-policy output PMAP-QOS-VTI-OUT
hold-queue 75 out
interface FastEthernet0/0
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bandwidth 4000
ip address dhcp
ip access-group ACL-OUTSIDE-IN in
no ip proxy-arp
ip nbar protocol-discovery
ip nat outside
ip inspect fa0/0_inspect_ou out
ip virtual-reassembly
ip ospf cost 1
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speed auto
no keepalive
no cdp enable
interface FastEthernet0/1
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ip virtual-reassembly
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no ip http server
ip http authentication local
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ip nat translation tcp-timeout 300
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ip nat inside source static tcp 172.16.0.4 80 interface FastEthernet0/0 8084
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permit 216.161.180.16
permit 172.16.0.0 0.1.255.255
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permit tcp any any range 2226 2228
permit tcp any any range 8081 8084
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permit icmp any any host-unreachable
permit icmp any any port-unreachable
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permit icmp any any packet-too-big
permit icmp any any administratively-prohibited
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permit icmp any any ttl-exceeded
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logging trap debugging
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logging 172.17.228.10
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exec-timeout 15 0
privilege level 15
logging synchronous
login authentication AUTH-LOCAL
line aux 0
login authentication AUTH-LOCAL
line vty 0 4
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logging synchronous
login authentication AUTH-LOCAL
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transport input ssh
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ntp clock-period 17178311
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Hi Matt,
Try adding below line
ip access-list extended ACL-OUTSIDE-IN
permit udp any eq bootpc any eq bootps
Regards
Najaf
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i want to use the extreme as the main router and extend the network using the billion router.
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Belkin F5D7230-4 and F5D7231
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You would not use this setting unless your service provider has furnished you with a specific range of IP addresses to use for your devices. Is that the case?
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You do this with a pci slot. Either the following,
Newer Technology eSATA Extender Cable Adapter
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Sonnet Technology Tempo SATA E2P Serial ATA Host Adapter Card

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