Router Bridge

Hi all,
Sorry if this has been asked before.
I'm thinking of getting BT Infinity but my current router is in the middle of the room with BTvission box, my Xbox and my suresignal connected, all the wires to the router are hidden under the carpet and behind the fake fireplace so I can'tn really have the new wires going all round the room.
Is it possible to bridge 2 HH3's so the infinitely hub can be in the corner of the room and the second hub stay where it is without the need of wires (except the power!)?
If so how do I do it? (I'm not a beginner but not advanced either! )
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Thanks,
Would I still get the increased speed via powerline adapters?
What make would be best to buy?
Provided your mains wiring is good, there should be no drop in speed. Look for the TP-Link PA411KIT AV500 500 Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack
They should be more than adequate.
One end will plug into the LAN port of the Openreach modem, and the other one will plug into your existing HH3 WAN port.
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
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neocro, Welcome to the discussion area!
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Can i connect my time capsule with my router as a bridge ?

can i connect my time capsule with my router as a bridge ?

I am a bit lost .. did you work this out?? You are running a second thread.. and answered it with this question.
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Do you mean wireless bridge??
If you mean wireless bridge the answer is maybe but unlikely.
If you setup the TC to join a wireless network.. it becomes a dumb client not a bridge.
So to get it to wireless bridge you need to use another apple router.. that is the only way to get them to work.
If you want specifics ask specific questions.

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GT784WNV not working in Bridge Mode! Fed up with lack of Customer Service

I don't even know where to start but I am this close to just cancelling Verizon and switching to cable internet. If you want to skip the rant, jump down a paragraph.
I recently moved from a house a few miles away in which I had a solid DSL connection with a Westell 7500 in routed bridge mode that worked just fine with my Asus RT-N56U that I use for browsing, streaming, and online gaming. When I moved, the technician insisted I take the newer Actiontec GT784WNV. Needless to say, Verizon support was unsuccessful in getting it set up in bridge mode. After about 4 hours of unsuccessful troubleshooting, I suggested swapping it back out with my 7500 which worked fine just 4 days prior in my old house. Surprise! It miraculously started working just as it had previously. As I began to use it more, I noticed the connection was unstable. I would get dropped from Xbox Live and lose connection temporarily on my iPad. I ran the Verizon speed test and it would drop to about 0 and spike back up 3 or 4 times during the download test (don't think this is normal but could be). Every day I would talk to Verizon who escalated it to a supervisor about 4 times. They would then close the ticket without calling me. When i would follow up, I was told the supervisor talked to me and I verified the connection was good. Lying makes me livid and there is no accountability whatsoever at Verizon and it happened more than once. It appears to be a way for them to pass the problem on to someone else. I can go on and on about being put on hold for 40 minutes before disconnected, the 20+ hours I have spent re-telling my account info and story to every Tier 1 technician on their payroll for the past week, or the lack of competent customer service supervisors. This weekend, I finally got a call from someone local who said my line had some faults on it and that the problem was somewhere between my jack and the central office and they would send someone out today. Well....today the tech showed up and said "your problem is this old modem" and plugged in the Actiontec that I started with a week ago. I asked if he tested my line or the jack as the lady on the phone told me, and he said no. The problem is the modem. I said, I don't want a modem/router, I just want a regular modem and he said he had one, but it would cost me. How on earth is a plain modem going to cost me when they just installed an 802.11n router/modem combo for free? Absolutely terrible. I told him I want it in bridge mode because I don't want to use the wireless or the routing capabilities of the Actiontec. He said I have to do that and people normally just call Best Buy to have the Geek Squad come out. This really **bleep** me off as I used to run a network shop and configure Cisco routers and switches for a living. Once again, I have spent the past 6 hours tonight on the phone with Verizon only to end up back where I started.
At this point, I need to make this Actiontec GT784WNV a dummy (bridge) and let my Asus Rt-N56U do the work on my network. My Asus has all the port forwarding in place that I need for Xbox Live, etc. I have tried releasing the IP, changing the modem to RFC 1483 Transparent Bridging, disabling DHCP, changing the LAN IP to 192.168.99.1, etc. and it just will NOT get an internet connection. My router is configured correctly, unless there is something different between the Westell and the Actiontec that would require a setting change. Verizon is stumped, Asus hasn't called me back yet, and I am ready to just switch to Cable unless someone can help with a solution. I've been at this for a week. I have spent WAYY too much time fighting with a company that has no desire to deliver or to follow through and with absolutely zero accountability or business sense. Westell 7500 + Asus RT-N56U in old house worked fine. Move houses, change modem, doesn't work, switch back to old modem, works but unstable, tech claims old modem is my problem, plugs in new modem, doesn't work. I just want to use my router. How hard can that be? Can anyone please help?

Unfortunately that didn't work. I ended up putting my router in the DMZ as a workaround but it still had it's share of issues. After another week of trying to get Verizon to fix my connection (constant dropped connections forcing reboots of modem and router multiple times daily) I had Cable Internet installed today. Went from an unstable 6Mb/s to a stable 30Mb/s with Cable. I should have done this weeks ago. I wasted over 50 hours of my time with Verizon bouncing my issue around to others hoping someone else would be willing to fix it. Still no accountability with everyone tinkering with my setup taking a stab in the dark. The last person I spoke with set up a technician to come to my house later this week...AGAIN because he said there is something wrong on the line. I've known that for weeks but the tech that refused to fix my issue when he was in my house last week instead tried blaming it on something completely irrelevant because he had no clue what to do. One would think someone from Verizon would have reached out to me from this thread but they did not. In fact, the last tech's supervisor called me when i wasn't home, said "hello, this is XXX from Verizon......hello?" and hung up. Never a follow up as I was left once again to solve the problem myself. Well...I did. The incompetence of Verizon, it's poor training, and awful follow up procedures has cost them a customer. I am truly disappointed.

Jumping gun? Netgear N300 Wireless ADSL2+ modem/router

Hi,
I'm probably jumping the gun here but I've got a Verizon Actiontec GT704WG modem/router and have been disapointed in the last few months by spotty wireless and internet connectivity when nothing else in my house has changed. In addition, I need to make a non-network-ready external HD a network drive so either have to have a NAS adapter (incredibly difficult to find at a local store) and I'm awaiting information on whether or not I have to format (again) my already FAT32 file system drive for an adapter to recognize the drive or whether or not the adapter will work without re-formatting my drive. The work around is the Netgear N300 Wireless ADSL2+ modem router because it will allow me to attach the non-network ready drive without an additional NAS adapter.
However, after reading all the problems that people have with third-party modem/routers and Verizon DSL I'm a little concerned about trying to hook this up as a solution. So I have some questions:
1. Do I have to put the Actiontec GT704WG into bridge mode as Verizon recommends or can I get rid of the Actiontec altogether and just use the new modem/router?
2. I have no idea if I have ADSL+ service with Verizon. Assume I can call and find out or get the info from my account page. But if I do not have that service, will the new modem/router work with basic ADSL service that Verizon provides (ok, that's my really dumb question)?
3. If it's better to just stick with the Verizon modem/router and get a NAS adapter does anyone have a recommendation on a reasonably priced adapter? I don't want a NAS enclosure as I'm not really interested in breaking my external drive and removing the guts so I'd prefer a stand-alone adapter.
4. If I can get rid of the Actiontec altogether, can someone provide some assistance for the proper settings to get me setup without too much fiddling? I'm so sick of spending hours trying to troubleshoot computer issues!
I have an older PC wired into the Actiontec, a network printer attached to the Actiontec, and am running windows XP pro on the PC and have a laptop that is running windows 7. Evil Empire Microsoft has made the lovely choice to make it difficult sometimes for the two OS to communicate and I'm tired of leaving the PC on all the time so that I can use my external drive (if Win7 cooperates) as a network drive through the PC. I'd rather have it as a real network drive operating independently of the PC and point my iTunes, word processing, and database programs to the network drive rather than trying to get them to run through the PC into the external drive.
I wish Verizon would offer more choices on modem/routers, especially ones that offer you the option to add a usb storage device as a network asset!
Thanks for any help! I know I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I'd like to return the new modem/router ASAP if it's not going to do what I need without tons of hassle.
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Since the Netgear you have is a DSL modem, there is no need to use the ActionTec. Disconnect it from the line and keep it around as a spare modem should you ever need it for troubleshooting purposes. Also, even though the modem you are buying is marketed as an ADSL2+ modem, the technology is specced to be backwards compatible with traditional ADSL. The ActionTec you currently have is an ADSL2+ modem itself, so that should back up that statement enough. The only thing you need to make sure you verify before switching the ActionTec out for the Netgear is what authentication mode the ActionTec is using. This can be set to either PPPoE or DHCP (shows as Routed Bridge mode) and should show up on the main status page when you visit the ActionTec's web inteface. If you're using PPPoE, you should have no issues getting the Netgear to work. If you're using DHCP, you will need to either close the MAC address of the ActionTec into the Netgear, or leave the modem overnight before you are able to obtain an IP address.
Otherwise the Netgear depends on how you decide to set it up. If you set it up through the Web Interface (http://192.168.1.1/ for Netgears, normally), you need to make sure the DSL Virtual Circuit is set to use 0/35, VPI of 0, VCI of 35. The modem should auto-detect this on first boot. Additionally, if you're using PPPoE you'd need to use your Verizon Username and Password to connect the modem. If you set it up using the Setup CD, it should do all of that heavy lifting.
ReadySHARE (what you're looking to set up with the External Hard Drive) uses the same Windows File and Sharing setup, however it does it using Samba shares, FTP and HTTP since the router runs Linux. The reliability you see might remain the same, but I suppose it's one of those things you need to wait and see how it works once the router is set up. Just remember, the speeds to the drive will not be as fast as going through a PC with better hardware under the hood.
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How to use a Westell 7500 as a router-switch ?

I have an extra Verizon Westell 7500 DSL modem router (A90-750015-07). How do I turn it into a router-switch that will take an ethernet (not DSL) network feed (with internet access) and distribute it among a few devices and put those devices into some kind of sub-network so they see each other? I'm not using technical terms here - please teach me.
My wife is going to rent a small temporary office that provides internet access via a socket in the wall. Let's assume it's a typical RJ-45 ethernet socket. The internet speed might actually be pretty good - maybe 30Mbs down and very fast up. The total internet capacity is shared with other temporary offices in the facility, but let's assume we'll have enough for our needs.
If the only thing I bring is a single computer, I could use a J-45 ethernet cable to plug its network card directly into this socket and be done. But I'll be bringing at least two computers and a small printer/scanner. Both computers will need to share the internet access, and both computers and the printer/scanner will need to "see" each other. (Just like at home.)
So, if I plug the extra Westell 7500 into the network wall socket and then my PCs and printer into the Westell, I should get what I need here, yes? How do I do this exactly, step-by-step?
I have experimented at home and have maybe 10% success. At home, I don't have an ethernet socket in the wall, but I do have my current (not Westell) modem-router, and it has an unused LAN socket, which I am pretending is the office's ethernet socket. I connected a test computer to the Westell 7500 and logged onto the Westell 7500's embedded server (192.168.1.1), changed its VersaPort from "LAN ethernet port" to "WAN uplink port", connected the newer modem-router's unused LAN socket to the Westell 7500's E1/Uplink socket with a J45 cable, went to the Westell 7500's "Advanced" page and ran "Detect WAN Configuration". That changed the Westell 7500's "WAN uplink port Settings Protocal" from PPPoE to Routed IP. The Westell 7500 now also says its "Broadband Connection Type" is "Routed Bridge".
The test computer connected to the Westell 7500 shows it is connected to the Westell 7500, but it cannot connect all the way through to the internet. At the start, the newer modem-router shows the Westell is connected to it, and the newer modem-router has given the Westell a DHCP address of 192.168.1.5. But after a few minutes, the newer modem-router doesn't show the Westell any more. If I re-run Detect WAN Configuration on the Westell 7500, it says "Automatic Protocol Detecion is in progress" but then "DHCP server was found ... PPPoE server not found", and then the newer modem-router shows the Westell 7500 again as 192.168.1.5. But the test computer does not have internet access.
What exactly should I do with the additional settings in the Westell 7500 to make this work?
If there's a great web site to explain this to me, please point me there.
Thanks.

The answer is at
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1856344/convert-westell-7500-router-switch.html#11803251
and the links in that post.

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