Router (phone line) question

My modem/router plus into a phone jack outlet in my wall (the only functional one in my house.) Now I need the same outlet to send occasional EKGs to a doctors office or fax. I have an adapter whereby I can plug two appliances (router and EKG monitor) into the same phone jack outlet. My question is whether doing so will degrade my wireless coverage/ communications via the router.

Yes, you can use a dual phone jack adaptor to plug your DSL modem and another telephone device into the same jack. You will need to use a DSL filter on the other device, otherwise the DSL signals can interfere with the operation of the other device and they may be degraded enough to prevent the DSL modem from working.
You should have gotten some DSL filters when you had the service installed. If you don't have one, you can find them online easily enough; or you can pay significantly more to buy one at your local electronics retailer.
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New/Additional phone line question- help please!

Hi
I am after some advice, and every time I call BT I get passed around as I am not 100% on what to ask for, or who I should speak to.
Basically, we have 2 phone lines coming into the house. One line/number + broadband signal goes via a repeater to the office which is a separate building across the garden (approx 300m but I am not sure on the actual distance). The signal is not great, for the broadband particularly - often drops out etc. To solve this we would like a new physical line installed in the office building to give us a separate phone and broadband package to that of the main house, but ideally keeping the same number as we currently use in the office. The office is used everyday for working from home and so is important to us.
Does that make sense? I fully expect that an engineer will need to look at the site, and there will be a (significant) charge for the line to be installed (underground pipe work for cables already exists from house to office building and so this could be utilised). Do I just place an order for a new line online, and wait for an engineer's visit? Can I deal with changing the number at a later date if that is easier for the system to deal with? Last time I rang BT, I was told I needed to speak to the exceptions team, when I was put through to them she told me all I needed to do was speak to customer services, customer services thought I was trying to move home and then didn't seem to understand what I needed (but it was probably how I was explaining it!).
I would be so grateful if someone could point me in the right direction, or give me tips on what to ask for. My main worry is keeping the same phone number as it would be so much easier.
Thanks in advance
MPA

this link may help http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/network/whoareyou/selfbuild/selfbuild.do
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Getting FiOS next week... 2nd Phone line Question

We just signed up for FiOS Triple play and will be installed next week... We have two phone lines (on seperate accounts) coming in the house... the FiOS rep said that they can hook up one during install and that I have to call after install and have the second account merged into the FiOS acct for an additional $10/month... is this true? Or do I have to sign up for another phone package at an additional cost?
If there is a VZ rep who can assist me that would be awesome or someone who has had this experience to walk me thru it..

We can help you out with your inquiry. I have sent you a private message to get some account info from you.
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Noise from router on phone line

I just got my DSL from Verizon activated today, the router connects fine, and I have my DSL filters in place, but I am getting this 'snow' sort of noise on the phone line when my router is turned on.
Also, when you turn the router on when listening to the phone, you hear some beeping electronic sounds when the router is trying to connect.

What you're hearing as far as the Electronic Noises on the line is normal for many lines (like little beeping sounds), but they should only be pretty faint even on the loudest of Corded phones. That should only happen during synchronization. The additional chatter or noise you hear on the line once the modem has trained should not be present, so you may either require an additional filter on each affected phone (Some devices such as Call Switches do require them) or there may be a degraded cable somewhere presenting the higher frequency noise as a tone closer to what can be heard over the phone, or Transmit Powers could be rather high.
Some older lines in my area that have started to wear out exhibit white noise or electronic noise on the cabling just by nature. Newer cabling such as the ones I go through don't exhibit the white noise while DSL is running. if the noise is irritating and can be heard on the other end of the call as well, I'd certainly:
Check other phones
Check Filters
Try adding further filters
Analyze home wiring for any corrosion, lose connections, and dirty jacks.
Consider testing both phone and modem at your NID to see if this shows a lessened effect of what you're hearing. A line splitter will be needed for this as well as a corded phone.
Perhaps have Verizon run an MLT Test on your line to see if they can spot any highly resistive shorts through the test itself. (If found, tech gets dispatched to find it and fix it).
Consider a Home Run.
I have seen some very isolated issues where another type of DSL filter is needed, mainly on ADSL2+ lines. Might also be something to consider, getting a home run installed for your modem.
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New Wireless Router Shut Down the Phone Line

Just to clarify, I'm not the homeowner or the billpayer at the address that this post concerns. The home and phone belong to a relative who isn't particularly experienced in this sort of thing. She relative is away for the next two weeks, and I promised to try and figure out what was the problem.
A landline fault notice has been filed with BT, but I've been informed that they might not be able to make it out here until this coming Wednesday, so it would be convenient if I could troubleshoot it from my end and safe the technicians a trip.
My information on the issue is limited, having only briefly spoken with the relative about it. As I understand it, she upgraded her wireless broadband with Orange in order to attain speeds of 14MB and to have an unlimited data allowance. Upon recieving the new wireless router, she removed the previous one and correctly wired in the new one. Immediately after this, the landline and internet ceased to work. I've spent the last hour poking around and trying different phone ports in the house to no avail. The phones all say 'Check Phone Line'.
This is all extremely puzzling. I have no idea why plugging in a new router would cause the phone line to shut down. Does anyone have any insight into what might have caused this?

Flytch wrote:
I just went up to the 'main box' in the attic and plugged in an older phone. The line was still dead, which I guess means that whatever happened when the modem was plugged in happened outside the buildings.
Did you unplug the modem when you did the test in the main box?
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
BT Broadband customers - help with broadband, WiFi, networking, e-mail and phones.

How difficult can it be to get a phone line instal...

First of all, for a communications company, BT are shockingly bad at communicating with their customers!
We ordered a home move for our phone line and Infinity services back at the start of Dec, and had an activation date of 19th Dec. The engineer duly turned up on that date and set about the install. The single socket in our house was not where we wanted it (no power socket close by for the broadband router), but he would see about moving that and all was good so far.
However, the engineer was struggling to get a tone on the line and after much to-ing and fro-ing and calling another engineer who was nearby, decided that the actual wires to the house were damaged somewhere between 30m and 250m from the house and as he was not qualified to do any underground works, he was going to pass the job onto another engineer. The next engineer duly came next day (on a Saturday no less!) to get us up and running. No dice. The engineer could not find the break, and we would have to get a new cable put in.
Now, apparently when our house was built the telephone cable was not put in with any ducting and ended up being concreted into the wall! So we would have to get new ducting and the works installed. He then went to paint up the pavement where it needed to be dug up to put the ducting in etc. Except the pavement was covered in leaves, so he sprayed the leaves. Hey ho - I knew where he had painted and I would be able to direct the guys if necessary. As the was the Saturday before Xmas, he was doubtful if the contractors would be before the New Year. The engineer did however get the broadband connection available.
Roll on the New Year and it's a stoney silence from BT, until the morning of the 13th Jan, when a contractor appearred at the door to say he was here to put in the ducting. I pointed out where it was going and left them to it. I glanced out of the window after a while to see they had made a 2ft gap in the hedge at the wrong side of the garden! I also watch in disbelief as one of the guys loaded his wheel barrow with spoil and wheeled it into the woods across the road and dumped it. These guys were the "dig things up" gang, another team were the "filling in" team and they would be along shortly to fill in the hole and re-lay the tarmac on the pavement. However, we at least now have the ducting from the street the house with a rope in the duct to allow a cable to be pulled through. Progress of a fashion.
A few days later, the hole was filled in and the pavement tarred. It then took a full week before another engineer turned up to actually pull the wire through the ducting and connect us up. Except he couldn't because the rope was jammed. So he passed the job back to somebody else. Then 2 days later engineers 5 and 6 turned up with a rodding wire to free off the rope. They couldn't free it off. They did work out that the ducting was probably dislodged by the "filling in the hole" team, thus trapping the rope. This would need the pavement dug up again to reset the ducting. Oh joy.
So, imagine my surprise when another engineer turns up one morning to install our line to discover he couldn't pull the rope through, then another engineer turns up in the afternoon to do the same , followed by yet another engineer the next day!
Meantime, the only communication from BT on the whole matter is when we call them to be told it is all in hand and it will be completed "in 2 days time", or we receive a text message saying they tried to call (no missed calls), and would try to call again in 3 days, do not call them back.
So far in this saga we have had 13 people at the house, not getting us a phone line, in nearly 8 weeks and absolutely terrible communication from BT.
A call to BT at the end of last week resulted in a promise that we would be fully installed by yesterday at 8pm.
I called BT this morning to be told that the external works will be completed by this Friday and they would then call me back to arrange an appointment for the engineer to come and do the install next week!
The only saving grace is we do have an internet connection (pretty vital for me as I work from home!) although I do have an extension cable running across my hallway and we have not been getting charged for line rental for the past 2 months.
I was told today that we should be getting compensation, but to be honest I am not bothered about that - I JUST WANT A PHONE LINE INSTALLED!
Rant over (for now!)

Hi smert,
I am sorry about the delay in getting your phone line on. It definitely sounds like you have been going through the mill lately with all the work being done and still no phone line.
Please send me in your details using the "Contact The Mods" link found in my profile and we will take it from here.
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Moving a BT Infinity phone line

I have a Home Hub 5 with a BT Infinity line and the line enters the house on the ground floor at the main socket, where the router is currently located. Having just had building work done I want to move the socket upstairs but am not sure if the Home Hub will work off an extension lead from the main socket or whether some additional wiring is needed. Do BT still come out and move phone lines or is this a job that our electrician can do?

Hi nrt,
Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting, you'll need a data extension fitted as normal extension wiring can no carry the faster speeds. Check out BT Infinity Data Extension Kit and let me know if you want to organise this through BT.
Cheers
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14 weeks to get a phone line installed - £10 compe...

I moved house on 28/07 and after a huge amount of problems with Orange and after managing to cancel my account with them I ordered BT Broadband and Evening & Weekend Calls on 07/08/12.
I get 3 emails confirming my order, thanking me for choosing paperless billing etc.
My initial engineer appointment was on 14/09/12 which is 5 weeks and a long time. To quote BT: “It usually takes 15 working days from when you order. It can take longer but this is very rare.” (http://bt.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/8317/~/how-long-will-it-take-to-install-a-new-line%3F)
I get a text and an email on 12/07 to remind me of my appointment between 1pm and 6pm. So far so good.
The router gets delivered at 12.30am. This is promising.
The engineer comes at 13.30pm, installs the BT Open Reach box in my flat and then asks me if I can open the electronic gate next door as he needs access to my neighbour’s pathway to activate the distribution point. I tell him I cannot as it’s not my building. We try the trades button on the door system. It doesn’t work. We try pressing random house numbers on the door system (there’s no flat numbers on the building) to see if someone’s home. Nothing works. I phone my landlord who tells me this is a council building. No one is coming in and out of the building/gate. After about 30 minutes of trying and waiting I tell him just to use his ladder and climb over the gate (it’s about 6 foot) and activate the distribution point. I’ll take the blame if someone complains. It shouldn’t be a problem as I live next door, I’ve got a BT Open Reach engineer with me and we have a perfectly valid reason to do it. He tells me he can’t do that because of health and safety riles and trespassing laws. Fair enough.
The engineer leaves but before he does he tells me that when I’ve got access to the pathway BT would be able to send an engineer within 24 hours to activate the distribution point. He also tells me there is no need for me to be there the next time as all the work inside is completed and the only thing that needs to happen is for someone to activate the distribution point which is located on a wall on my neighbours building accessible from the pathway. He points it out to me and there is indeed a black box on the wall which can be reached using a ladder in the pathway.
I phone BT to see if anyone can find out how to get access to the pathway as I assume that if BT has installed a distribution point there they must have a way for them to get access to it. Especially as the engineer told me there are 3 lines in my building so this must have happened before. I was wrong. I have to argue with the customer service person with a very poor command of the English language for 30 minutes. He doesn’t know what “the council” is and doesn’t understand whatsoever why I –and I quote- “Can’t just ask the neighbour to let the engineer in when the next appointment has been made”. I try to explain to him there is an electronic metal gate with a call system and I am unable to call anyone as there are no flat numbers on the outside of the building and asked if he was suggesting that I wait all evening after work until someone comes out and that even then, surely I can’t ask my neighbour to stay home to let a BT engineer onto his pathway because I am trying to get a phone line installed. He then presented me with another option: “We can install a new line from the road but this is chargeable by £350”. After 30 minutes of this and asking to speak to a manager several times –which was refused- I had enough and hung up.
Determined to get the problem resolved I rang again and got someone else on the phone. She was quite sympathetic and advised me to phone the council and see if they can help. She confirmed that I didn’t need to be there for the next appointment if someone could give the engineer access to the distribution point as all the work apart from the distribution point activation was complete. By this time it was 4pm on a Friday and she promised to call back at 4pm on Monday.
I called the council right away but they said the caretakers had gone home as it was late on a Friday and advised me to ring back on Monday.
I get a text from BT: sorry we missed you appointment etc.
BT calls me on Monday morning 10.30am asking if I’ve sorted it. I tell the person I was expecting a call from them at 4pm and therefore I hadn’t rang the council yet. He promises to ring me back on Wednesday at 10.30am.
I call the council later that day; they’re not very helpful and advise me to call them again on Tuesday.
On Tuesday they log the call and lo and behold. Wednesday at 8.30am, the caretaker calls me, gives me his mobile number, tells me the trades button on the call system will work before 9.30am and they can give them access remotely. If they’re coming after 9.30am, the engineer needs to ring him an hour in advance and he’ll come to open the gate. We’re getting somewhere.
I don’t get a call on Wednesday 10.30am.
I call them myself that afternoon and explain the above. The guy says he’s written it all down, everything will get sorted and I’ll get a text with the new time and date.
Someone with a very poor command of the English language phones me on Thursday. I asked why she is ringing me. She says it’s to makes an engineer appointment. I tell her she doesn’t need to ring me as I don’t need to be in the property and they should all the information needed as I called them the day before. She doesn’t have a clue what I’m on about. I tell her to read out what she has on her screen under the notes as I now don’t trust that the person the day before has written it down properly. She once again doesn’t have a clue what I’m on about. I ask to speak to her manager. She says he’ll call me back. 5 minutes later he does. His English is excellent and he seems to have found the notes and knows exactly what’s going on. This is encouraging. He says the first appointment they have is 03/10 (it is now 20/09) but he’ll make sure they get it earlier and he’ll ring me back. The first person that hardly speaks English calls back. She says the appointment will be on 03/10 between 8am and 1pm. I tell her that her manager told me he was going to make sure it was going to be earlier and ask her why he lied to me. She doesn’t understand what I’m saying. I try to explain to her that trades button on the call system will work before 9.30am and they can give them access remotely but if they’re coming after 9.30am, the engineer needs to ring him an hour in advance and he’ll come to open the gate. She doesn’t understand what I’m saying. I ask her to get her manager to ring me back as he speaks English. She says he’ll call within 15 minutes. I get a text 5 minutes later confirming my appointment for 03/10 between 8am and 1pm.
On 02/10 I phone the caretaker in the morning to let him know they’re coming on 03/10 between 8am and 1pm. I also called BT once again to check everything was clear, confirming they have the correct mobile number of the caretaker etc. They say they have all the information needed and promise that the work will be done.
I phone on the afternoon of the 3rd to check the work had been done and I am told that it hasn’t as the engineer needs access to a flat roof and the caretaker can’t provide him with that. I explain that the original engineer had been on the flat roof already and told me they only needed to get through the gate to activate the distribution point so I don’t understand why they now need to get back on the roof. The roof can be accessed with a ladder (which they all standard have with them) from the pavement anyway so why do I need to be there? They tell me that the engineer has tried to call me but my phone was switched off. I am 100% sure that my phone has been on all day and I haven’t received any missed calls. Also, after all of the above, I wouldn’t switch my phone off on the crucial day. The engineer is lying. After being on the line for 15 minutes (as it takes at least 5 minutes to go through the automated menu every single time you call them and it literally takes a minute for the information to come up on their screen every time they need to access a file) that I don’t have time to discuss this right now as I have an important teleconference with an overseas client and ask for someone to call me back that evening to discuss this as I am busy at work all day.
I receive a text 10 minutes later saying the next engineer appointment is 12/11 between 1pm and 6pm.
This is 14 (!!!) weeks after ordering the service. I phone back when I have a short break at work to discuss this and request a call back. Someone calls me back 5 minutes later and asked for my account information which I don’t have handy so I ask to hold on while I’m looking it up. She hangs up on me.
I stay late at work to write an email on the email form on the website with a watered down version of all of the above and I get a confirmation email that it’s arrived.
I get another text that evening at 8.40pm as well as an email saying -once again- that the next engineer appointment is 12/11 between 1pm and 6pm.
Someone calls me at 8.50pm saying that the next engineer appointment is 12/11. I tell him I know this as they’ve sent me 2 texts and an email already and that this date is unacceptable and ask to speak to his manager. He tells me I need to call the Order Management Department. I ask him what the number is. You’ve guessed it: 0800 0800 150.
Someone called Chris XXXXX calls me the morning after to discuss the email I’ve written the day before. He gives me the usual “Open Reach controls the engineers” story and tells me the appointment will not be earlier than 12/11. I tell him this is unacceptable and if the appointment can’t be moved forward I want some compensation for all the expense and inconvenience caused. He tells me that since I haven’t been billed yet I’m not eligible for any compensation but as a gesture of good will he will give me £10 which I’m normally not eligible for as this is only given to people whose engineer didn’t come on time. I try to explain that if the engineer would have called me as he said he’s done (and not lied like he’s done) I could have explained where the distribution point was and I probably even would have rushed home from work to finally get it sorted. We argue a bit about compensation in which he tells me he’s already doing me a favour by giving me £10. I stop the argument to discuss more practical issues and ask him if I now need to be home on 12/11. He says I do. I now need to take another day off work it seems. I ask him if the caretaker needs to be there as well. He says he does. I ask him if I should invite anyone else and provide tea and biscuits for everyone. I don’t think he gets the joke. We argue a bit more about compensation, we get nowhere. I’m now getting upset. He says he’ll call me back at 1.30pm.
He does and immediately I ask him for his direct phone number. He says he doesn’t have one. I ask him for his email address. He says he doesn’t have one. I ask how to get in touch with him. He says through the 0800 call centre or the form on the website. Now the line gets really bad and gets disconnected. There is nothing wrong with my mobile or signal, I have 5 bars and 3G showing but I can’t hear him and the line gets disconnected. This happens 2 more times. I get him back on the phone and I ask him to call me back on my work landline. He does and a number shows up on the phone (not the 0800 one that showed up when he called my mobile). I immediately write it down and tell him he just lied to me about not having a direct line. He says it’s a desk used by many people. I tell him that if I ring that number and he’s around there’s chance I could get to speak to him surely. He says it’s only used for outgoing calls. I haven’t tried to ring it and can’t be bothered to be honest. I stop this argument and bring the conversation back to compensation. I ask if he can at least give me a few extra months free or upgrade my account for free for a few months maybe by throwing in some telly or something. He says he can’t do that and they can review compensation once the line has been installed. I tell him that’s not good enough and that this whole story is going online and hang up.
Worst customer service I’ve ever experienced and it seems that I’m stuck with it because I’ve already got an appointment and cancelling and going with another provider will result in an even longer wait.
I’ve been offered £10 compensation for taking 2 days of work, hours on the phone, massive mobile phone bills, a lot of stress and 14 weeks without a landline or internet. Truly unbelievable.

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I am sorry to see you are having problems with your BT Service
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They are a UK based BT specialist team who have a good record at getting problems solved
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New phone line and broadband, massive noise margin...

Hi, being a long time DSL stalwart a recent move to a new property has meant I've needed to switch over to ADSL instead and thus far it's proving to be a bit of a mare!
I waited a month for the initial installation engineer who promptly never showed anyway, no bother I thought, the hub turned up and I installed it myself and it promptly didn't work It soon became pretty apparent that the phone line was completely dead even from the test socket. A few phone calls later and the phone line is working much to my delight. The broadband is another story though, initially it still couldn't connect but later in the day it managed to get going. However it's excruciatingly slow with an average of 20 to 30kps throughput and substantial packetloss. Also worth noting is that in this new property, only the master socket actually works, this place has 4 other sockets dotted around all of which appear to be dead, could these be part of the issue? Does using the test socket completely cut these out and rule out bad wiring? Just to add, at 13 hours connected the adsl status is pretty much the same and I couldn't notice anything on the BT line noise test number.
I'm not familar with the workings on ADSL lines but I'm guessing the root of the problem is down to a wildly varying noise margin both up and down. Down fluctuates between ~2 and 20 within a matter of seconds and up gives some numbers that defy belief. Now the line was originally activated on Wednesday, actually kicked into life sometime on Friday and the router has been connected for 13 hours now, whilst it's still early days and things should bed in more, I assume I'm right in thinking I should be alarmed at how bad a line I'm starting out with? And should I be directing my ire at the builders or BT?
Any help and suggestions will be hugely appreciated!
Cheers!
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as it is a newbuild is the master socket inside your home or outside like this
connecting to the test socket will eliminate all your extension sockets and should be your best connection. if you are not in the test socket could you try it and post new stats please
with your attenuation I would expect a connection speed of about 18mb when you get this fiixed
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ADSL problems - Slow - Noise on phone line

Hi, Im hoping someone can help me with Broadband issues I've been having. Ill try and describe the salient points without turning into a rant. Suffice to say Ive had a torrid time over 2 weeks, spending hours on the phone to maybe 15+ different call centre staff and relaying information back and forth between them and 3 different engineers.
Ive recently moved house and about a month before the move I arranged for an 8Mb ADSL connection to be ready for me when we moved in. I was assured that I would definitely have service on this date which was important to me as I am a self employed web designer and rely on an internet connection for my work.
We moved on 11th this month, I plugged the router in and it couldn't connect (orange/purple flashing light on HomeHub 3). After talking to various people at the BT Broadband call centre over a period of a few days, going through basic troubleshooting numerous times it was eventually decided that an engineer be sent. He found the problem relatively quickly, the exchange hadn't been set up for my connection. He set up the connection at the exchange and left with me being able to connect.
I quickly realised that the speeds were very slow (around 0.7Mbps). I left it for 24hrs but no improvement. It also worried me was that I could hear noise on the phone line. The noise is only there when the broad band is connected, a steady fuzzy static. You can also hear the modem on the router dial occasionally like the old school dial up connections. I again phoned the call centre, again went through basic trouble shooting (plugging directly into test socket, different filters, connect computer into router via cable and not wifi etc etc….), and again eventually got another engineer sent.
The new engineer changed my Home Hub 3 for a Home Hub 4, decided nothing else could be wrong at the house end so went to the exchange. He phoned from the exchange explaining that he had sorted the problem (I can’t remember what he said he did as it was beyond my understanding). I was suspicious that the situation hadn’t been resolved though because I still had noise on the line and 24 hrs later I also had my connection drop to 0.13Mbps.
More phoning to call centre folk and eventually engineer no.3 was sent. I have to say he seemed very thorough, changed the master socket (which he told me the previous 2 engineers should have done) and spent a long time doing various tests. It seemed the problem was fixed since after changing the socket there was no noise on the line. The connection eventually recovered after an SNR and IP profile reset to about 2.5Mbps.
The next day though there was again noise on the line. Some crackles at first but later turning into the constant fuzzy noise that I was hearing before. The speed steadily deteriorated everytime the router was re-synching during training and is now 0.97Mbs and I guess on its way down further since the noise is now quite loud. The engineer was kind enough to ring back to check up on the case and when he heard the issue he insisted that it was almost certainly a phone line fault and that I should call 151 to arrange for someone to come out.
Ive spent today being passed to and fro between the phone line department and the broadband department. The broadband department also tell me they think the phone line department should deal with the issue but then the phone line department say there is no problem when they do a remote test so pass me back to the Broadband department. Eventually after speaking to 5 different people today it has been decided that I should have my 4th Broadband Engineer visit me on Monday.
To my limited knowledge and reading on these forums it seems the issue is likely to be a line fault, so it’s frustrating that it’s possible the wrong person might be being sent and the problem will continue.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, as I mention the connection is very important to me.
ADSL Line stats from my Home Hub 4:
Connected Connection time: 0 days, 03:00:05
Downstream: 1.313 Mbps
Upstream: 448 Kbps
BTWholesale Speedtest:
Download speed achieved during the test was - 0.96 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 0.2 Mbps-1 Mbps.
Additional Information:
Your DSL Connection Rate :1.34 Mbps(DOWN-STREAM), 0.45 Mbps(UP-STREAM)
IP Profile for your line is - 1 Mbps

Obviously you need to get rid of the line noise problem before your internet connection will improve. Normally the advice is to phone 151 and report a phone fault with no mention of broadband. You really now need to wait until monday to see if this engineer visit solves your noise problem
if after the engineer visit there is no improvement then the mods may be able to help
as this is a residential line and is not supposed to be used for business purposes maybe you should consider a business line which gives a better service contract especially as you are self employed
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Broadband drops out & noisy phone lines.

Hi,
Not sure whether this needs to be posted here or in the phone section as both areas are effected.
My property is pretty old and the internal phone sockets/wiring is also quite dated. I've always had issues with my phone lines being very noisy to the point where i have simply done away with having a house phone (not ideal).
I use my internet for many hours every day - its an essential part of my life and income. I had a new internal socket fitted about 2 or 3 years back exclusively for my internet use to help improve the connection which had been fine until recently.
I had new windows fitted which required the socket to be moved & ever since then my connection has been unreliable and drops out.
Ive reported the fault on the line earlier today and am waiting to hear back off BT but thought i'd post here in the mean time.
I use a Belkin router and have spoken to them but they were unable to help. After running a few tests they said it was most likel a phone line fault. I have also tried a different router and experienced exactly the same issues.
How do i go about identifying the fault & getting it fixed? With it likely being an internal fault, is it likely to cost me money? What are the terms & conditions with this type of problem?
Also, how would i go about getting new sockets installed in my house so i could get a working house phone? How much is this likely to cost?
Thanks for any advice.

was the new socket you had fitted like this if so any extension sockets in your home should be connected to the back of the bottom half of the socket NTE5. It may be that moving the socket has moved some of the wires and they are loose.
BT are responsible for the wiring up to the first socket in your where the cable comes in from outside. if the problem is found to be your internal wiring after the master socket then you will be charged at least £130
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Why do I have to move my phone line from Sky to BT...

I have just spent the last 14 days trying to move my broad band from BT to Sky, I was told by Sky that I have to have a new phone number and as I was getting loads of unwanted phone call I thought that it would be a good Idea. So any way I ordered a new number and broadband with sky.
Any way to cut a 14 day long story short, Sky cannot provide me with Broadband due to incompatible technology, so I really do not have any other option other than to come back to helpful BT. Just phone BT up to order my BB to be told that they cannot help me unless I move my phone number back to BT..........
When questioned about this I was told that "I have to have both phone line and Broadband with BT"......... NO I DO NOT, in February 2012 I moved my phone line to Sky and my Broadband staied with BT, as there was a problem switching it over, little did I know then what I know now.
So could someone from BT 'in the know' please tell me why I have to move my phone line back to BT

sorry mate.
Hadn't heard about TPON lines before today.
Doing a quick google search, found this:
"TPON stands for Telephony over Passive Optical Network
TPON was a method used by BT (now Openreach) mainly in the 1980s and early 1990s to deliver phone lines to new build areas where there wasn't enough existing copper capacity available. This decision was made before ADSL was envisaged, and as ADSL requires a copper pair route between customer and exchange, this means customers in TPON areas are currently unable to receive ADSL."
Hope all is sorted soon.
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Waiting since August 2010 for a phone line! HELP!...

I ordered a phone line and broadband for a NSP Non Served Premises) back in August 2010. I am so fed up with the so many attempts to get us a phone line. Open reach say it's an easy job yet no-one treats us as human beings. I have an operation in January and so worried about being left on my own on our farm without a land line. Do BT care? ! No!
There have been so many booked times for engineers to come but they have never come out. Today I spoke to the manager who said "I have done nothing" in reference to helping us out. He is waiting for open reach to "progress" the order. Why can't someone pick up a phone and stop messing us about.
I have sent a letter giving 10 days to get the phone line up and then going through OFCOM and OTELLO. Anyone else having similar problems?
Can anyone point us in the right direction? I have been given no further information but told to wait for the order to progress. It won't as there is something wrong with the system ie the last 7 or 8 attempted orders have messed up yet they still seem to be trying to go down the faulty route! Banging my head against a brick wall.............

Hi angdown,
Welcome to the forum, sorry to hear you've had so many problems with your order.
I can take a look at your order and confirm what's going on, you can get in touch by emailing in your BT forum username and your order number/address to the email address registered against my profile, and we'll get back to you.
Thanks,
Stephanie
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Trouble getting my phone line connected

My saga to date....
I contacted BT on 20th April to advise them that I was moving home on 29th April (to a newly built house). An engineer was arranged to come to my home on 10th May to carry out the connection. Prior to the 10th May, I had a visit from an engineer to assess the job. My house has been built in an older part of a village which still relies on telephone poles and lines going from the poles in to houses. During one of these visits, it was noted that I would need a pole placed in my garden to connect the line to, then the line would be connected from there. The reason behind this was due to the fact that my house is built low down, and to take a wire straight from the main pole would make it slope too low. I was quite happy with the solution put forward, and was happy that things seemed to be in hand. At no point was I told that the work would not go ahead on the 10th May.
This is when the problems start.......
I feel that I am living in the dark ages again. I have no phone line, hence no Internet access and do not get a mobile signal in the area I now live in! I rely on travelling to my daughters' house to use their phone and Internet access, which is not convenient.
The 10th of May came and went, and nobody appeared at the house, and I received no communication that work would not be carried out on this date. I phoned BT, and yes, I was talking to a call centre in India. When the operator finally grasped the issue that the engineer had not appeared she checked with her suppliers to inform me that there was a problem and that this would be assessed by the 14th May. BT would then advise me on the 15th what the next stage would be. Unhappy with this, I was eventually put through to the supervisor (waited 40 minutes on hold!). Got no joy from him, but the promise he would personally contact me on 15th. I had to accept this and hung up.
On Monday 13th May, I went online to check the progress of my order, only to note that my latest BT bill was ready. When I checked the bill, I noted that BT had started to bill me for my phone and broadband package from 10th May!. Blood pressure steadily rising, I contacted BTs billing department, yes once again an Indian call centre, to complain. Got the standard script from the operator - very sorry etc. During this conversation, it was realised that BT had the wrong postcode in for my house (it was the correct street, but the post code for odd numbered houses). The operator, against my pleas not to do so, cancelled my order, and set up a new order for the correct postcode. She assured me that she knew what she was doing and not to worry, everything would be fine (I had explained the saga to date to her). She set up a brand new account, allocating a different phone number, and requiring me to set up new direct debits - I'm not sure how she couldn't just change the postcode for my original account. A new connection appointment was for 21st May, and I was assured that there would be no problems I would be connected on this date.
The 15th of May came and went, and no phone call from the Indian call centre manager. I did not call back at this time, as a new appointment had been scheduled.
The 21st came, and an engineer did appear - hooray! He looked at the house and told me - I cannot do your connection. A pole is needed to run a the line to. He was able to tell me that my number had been set up in the exchange. I was more than a little angry and frustrated at this point. BT knew that a pole was required back on 6th May - why had this information not been dealt with!
Again I phoned BT, back to the Indian call centre. Explained the whole saga. He checked with his 'suppliers' to find out what was going on. Came back to tell me that further information would be available the next day. I was getting a little annoyed at the point. I explained that the work required was to erect a pole in my garden to run the line to. All I wanted was a date for when this work would be carried out. He could not give me this info saying his suppliers would not give this until the next day. I asked who the suppliers were - BT Open Reach, but he would not let me speak to them directly. He promised to phone me back the following day with the update - probably to get me off the phone. I again explained that I had no means to which he could contact me in my own home, and would require to go to my daughters house to receive the call. He agreed to phone me back at 10am on 22nd May - a time when I would go to my daughters. Yes, once again they failed to phone back!!
I again phoned back - yes back to India I went. Asked to speak with the manager - but the operator would not connect me saying he could help. Went through the saga once more - again got the text book apologies (which are getting rather annoying now). He contacted the 'suppliers' and promised that contact would be made with me within 24hours by the engineer with regards to the work being carried out. I told him that I had been lied to on so many occasions that I didn't believe that this was the case and asked to speak to BT Openreach to confirm this. He stated that this could not be done. Trust him, why would he lie to me - which I told him would be to get me off the phone. I left my daughters phone number as a contact.
24hours has now passed, and yes - once again no contact. I cannot face talking to another operator in an Indian call centre who will tell me anything to get off the phone. BT's complaints procedure is pathetic. I feel totally helpless in this. There doesn't seem to be any communication between anyone in the company. The call centre staff are telling you anything just to get rid of you. I suspect that I am now being billed on 2 accounts for a service I don't have, and no doubt will be another saga when I eventually get a working phone line.
I am no further forward to when this work will be getting carried out, and getting more and more frustrated. Is there any suggestions on where / who I can go to.
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Hi
I am sorry to see you are having problems
I suggest you contact the forum mods they should be able to get this problem sorted for you this is a link to them http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951
They normally reply by email or phone directly to you within 3 working days they will take personal ownership of your problem until resolved and will keep you informed of progress
They are a UK based BT specialist team who have a good record at getting problems solved
This is a customer to customer self help forum the only BT presence here are the forum moderators
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How long does a new phone line take to fit? Patien...

I ordered a new phone line in April and was given a date of 1st May 2013 for the engineer to call.
Having booked a day off work for the 1st May I got a text the evening before to advise that extra work was required on the lines outside my home and that they would be in touch soon. On 17th May I got another text to advise that my order for telephone and broadband had been CANCELLED. I phoned and a new order was placed (with a half-hearted apologies for the incorrect cancellation).
Text: 20th May. Apologies for the delay in booking an appointment.
Text 21st May: BT here. Your phone service is ready for you. You can find a phone's number by calling 17070 from it.
I did not not have a phione line.
Text: 30th May. To advise a new number.
Text: 30th May: Apologies for the delay in booking an appointment. Due to necessary additional engineering work. Next update will be 6th June.
Text: 5th June: BT here. Just to confirm you've set up online billing with BT, If you didn't please let us know at ... I didn't set anything up as far as I know.
6th June: Apologies for the delay in providing your service. No updates. Escalated the lack of infpormation and hope to have more news tomorrow.
7th June: Apologies for the delay on your order. I can confirm that we are awaiting the outcome of our escalation with our suppliers and are confident of haveing (sp) and (sp) update for you on 11/6.
Now, I am quite a patient person but I need a landline. I live 60 metres or so from a Post Office and even less from a main road. I can see a telephone pole from my back garden just 50 metres away. My neighbours have landlines. Why can't I have one?
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Hi
I am sorry to see you are having problems
I suggest you contact the forum mods they should be able to get this problem sorted for you this is a link to them http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4951
They normally reply by email or phone directly to you within 3 working days they will take personal ownership of your problem until resolved and will keep you informed of progress
They are a UK based BT specialist team who have a good record at getting problems solved
This is a customer to customer self help forum the only BT presence here are the forum moderators
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