Routers that work with iChat AV?

Since Apple's list of approved routers hasn't been updated for years, I would love to hear from anyone who has purchased a router recently that works with iChat for audio/video, including any special setting changes/tips. Could anyone with a success story post here? I'm tired of the error 8 messages which in at least some cases seems to be router related.

@stevesol
I have used the DI-604 for about 5 years now. It is a great and cheap router/firewall. The only problem that I have ever had was an odd one. I have a mac pro. i have an external amp that I use for playing my music through. I had a cable run from the rear audio out to the amp. After the last firmware update (mac pro EFI firmware update 1.1) I could not use ichat anymore. If I bypassed the router and went straight to the modem then all was fine. It turned out that there was a major conflict with my setup using the router and rear audio out port but if i used the front headphone jack everything was fine. Other than that the DI-604 is very good. I open port 5190 on the router and have good results. If you are not sure how to open up ports then check out this site. It shows to open up a whole pile of ports but the 5190 port works fine for me.
http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Dlink/DI-604/iChat.ht m
I would also recommend this fine site from one of the other posters. Ralph Johns site is excellent
http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/page2.html
and of course what Apple has to say about their firewall
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93208

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    Replaces iCh: FAQ 2 How to get my router to work with iChat?
    Getting your router started with iChat.
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    kichat: FAQ 2 - How to get my router to work with iChat? December 2008 version 3
    (Note to Hosts. to be removed on acceptance. Please use this to replace http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=121775 )
    Getting your router started with iChat.
    Appropriate for using iChatAV 2 upwards. Edits have been made for iChat 4
    Glossary for this FAQ
    Routers: Any configurable device that sits between your computer and the internet link you have. This includes Modems that Route as well as "routers"
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