Routing not Exchanged

Morning all,
I have two rev D MI424WR routers connected to one another via LAN Coax. I can obtain NTP successfully from the router that has the broadband connection, however the secondary router says its still waiting forresponse from NTP server. This tells me that routing between the two is not working properly, as the secondary router should be able to send traffic to the primary router, and then it would be passed out to the Internet.
Do I need to configure the secondary router to allow for routing information to be exchanged successfully?
Thanks,
Steve
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Here's how I see this issue. If the second router is able to allow other devices to transfer data across the network via the main router, there isn't anything wrong with the second router. I don't know how the ActionTec is set up when it comes down to NTP, and if it spends time trying to find other routes to an NTP server but I'm pretty sure this is just a problem due to the fact that it might be trying to use the MoCa WAN or Ethernet WAN port to search for an NTP server. Since those interfaces (OS-wise) are clearly down and that router technically isn't holding any sort of IP address besides it's own, the process is ultimately failing. I've seen it happen on many routers repurposed as access points/switches that attempt to search for NTP servers over the WAN Port.
You'll want to try messing with static routes to allow only the second router to reach an NTP server if at all possible, while having the second router not perform any form of routing function. Something like telling localhost traffic to go out on whichever interface the router is connected to the main network, and tying in information such as IP and Subnet mask of where it needs to go might work.
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