Routing Quicktime synth audio into Logic

Does anybody know how to route the Quicktime synthesizer's built in GM sound module's audio output back into Logic so it can be included in a bounce down mix ?

Sure, first open Jackrouter from your application folder or drag it into your dock.
Hit the start button. Open Logic and chose Jack router as your device. Open the application you want to route into Logic (like Quicktime/iTunes whatever) and select Jack Router as Standard Input/Output in the Audio Midi setup of your Mac. Back in Jackrouter hit the routing button - menue opens. On the left there are the send port, so in my screenshot example I have chosen Kontakt 3 standalone to be routed into Logic but it could be Quick Time/itunes whatever. I selected Jack Router as the output device in Kontakt as well, now I click on K3 in the send port section and on the right I double click on Logic as the receive ports, the Logic letters turn red to indicate that a connection was made.
If you connect the Logic send ports to the system receive ports and activate software monitoring you will hear what you record into Logic through Jack Router. So I think this little app is very useful in many situations.

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