RS232 serial port or 98SE on M105S3041

I need RS232 to communicate with my CNC mill.
I purchased and installed a PCMCIA Serial I/O card but I can't make a serial mouse work. Running XPsp3. Do I have to disable the touchpad? I expected it would work like my M645S4070: plug in a USB mouse, turn off the touchpad, and then the USB mouse is the sole active mouse.
I installed 98SE on the same machine (M105S3041). 512mb RAM. The MS flag banner comes up, and that's as far as it'll go. Anything else I need to do?
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Yes, M645-S4070 is replacement for the M105, as WinXp is no longer supported. I took screenshots on the M105, and sent them to a flash drive to transfer to M645. When I asked to Safely Remove Hardware, I see that the flashdrive is there, and
"CH352 =>PCI SERIAL&&PARALLEL" is also listed.
You say
In Device Manager, double-click the device to open Properties. On the Details tab what does it have for Hardware Ids? Copy the longest line. It looks something like this.
I reply
The longest line is
PCIWEN_104C&DEV_8039&SUBSYS_FF001179&REV_00
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AKA_TG wrote:
Just passing by but I gotta say
Guyts who answer like that do really irritate me
Someone oughta apologize to the porr guy trying to get some help here.
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As I allready suggested you here, call your local NI Office and ask for assistance!
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