RS232-to-USB converter
I have an electronic which is connected to either RS-232 serial or USB. Since the electronic cable has a RS-232 adapter, I have to use RS232-to-USB converter to make it compatible with USB port. My LabView application runs well with RS-232 port but doesn't work with USB port. The problem is that, if I use my own laptop which has LabView 7.1 installed, the problem disappears. The electronic works well with both rs-232 and USB. However, the problem appears again in other computers regardless of its version (I tried XP and 2000). I installed NI-VISA and NI-Serial. I surely checked serial port & I/O support when making an installation file. None of the methods has solved my problem yet. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Hello,
I have a few questions, the answers to which may help you and clarify the problem:
1. Can you connect directly to your computer via rs-232... do you need to use the USB port?
2. When you say, "My LabView application runs well with RS-232 port but doesn't work with USB port." what specifically do you mean? Do you get an error? If so, what error? Can you attach a screenshot of the behavior?
3. When you plug the USB-RS-232 converter into your PC, do you have access to the RS-232 resource at all? For example, if you select, Start -> Programs -> National Instruments -> VISA -> VISA Interactive Control do you see the RS-232 resource there? Can you perform a loopback test (to do this wire pins 2 and 3, and simply write and read to that serial port)?
4. Do you have any NI Serial HW products? You won't need NI-Serial installed simply to communicate with built in serial ports (or in your case a USB-RS-232 device, which should show up as an RS-232 serial port); NI-VISA will be sufficient.
Thanks and I look forward to your repost!
Best Regards,
JLS
Best,
JLS
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make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/lib/modules/3.14.4-1-ARCH/build'
HOSTCC scripts/basic/fixdep
HOSTCC scripts/kconfig/conf.o
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make ( your cp210x driver )
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