RS480M2 - Cool'n'Quiet fan control fails after hibernation

I'm using my RS480M2 as a HTPC base.
Works great (integrated s-video out is NICE!)
Cool'n'Quiet works great when the system is booted normaly but efter hibernation the fans doesn't reduse speed.
Anyone knows anything to fix this?
Maybe disable Qool'n'Quiet fan control i bios and use speedfan instead?
My current config
WinXP Pro SP2
Latest reference drivers for Chipset/Graphics from ATi
Latest reference drivers for sound and LAN from Realtek
Athlon64 3200+ (90nm winchester core)
2x512Mb twinmos DDR400 cl 2,5
60Gb 2,5" Hitachi HDD
Any Ideas?

I always use speedfan in the BIOS and leave C&Q enabled.
As C&Q does more then regulating the fan, it also regulates the speed of the CPU.
But you can remove corecenter for fancontrol and use speedfan in the BIOS.

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i recently upgraded to 2.6.37 (on a hp nx6325 laptop) and noticed the following behaviour after a resume from pm-suspend:
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I have the same problem with 2.6.37.1-1: suspend do not work.
The sceen goes blank then returns to X. The log shows the followings:
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug)
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk
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Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: legacy_suspend(): pnp_bus_suspend+0x0/0xa0 returns -62
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: PM: Device 00:03 failed to suspend: error -62
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: PM: Some devices failed to suspend
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.104 (2008-07-01 00:50:23)
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: ------------[ cut here ]------------
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: WARNING: at drivers/base/power/main.c:106 device_pm_add+0xb6/0xc0()
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Hardware name: HP Compaq 6715b (GB835EA#AKC)
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Device: misc
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Parentless device registered during a PM transaction
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Modules linked in: fuse ipv6 vboxnetflt vboxdrv snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event loop snd_seq arc4 ecb radeon b43 ttm drm_kms_helper mac80211 snd_pcm_oss drm snd_mixer_oss joydev snd_hda_codec_analog ssb tpm_infineon i2c_algo_bit cfg80211 hp_wmi mmc_core sparse_keymap tg3 ppdev rfkill snd_hda_intel parport_pc libphy pcmcia snd_hda_codec snd_usb_audio snd_pcm ohci_hcd yenta_socket pcmcia_rsrc pcmcia_core firewire_ohci snd_hwdep tpm_tis snd_usbmidi_lib hp_accel lis3lv02d i2c_piix4 video tpm snd_timer firewire_core evdev ehci_hcd snd_rawmidi crc_itu_t serio_raw snd_page_alloc tpm_bios output wmi input_polldev thermal battery lp sg ac container usbcore i2c_core button fan snd_seq_device shpchp parport edac_core edac_mce_amd snd pci_hotplug psmouse soundcore k8temp cpufreq_ondemand powernow_k8 freq_table processor mperf ext4 mbcache jbd2 crc16 sd_mod sr_mod cdrom ahci libahci pata_atiixp pata_acpi libata scsi_mod
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Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Call Trace:
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff81056a1a>] warn_slowpath_common+0x7a/0xb0
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff81056af1>] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x41/0x50
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812b8596>] device_pm_add+0xb6/0xc0
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812aea8e>] device_add+0x4ae/0x5c0
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812aebb9>] device_register+0x19/0x20
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812aed53>] device_create_vargs+0x193/0x1b0
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812aed9c>] device_create+0x2c/0x30
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff813a5fc1>] ? mutex_lock+0x11/0x30
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff8129a3fa>] misc_register+0x8a/0x140
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff8129d36f>] hwrng_register+0xdf/0x170
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa0426ab0>] b43_wireless_core_init+0xdb0/0x11a0 [b43]
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa02d89e0>] ? wiphy_resume+0x0/0x90 [cfg80211]
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa0427068>] b43_op_start+0x1c8/0x1e0 [b43]
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa02d89e0>] ? wiphy_resume+0x0/0x90 [cfg80211]
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa0477a15>] ieee80211_reconfig+0x335/0x400 [mac80211]
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa02d89e0>] ? wiphy_resume+0x0/0x90 [cfg80211]
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Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffffa02d8a55>] wiphy_resume+0x75/0x90 [cfg80211]
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812b7ebe>] legacy_resume+0x3e/0x80
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812b8025>] device_resume+0x125/0x130
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff812b8192>] dpm_resume_end+0x102/0x3a0
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Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff810965d0>] enter_state+0x120/0x150
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff81095b16>] state_store+0xc6/0x100
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff811f3c27>] kobj_attr_store+0x17/0x20
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff8119f37f>] sysfs_write_file+0xcf/0x150
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff81135ac6>] vfs_write+0xc6/0x190
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff81135ddc>] sys_write+0x4c/0x80
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: [<ffffffff8100bed2>] system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: ---[ end trace 19e4cbd37086936d ]---
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: PM: resume of devices complete after 1300.325 msecs
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: PM: Finishing wakeup.
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: Restarting tasks ... done.
Feb 21 15:50:33 localhost kernel: video LNXVIDEO:00: Restoring backlight state
And the solution on linux.kernel: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.ke … 616cfdb4a9
Revert or wait!
Or rmmod tpm_tis.
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Folks,
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Let the BIOS boot up in slow-mode (i.e. disable quick-boot in the BIOS).
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I have problem that in CoolNquiet K8T Neo AMD 64 3200 that the CPU fan runs as maximum all the time. Does your answer mean that if i set it to User Mode (at Low 1/8) when necessary it will still increase the CPU fan speed and then will reduce to the low level i.e. the user mode is not fixed.
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Hello
I have a problem with the Cool and Quiet feature on the K8N Neo2 Platinum (v1.3 bios).
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Strange that Corecenter would overclock your cpu to 3ghz. It's known to be unreliable software, but not that unreliable.
Are you running a stock 3500+, or are you overclocking the HTT/FSB beyond 200?
Previous posted was right about cool and quiet software. You don't need corecenter to run it. Just stay away from corecenter and even uninstall it
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1.5V, 11x
1.4V, 10x
1.3V, 9x
1.1V, 5x
Your 3500+ might be similar. Anyway, just run cpu-z instead of corecenter to watch your cpu speed changing on the fly.
As far as fan speeds go: the cool and quiet driver doesn't affect fan speeds. That means to get the "quiet" part of "cool and quiet" you need either
(a) a fan that has a temperature sensor and which automatically changes its speed based on that, or
(b) just use the motherboard BIOS setting to do the same via bios software.
(c) use speedfan to do the same via windows software.
I myself prefer (b) but it depends on the bios accurately reporting temperature, which can vary wildly between bios releases (e.g. newcastles didn't start getting accurate temp reports until bios 1.4).

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Try below:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ae910269-3a0c-4506-844b-e8bc89d95b71/data-source-control-failed-to-execute-the-insert-command
http://blog.jussipalo.com/2012/01/sharepoint-2010-data-source-control.html
While there can be many causes for this generic error message, in my case the first parameter or ddwrt:DataBind function inside the SharePoint:FormFields element was
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Your RPM and temperature readings seem perfectly normal to me.
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Hello and welcome.
When you've searched the internet and found this thread, it's possible that you are an owner of a Lenovo Ideapad S10 or S10e which has a little problem with the behaviour and/or the noise of the fan. In this post you will get all the informations you need to handle this problem for yourself. It should also be the same on every S9/S9e.
Just a few comments before we begin:
This is not an official support or solution by Lenovo.
We are just normal users as you are, but we get rid of the fan and wanted to find a way to handle it. So if you want to try anything of the methods described here you have to know that you'll do all this only at your own risk. We are not responsible for any damages of your device. You should only use these methods if you know what you are doing.
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Here you may post all of your questions, ideas/brainstorming, concerns, thanks and so on and you are really invited to participate and be an active member.
In this first part of this post I'm going to summarize all information about using a fan control utility. For any newbie it will be enough to read this post to get all necessary information. The second part does the same for developement of fan control utilities as we still have no known or working fan control utility for Linux, Mac OS X and other OSs I've forgotten - for now.
For getting started you need a S10 or S10e with an up-to-date BIOS. For the S10 it's the 90 67, for the S10e the 66.
The battery issue
Under very specific circumstances - that we haven't figured out yet - it might happen that your Lenovo S9/10(e) no longer detects the battery while using S10FanControl or S10Fan. It might occur after 2 minutes, it might occur after 2 months, it might never occur. It does not occur using Notebook Hardware Control.
It can be solved by removing the battery, waiting 10 seconds and put it back in. Then the battery is re-initialized and the detection works again.
S10FanControl - Windows
The first utility is S10FanControl created by user dresslerc. The current version is 1.0.0.1, available here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/yd5xmnrnijf/S10FanCtrl1.0.0.1.zip. After you've downloaded it you just have to extract it and start the .EXE in the "Release" folder. Here are the notes and the description dresslerc posted right here:
Everyone,
I've uploaded a version which everyone can use to test with. Remember this is still a TEST version although I think it works for the most part. It should work both on the S10/S10e.
Please install the .NET Framework 2.0 or later first.
Then click here to download the exe: http://www.mediafire.com/?jlg2enkjdxn
Once downloaded, extract the files and hit hte S10FanCtrl.Exe. Once this program launches you should be able to control the fan. Keep in mind that if you lower the fan speed then it'll take upto 30 seconds before the S10 registers the change, so be patient.
I've only tested this on the latest BIOS 59. I am sure it will work on the 57 as well but the individual speeds might not work properly on that version. Please try it out and report back.
The only issue that I heard so far is that occasionally the fan will kick in regardless if in Manual/Smart Mode. Also the temp it shows may not be accurate. If you find any other issues please let me know what they are so I can attempt to fix them.
Once we have all the kinks worked out then I will release the source.
Heres a quick Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKl70ZgmFg
REMEMBER: USE PROGRAM AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES THIS PROGRAM MIGHT CAUSE.
Application Use:
BIOS Controlled - Fan is controlled by the BIOS
Smart Mode - Fan is controlled based on the conifguration in the options. You can set the threshold here at what temp you want the fan to kick in...
Manual - Fan is controlled manually by the slider.
If you want to have the program startup automatically, then place a shortcut of the app in the PROGRAM FILES -> STARTUP folder. Then you may want to go to the options and make the application minimize at startup.
Edit:
It seems there are some issues with the app and the S10e or previous BIOS versions. Will post a fix asap.
The source code for S10FanControl is available here: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7a3fb99d33817c08c2b435915e8821d7e04e75f6e8ebb871, written in Visual Basic .NET 2008.
S10Fan - Windows
The second utility is a tool written by user slash:
Hi guys,
Well it looks like Lenovo dropped this matter after all. Anyway, I have here another fan controller to add to the bunch. I have been using it for some time now without any problems. It is for both S10 and S10e.
What the program does is basically the same as others. The S10's fan speed is controlled according to the ACPI thermal zone temperature. By over writing the values which resides at offset 50h of the EC register at an appropriate timing, the ACPI thermal zone temperature is over ridden. The program is written in C and uses WinIo created by Sysinternals. The GUI version is available now.
It should be noted that the fan speed temperature thresholds differs with BIOS version. For 14CN67WW and 14CW90WW the fan changes speed at temperatures 60c, 65c, 70c, and 80c. Furthermore, the BIOS will automatically shutdown the S10 if the temperature reaches 90c.
The program has a fail safe mechanism that automatically disables itself if the actual ACPI thermal zone temperature goes above 85c. This allows the BIOS to regain control and the fan will work as intended by Lenovo. If the temperature drops below 85c the program will take over control again.
To run the program, you will need administrative privileges.
Known working BIOS versions: 14cn58ww, 14cn60ww, 14cn67ww, 14cn90ww
The program will work with any BIOS version as long as the BIOS uses the 50h EC register readouts to control the fan.
build 2009.05.24
Higher priorities for EC commands.
Usage: The program will run in the system tray. Double click or right click and use the menu to open the program. To determine the BIOS temperature thresholds, use the 'Setup' button. To run at boot time, place a short cut in the startup folder.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/njhz0icym2t/S10Fan.zip build 2009.05.23
Usage: S10Fan.exe
Added GUI.
build 2009.05.17
Usage: S10Fan.exe 60 65 70 80 70 75 80 85
S10Fan.exe test
The first 4 values are the BIOS temperature thresholds, the latter 4 are new thresholds that we want to over ride with. To determine the BIOS temperature thresholds, use the 'test' option.
build 2009.03.16
Usage: S10Fan.exe 70 75 80 85
-Slash
For updates and newer releases please check slash's post: http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=IdeaPad_Netbook&view=by_date_ascending&message.i...
Notebook Hardware Control - Windows
The third utility is a profile for Notebook Hardware Control. I've adapted it from a profile for the Lenovo N500 which I've found here: http://nhc.yourcopy.de/overview/. With the manual for creating the profiles that can be found here: http://www.notebook-treff.de/board/database/hilfsprogramme-f%C3%BCr-nhc/92-how-to-create-an-acpi-fil... I was able to change the ACPI commands to work on the S10(e).
Installation and setup is divided in two steps. The program Notebook Hardware Control (NHC) is available at http://www.pbus-167.com/. Install the program, but do not start it for now. Then you need my NHCConfig utility, available here: http://forum.eeepcnews.de/download/file.php?id=1476. It detects your model number and BIOS-version via WMI and writes a proper S10(e) profile to the NHC acpi directory. The GUI is German if you have a German Windows and English if not. Additional languages can be added.
After you've extracted the ZIP-file you have to start the nhcc.exe (requires .NET Framework 2.0). At first a message appears that you use the program at your own risk. Then you can choose if you want to apply your own settings (experts) or if you just want the program to run with my defaults (newbies). In the settings window you can see your system details on the left, you can set up your thresholds in the middle and you can set the fan speed you want on the right. Then click on execute.
Now start NHC. Go to the "Settings" tab and click on "Show all NHC options and settings". Then a few more tabs appear. Go to the "ACPI" tab and check if the "ACPI Control System" is running (if everything works, the message "ACPI Control System running" will appear, otherwise it says "ACPI control system is not yet configured for this system"). Now click on "Show ACPI Control System details".
Here you can change the temperature values the fan control depends on (the settings from NHCC are the default values). On the bottom of the window you can see the "Current CPU temperature". That is the value you have to deal with. In general it has a value of around 60°C. In the middle you can see four user editable temperature values. You can leave the values as they are if everything works. The on/off values are responsible for the temperatures at which the fan starts running and stops again after cooling the device. The level values are responsible for the fan speed, for example you can set the off_level higher to let the fan run all the time at the lowest level, if the values do not fit for your device or whatever.
You can switch between NHC and BIOS control by disabling or enabling the "ACPI Control System" or by closing NHC.
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With every utility it is possible that it takes some time until you see an effect after you've started the program. Any failure of the programs should be no big problem because the only thing that should happen is that the BIOS controls the fan. Another issue that might occur due to the way the fan is controlled is that the fan may start running for a very short time and it looks like the fan control has lost control. The fan should stop immediately or at least after a few seconds.
Keep in mind that running the S10(e) with a fan control means that the S10(e) has to deal with higher temperatures. That could mean that the device will not last for 10 years but only 9 years (who uses a netbook so long...?). In every case you need a tool for monitoring your cpu temperature. We know that especially Core Temp 0.99.5 and Real Temp 3.00 do a very good job. That is important because the temperature values you need to set up the fan control are different from the values reported by the cpu sensor, they are between 15°C and 20°C higher. A normal temperature reported by the monitoring should be around 40°C, with the NHC default values the fan starts running at 52°C and stops at 38°C.
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END using fan control
BEGINNING developing fan control
Controlling the S10(e)'s fan is a litte bit difficult because it looks like there is no way to control it directly. But it is possible to manipulate the temperature the BIOS fan control depends on. As long as the built-in fan control thinks that the cpu is cool enough the fan stays off. And that is exactly the point where we can attack.
The fan control depends on a field called RTMP in the memory of the embedded controller. It can be accessed via "_SB.PCI0.LPCB.EC0.ERAM", the offset of RTMP is 0x50 (hex) or 80 (dec). It is a direct I/O read/write. The complete NHC command for reading the value is: ACPI.FIELD.ReadByOffset("_SB.PCI0.LPCB.EC0.ERAM", ref value, 0x50, 8) with "value" as the variable which gets the value.
What program logic do you need? You need a timer or something else that conducts an always-refresh cycle. It sounds very easy: You read the value, manipulate it and write it back. And it is that easy, you just have to keep some things in mind.
This refresh has to be done very often. The procedure must be very thin and quick. Also the bus that is used to communicate with the EC is a problem, but since the S10e BIOS 66 it became a minor problem for me because it looks like the built-in fan control now depends on some kind of average value over the last few seconds and it doesn't really matter if one write-cycle is failing.
The read-event must be placed before the write-event. Otherwise you just read your manipulated value. The field is filled by the system regularly, so you just have to test if the read_value is different from the written_value, then you know that the field was filled with a "fresh" value. Like "if read_temperatue <> written_temperature then real_cpu_temperature = read_temperature else do nothing".
About the values you have to write back... you will have to test and play a bit. My experience is that you can select three fan levels, starting at 59°, 62° and 70° - at least with the NHC profile and my S10e it's like that. It's some trial 'n' error. My fan stays off at < 59°, but you should select a very low value for fan_off like 30°. In my opinion it switches off much faster the lower the written value is. But it's just a feeling, I haven't measured it.
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Perhaps some users from countries with other languages than German and English can add tags for "fan", "control" and "noise".
Note from Moderator: Minor edits in title and disclaimer.
Message Edited by JaneL on 04-25-2009 02:32 PM

Great opening post Carsten!
The latest bios:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-71252 (BIOS 66)
The FSB can be reduced from 133MHz to 100MHz using SetFSB, this also reduces the heat:
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/
clockgen = SLG8SP513V
If you add a shortcut to the startup folder the program will start at startup. Under properties you can change the target to:
"C:\Program Files\SetFSB\setfsb.exe" -s100 -b1 -cg[SLG8SP513V] -w20
So it starts with a FSB of 100Mhz, in the background, with the right clock generator, after 20 seconds.
Message Edited by quazar on 04-25-2009 05:07 AM

How to disable Cool N Quiet driver when it isnt in the bios or registry for Roxio game capture?

1. HP G60-120 US Notebook PC
2. Windows 7 32-bit
3. No error messages
4. No changes before issue occured.
I was told by Roxio (company of the capture card I bought to record gameplay on my Xbox) to call HP and get my Cool N Quiet driver disabled after I updated my other drivers and still had problems with my capture card. Can somebody tell me where to find it other than in the registry and bios because it is NOT in there and I have looked already more than 5 times or if you know where I can get it remotely disabled. HP cannot remotely disable it because I just talked to them and they don't have the power to do that.

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Originally posted by kensterman
Does Cool n' Quiet need any software for it to work, or does the CPU/Fan slow down automatically? I notice that I have to use MSI's Core Center to activiate Cool n' Quiet. Anyone??
No, Corecenter is almost useless and is NOT needed to "activate" Cool n Quiet. The best it can do is tell you fan speed and temps, and even that is questionable. It will also tell you clock speed but you can get that from right clicking "My Computer" choose Properties, go to General tab, note mhz displayed there. If it is about half of full clock speed for your CPU, then CnQ is working right. If it shows full clock speed, then CoolnQuiet is NOT working and you need to re-read Mr. Woo's original post which gives details about how to enable it.
Next, about fan speed. You have to understand that CnQ does not have anything to do with fan speed directly. Unless you have fan speed control disabled in BIOS, then your fan is going to control as you described whether you have CnQ enabled or not. In BIOS, in the H/W Monitor section, there is a place to enable or disable fan speed control - it's called CPU Smart Temperature Monitor or something like that.
As long as it is enabled and your fan is compatible and hooked up right, the fan will ramp up and down to control temperature. This is independent of CnQ. And it is independent of Corecenter. Disable CnQ and shutdown CoreCenter, the mobo still controls fan speed.

K8n neo bios 1.4 temps and cool n quiet

Hi,
I recently flashed to bios 1.4 and it has been fine thus far. However I have two issues that may be related to this new bios.
Windows XP utilties (mbm, sandra, speedfan, even corecell) all report my temps to be in the mid 30 degrees C, however the bios reports them as 45 degrees, which should I trust?
Also I think I've gotten half of cool n quiet working, vcore is down when cpu is not doing intensive work and so is the multiplier, making it run approx 1 GHz give or take. However, I believe that my AMD stock fan always spins around the same speed (approx 3200 rpm), regardless whether the cpu is doing intensive work or idles, is something wrong? I have the cool, wheres the quiet where my fan is supposed to slow down?
Any help is appreciated!
XP SP2
A64 3200+ Newcastle
K8N Neo Bios v1.4
512 MB PQI Turbo Black Memory
Stock HSF
Maxtor 60 GB

well the temperature in bios is very likely to to be above of that in windows, because cool n quiet doesnt work in bios and processor runs at normal frequencies there. The fan speed problem can be either of two things i know, first is that you haven't enabled smart cpu fan in bios and other is if you go to standby and then resume, it seems that cool n quiet works after it but mobo doesn't control the fan speed after standby. These are just some things i have noticed. The bios 1.4 is very good btw (atleast for normal use, i dont't overclock so no idea about that).

Basic stuff -- BIOS version, Cool 'n' Quiet working?

Hi,
Okay, my new PC is up and running stable in WinXP Pro. Here are some very basic noob questions:
-How exactly do I determine my BIOS version? I thought I had v. 1.0 based on the loading screen during boot up, and SoftSandra, but MSI's Live Update says I have an equal or newer version than 1.2.
-How can I tell that Cool 'n Quiet is functioning properly? In Core Center, it appears that the CPU fan speed increases under load, but it doesn't happen right away so I'm not sure. Also, the CPU fan speed slider stays in the position I put it in manually, even after I switch back to Cool 'n Quiet (maybe this is just a GUI thing).
BTW -- I installed the Hyperion 4-in-1 drivers, enabled Cool 'n Quiet in the BIOS and set Windows power management to "minimal" -- is there anything else I need to do to enable Cool 'n Quiet functionality?
Also, should I just control the CPU fan manually through a drive bay fan controller instead of through Cool 'n Quiet?
Thanks,
-Ross

Hi
Glad to see we are down to minor bits and bobs.
The bios version should be at top of first post screen. use pause if its passes to quick.
BUT, live update checks what version you have, if there is a newer version it will tell you. there is a 1.33 available from MSI, but not on live update yet.
There are various threads on C & Q, I don't use it, but some who do like it, others confused by it, you have obviously read the threads. So you know more than me !!
Hyperion 4 in 1 is the best driver, if C & Q is working for you I would leave it be, the fan will speed up or slow down on temp. That will take a few secs time lag as chip heats up, or cools down. As long as CPU temp stays within norms, I would think is is working normally.
Enjoy it
Jocko

K8N Neo4 Platinum - Fan control missing?

Good evening.
I've recently assembled an Athlon 64 3000 (Venice) / Neo4 Platinum system, and unfortunatly I am not able to control the speed of any fan connected to the motherboard. Also disappointing is the fact that four fans are connected, but only three show in Speedfan.
My CPU cooler is Thermaltake's Venus 12, so it's not MB-controlable.
My Enermax 120mm fan connects using the usual 3-wire connection, and has an RPM knob integrated. It doesn't seem to respond to Speedfan no matter what the state of the knob is.
Last but not least is the noisy chipset fan, which shows but also doesn't respond to Speedfan.
There's also a 92mm Enermax fan which is connected the same way as the 120mm one, but doesn't show.
I've only found two BIOS settings that were said to be relevant - Cool'n'Quiet and CPU Fan Target. Both had no effect. I did no find a NB Fan Target setting that some people reported having.
CoreCenter seems uselss. It doesn't change anything regarding the chipset fan, and I didn't find any "Temp Alarm" setting for the chipset, that was also mentioned here at some time. Tried uninstalling it as well (probably with a restart, I don't remember), but it doesn't seem to have had an impact on the fan control issue.
So essentialy, what I've got are four fans connected, three of those showing, two of these that can theoretically be adjusted through software, one that's too damn noisy at more than 7500 RPM, and zero that I can actually through software.
And no, a Zalman Fanmate is not a solution after I've invested in this top-of-the-line MB. I expect to get what I've paid for.
Is there a solution to this problem, once and for all?

To get to the CoreCenter Temp alarms, you have to expand the right 'wing' (click little arrow); but this only sets temperature below which an alarm will sound: it has no effect on fan speed itself.
But indeed, nothing on CoreCenter seems to affect NB fan.
The manual itself only mentions that CPUFAN1 supports fan control.
[Will eventually apply myself hardware solution for nb fan, either single resistor, as described elsewhere on this board, or with rheostat; if i can find a store where to buy fanmate2, that would be better (shipping/handling from net order would cost more than the darn thing!).]
@Flow: my case fan, connected to SFAN1, does show in Speedfan, even without CoreCenter lauchned (I removed it from StarUp list).
(However, i still have the AMD PowerNow! Technology Service, ie GemServ, enabled and started)

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