RSA1 Setup and Hierarchy / Attributes Change Run Activation

I have perfomed a Hierarchy / Attributes change run in RSA1, but althought it shows no errors; in some transactions (reports) its not updated or rather it still shows the previous and the actual hierarchy values overlapped.
One of the possible solutions its to deactivate and reactivate aggregates, I already entered 0 in transaction RSCUSTV8, also try to find info objects and click on activate master data but none has the option and they are not assigned.
I been reading some solutions that involve making changes to the data that shows in different parts of transaction RSA1, the problem is that in my case there are no data in the transaction just shows some unassigned info objects.
In fact SAP ask me to provide a System Logical Name prior to use transaction RSA1. So problably there are more set up steps missing.
Does somebody knows where should I look for answers.
Thanks
Best Regards,
Carlos

Its more complicated than I thought currently learning more about BW

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Hierarchy/ Attribute Change Run

Hello Gurus,
I am loading data into one infoobject which is having attributes, text and hierarchy. But after loading data into that info object, if I check in tools -> Apply Hierarchy/Attribute change Run, for that same infoObject it is showing blank.
How do I get that infoobject into tools -> Apply Hierarchy/Attribute change Run -> info objects list???
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Rajdeep.

Hi Lavanya,
I am doing the same, I am trying to load data. It is getting loaded in the characteristic but I am not able to see that infoobject in apply hierarchy/ attribute change run.
In manage tab I can see that request with ready for reporting.
Thanks for your quick reply.
Regards,
Rajdeep.

Problem in Activating Hierarchy Attribute change run through process chain.

Hi All,
I have the problem in Hierarchy change run processw running through process chain..and also process chain completes successfully without any error..
Even hierarchy change run completes successfully the hierarchy objects are not activating,
so daily when i have to activate hierarchy objects manually..
and what i did was in one attributechange run process i have included 10 hierarchy object is it correct or else i have to separatly create 10 attribute change hierachy proceess in the process chain.. pls through some lights on this issue
With regards,
Hari

Hi venkat,
Yes.. i already include the save hierarchies process in process chain...
my main problem is hierarchy infobject are not activating using process chain and also even process chain is not giving error message.. and in which log table the hierarchy objects are maintained (such as run time, date , status etc..).
IS there is any other settings to be made in process chain..
with regards,
hari

Master data attribute change run error

hi all,
plz tell me the procedure to overcome the masterdata attribute change run error.plz explain me with steps clearly
thanks in advance,
jack

Hi Jack,
The process of Attribute change run is just the activation of the Master data same as DSO's.
In RSA1>tools>Apply Hierarchy/Attribute change run(CRTL+F9). You can check your object for which the attribute change run has to be applied through the infoobject list.
Then execute. now the attribute change run is completed.
Please ensure the infoobject is activated.
Provide us the error message to give you more details.
Regards,
Ravi

Small confusion about aggregates and attribute change run.. plz explain

hi bw experts,
i am having a small confusion regarding the aggregates and attribute change run.
as far as in know if there is any new master data loaded, then we will activate it by context menu on the particular info object and select the option activate master data.
the second one is going to tools--?apply hierarchy/attribute change run option.
my doubt is is the attribute change run related to aggregates is yes then how,.?
appreciated if you plz help me in detail both these concepts and wherther there is any connection between them.
thanks & regards.
vijay..

Hi Vijay sagar,
ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN:
1)It's used after you change (add/delete/modify) attribute in the master data. You've to make it in order to have an effect after you modify it.
2)Once the master data has been loaded, the hierarchy/attribute change run is performed. Once this process chain has been ended correctly, master data and texts are available in an active format in SAP BW.
To get it :
1. tcode : RSA1.
2. Tools -> Apply Hierarchy/Attribute Change
3. tap on Info-object list button (checking what master data you've modified before).
4. tap on selection button for type of job
5. Execute.
link(s):
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/80/1a67ece07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
AGGREGATES:
1)Aggregates make it possible to access InfoCube data quickly in reporting. In doing so, aggregates help improve performance. (See Aggregate.)
2)In order to be able to insert aggregates effectively, it is important to find out which aggregates are frequently used or have not been used in a long time.
3)Aggregates contains not only general data but also data that appears in an aggregate after data is filled and rolled up. Reporting in this InfoCube reveals how often data was loaded into an aggregate, how long filling and rolling up took, and whether it took longer to read or write the data.
4)Adding when Rolling Up in Aggregate counts the time required to write the data to the aggregate.
The Records, Read for Aggregate Structure key figure counts the data records that are read for constructing the aggregate.
Refer the following link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/3d/5fb13cd0500255e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Assign points if it helps u
Thanks & Regards,
Madhusudhan Reddy.K

Attribute Change run issue

Hi All,
I have a Info Object 0MEASERE, we have maintained master data for that and ran attribute change run... but unfortunately it was not activated, so we ran change run again now we get the message saying that it is locked in the terminated job.
But when i check st12 there are no locks against the user.
Can someone please tell me what should i do to activate this?.
Regards
BN

Hi,
Chk this thread. It should help ur issue.
Hierarchy is locked by a terminated change run
Hope it helps. Assign points if useful.
Cheers.

Error with Attribute Change Run - Urjent

Hi All,
In our scenario we will load master data from APO&ECC to BW.When we are doing attribute change run we are geetting short dump and jobs are cancelling every time .
Please fidn the details below.
Short Dump : ORA-14400 with ABAP/4 DBIF_RSQL_SQL_ERROR..
When I have searched in the forum I got some information saying that we need to drop the index and recreate the index.But we have around 40 cubes.Then how I am going to deside on which I need to the relavent settings.
Please provide me the proper answer.We are facing this problem from past last two days.
Regards
Ramakanth.

Hi,
You can try going to the monitor for Attribute change run from RSA1 >> tools >> apply change run or from Transaction RSATTR which will schedule/display attribute change run. Here you can have an option called change run monitor (Monitor icon). this wil show the status of change run including which all info objects are affected, and if its hitting the aggregates of any cubes. There are scenarios where the attribute change run failed with message that it was hitting/affecting aggregates of some infocubes. In case we had to switch off aggregates and trigger the change run again and then swtich on the aggregates after the change run is over.
And sometimes ACR goes on running for a long time in such case we need to check which Aggregate the ACR is currently changing and need to deactivate that aggregate.
But before deactivating an aggregate you need to check the data present in that and the usage of the aggregate.
Please use the table RSDDCHNGPROT and find out the infocube affected by this change run and de-activate "ALL" the aggregates
of the infocube listed under CNSID=0. Then start the change-run.
You can rebuild/refill the aggregates once the change-run is finished.This is necessary because there are inconsistencies in the aggregates
Most of the times we have problem with the Attribute Change Run(ACR) running because ACR and the Roll Up's for Aggregates cannot run in parallel.
Also you can try Tcode CHANGERUNMONI/program RSDDS_CHANGERUN_MONITOR to view this data.
176606 - Apply Hierarchy/Attribute change ... long runtime
175309 - Hierarchy/attribute - change run improved
oss note 322644
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
JituK

Attribute Change run canceled

Hi
I have loaded master data for an Infoobject and executed Attribute change run by saving that object and execute. I got the message like Attribute change run is canceled((protocol/shortdump) now i can not able to run any attribute change runs since save button is not available in the window and also unable to load data to the same infoobject getting errored and giving messsage locked by attribute change run i have checked in sm12 no locks exist on this object
Thanks
Vani

Hi,
You can try going to the monitor for Attribute change run from RSA1 >> tools >> apply change run or from Transaction RSATTR which will schedule/display attribute change run. Here you can have an option called change run monitor (Monitor icon). this wil show the status of change run including which all info objects are affected, and if its hitting the aggregates of any cubes. There are scenarios where the attribute change run failed with message that it was hitting/affecting aggregates of some infocubes. In case we had to switch off aggregates and trigger the change run again and then swtich on the aggregates after the change run is over. this may not be the exact issue you are facing.
Most of the times we have problem with the Attribute Change Run(ACR) running because ACR and the Roll Up's for Aggregates cannot run in parallel.
The Problem may be that there is another change run triggered parallely to yours.In any SAP System only One attribute change run can run at one point of time. i. e If one attribute change run is running in system from any process chain or for any project and 2nd one fails, if start at same time due to locking problem. Due to this entire data load fails.
Just check it there are any other change run active in SM37. Repeat your change run once the other change run is over.
And sometimes ACR goes on running for a long time in such case we need to check which Aggregate the ACR is currently changing and may need to deactivate that aggregate.
But before deactivating an aggregate you need to check the data present in that and the usage of the aggregate.
Also you can try Tcode CHANGERUNMONI/program RSDDS_CHANGERUN_MONITOR to view this data.
thanks,
JituK

Can we apply attribute change run for datatarget (Master data )

hi,
can we apply attribute change run for datatarget like masterdata where for example i am loading 0pm_order_attr to 0pm_order data target (master data). after successful loading of data, do i have to apply attribute change run for <i>info object</i> 0pm_order or apply attribute change run for 0pm_order in <i>info providers</i> because after successful loading of pm order data, i am trying to load transactional data and it is showing error "No SID value found for xxx record"
pls advice how not to make the error repeat even after successful loading of master data.
Thanks in advance, quick responce is greatly appreciated.

Hi all,
i am in production server and cannot activate the master data 0pm_order which is in info providers directly, is there any chance of activating it with any other option.
coming to attribute change run, i understand that we can apply for master data objects which are there in info providers, am i correct?
i ran attribute change run yesterday for the info object 0pm_order but even after doing that i tried to load transactional data but it was failure with the same error "No SID value found", why i am getting when i found master data loading successful and ran attribute change run for infoobject.

Attribute change run for Customer

Hi All,
I did a delta load of the customer data and got some new and changed records. I remember that we need to do an attribute change run after loading any master data. To do that, I went through the menu path Tools Apply hierarchy/Attribute change run...but couldn't find anything there. Do I need to do anything to get the "Customer" here to do the attribute change run.
Thanks,
RPK.

Hi
Go to
Tools-->Apply hierarchy/Attribute change run
Oncle ur there click execute to start change run,It will staart and finishes the Attribute change run.
If u want to see the list of objects click on the 'InfoObjectlist' on the Tools-->Apply hierarchy/Attribute change run screen
Assig point if it is helpful

Attribute Change Run terminating - repeated several times - not locked

I had a failure in my master data chain tonight. The attribute change run that ran yesterday ran for 11k seconds and was cancelled (it says manually). When the chain ran tonight, the process failed again. I checked the log and it says "UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION" and it created a short dump. I tried repeating to see if it did anything and it gave me the same message.
I went into the change run monitor and reset the status and manually tried to run the change run again. Same result "UNCAUGHT_EXCEPTION".
I then checked table RSDDAGGRMODSTATE and there was no blank CNSID entries, but there was a blank "completed flag" entry. I don't have change access to the table in prod so I cannot manually change it to X (meaning closed). I reset the status again in the chagne run monitor and the record with the blank "completed flag" disappeared. I repeated the change run and it failed again and a new record with the "completed flag" being blank appeared in the RSDDAGGRMODSTATE table.
I checked SM12 and there are no locks there. I'm on 7.0 so I can't manually right click on 0CUSTOMER and activate the master data either.
As a last resort I did run the function module RSDDS_AGGR_MOD_CLOSE but that short dumped too.
Any ideas? Please? This will fail my other chains that have 0CUSTOMER in the aggregates. Thanks.

HI,
Firstly try this FM RSDDS_AGGREGATES_MAINTAIN
if not possible
Try doing it manually
Uncaught exception may come due to many reasons
IN RSA1 go to tools and select attribute change run
Check the blog it shows you how to manually do attribute change run step by Step (for BI7.0 also)
/people/debjani.das/blog/2009/03/30/attribute-change-run-acr
Regards,
MADhu.
Edited by: MadhuMarupudi on Aug 21, 2009 5:49 AM

BWonHANA: Attribute Change Runs (ACR)

Dear all,
I have a question regarding Attribute Change Runs (ACR) in BW system running on HANA.
According document: Attribute Change Run it suggests that ACR may not be needed in BW running on HANA DB. However I'm looking for some experience in this topic. So is ACR needed? If so does it run faster comparing to legacy DB?
thank you
m./

Hi Martin,
go through below thread for existing experience:
Program to run Attribute Change run
Attribute Change Run – Strategies and Parameters
Attribute Change Run concepts - SAP NetWeaver Business Warehouse - SCN Wiki
LET'S BE BETTER IN SAP BI: Why Attribute Change Run in SAP BI 7.0 is required?
Regards,
V Srinivasan

Abt master data activation and attribute change run

There is any difference between master data activation and attribute change run

Hi,
Master data activation is activating the master data once you extract the data from source system the data will be in inactive state, so in order to make the data available we will activate the master data.
Attribute change run :Its used to update the newly changed master data records to the Hierachies and aggregates.
If you are already using the available master data in aggregates in InfoCubes, you cannot activate the master data individually. In this case we will use attribute change run.
For attribute change run we have direct tcode: RSATTR or In the main menu, choose the path Tools Hierarchy/Attribute Change.
regards
KP

Difference between Activating Master Data and Attribute Change Run

Hi
Is there any difference between Atribute change run and Activating Master data functionaaly???
if wha it is???
can any one explain clearly?
Thanks
Chinna

When u load master data and its attribute to ur data target and if u change any data or attributes of ur master data,in order to update new data to ur data target attribute change run is performed.
When u create a characteristic and if u keep it as master data and activated..it is master data activation
Activating Master Data
When you update master data from an SAP system the master data is imported in an inactive state. You must activate the new master data so that it can be accessed and used for reporting purposes.
For more information, see Versioning Master Data.
Choose the path InfoObject Tree Context Menu of Corresponding Characteristic Activate Master Data.
Upon Activation there are two scenarios to choose from:
The Corresponding Master Data Is Already Being Used in Aggregates in the InfoCube:
If you are already using the available master data in aggregates in InfoCubes, you cannot activate the master data individually. In this case, proceed as follows:
1. In the main menu, choose the path Tools Hierarchy/Attribute Change.
2. Proceed as described in System Response upon Changes to Data: Aggregate.
The system now automatically restructures and activates the master data and its aggregates.
Please note that this process can take several hours if the volume of data is relatively high. Therefore, you should simultaneously activate all of the characteristics that are affected by changes to their master data, at regular intervals.
The Corresponding Master Data Is Not Used in Aggregates:
Choose the path InfoObject Tree ® Context Menu of Corresponding Characteristic Activate.
The system now automatically activates the master data so that it can be used directly in reporting.
If there is any change r newly added records in master data..then that particular data will not b avialable for the reporting unless u do activate master data...
if u r using aggregates and then there is any change in master data ...then that particular master data change wil not b available for the reporting unless u do arrtibute change run for that info object.(T-code RSATTR)
Master data attributes and hierachies are used in cube aggregates also. So to do update the latest master data attributes values in the aggregtes attribute change run need to be performed.So Attribute change run also updates the master data attributes in aggregates which is not apart of master data activation.
Text loads do not need attribute change run. Attributes, hierarchies and aggregates need attribute/hierarchy change runs. If you do not have aggregates, just activating the master data is same as attribute change run.

How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregat

Hello
I want to understand that How to make Attribute Change run alignment & Hierarchy changes in Aggregate?
I posted previously the same question but there were not good answers and i was not able to understand clearly .....
If there is Process chain XXY which makes Attribute change run for Master Data 0SPELLING ?
Now there is Aggregate TRT which includes :
0SPELLING , Fiscal Period , Purchase Product, Purchase Category ?
Now pls answer following question ?
1) Does the Process Chain XXY which makes only attribute change run alignment for 0SPELLING , Will this process chain automatically do the Change run alignment for 0SPELLING in Aggregate TRT ? YES or NO
2) If Yes, then we are just suppose to do Roll up for Aggregate TRT after Process chian XXY completes and finish job ?
3) If No, then what steps are suppose to be DONE so as to make sure that Aggregate TRT has new values and perfect values for 0SPELLING ?
Please answer and coorect if i have any wrong question....

for e.g.
u have 0spelling whicha has attributes x,y and z on day 1 with 10 records
so do ur aggregates on day1 with same values
now on day2 u had new values of attributes y,z,s,d and new hierarchies and so u add new records
with data load u will load the data with version M of modified and is not available for reporting
If u do attribute change run then this modified version is activated to A i.e. active version .
It will also do the change run alignment for Aggregate for new attribute values and new hierarchy values for aggregate.
now in order for this data to be available for reporting u will need to do the roll up of aggregate.....
if u roll up aggregate before attribute change run , new data is not avaialable for reporting
if u roll up aggregate after attribute change run, then data is available for reporting
if u dont roll up aggregate eventhough new data is in dataprovider, still new data will not be available for reporting.
this is how it works

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