Ruler guides, again

Yes, I did a search and I found a few discussions about ruler guides. But, nothing is working for me yet. All I want is ruler guides across ALL my pages, not just the page I created it on. I've tried using Control. Doesn't work. I've tried making sure the guide is outside of the page margin when I create it. Doesn't work. I've tried pressing "w" off and on. Doesn't work.
Thanks,
Peter

P Spier wrote:
Peter Britt Bailey wrote:
Adobe InDesign Help.
Are you referring to http://help.adobe.com/en_US/indesign/cs/using/WSfd1234e1c4b69f30d2a505 1004d659b1c-7fefa.html?
Ruler guides are different from grids in that they can be positioned freely on a page or on a pasteboard. You can create two kinds of ruler guides: page guides, which appear only on the page on which you create them, or spread guides, which span all pages and the pasteboard of a multiple-page spread. You can drag any ruler guide to the pasteboard. A ruler guide is displayed or hidden with the layer on which it was created.
I can see how you might have misinterpreted this by not reading carefully. Let me add a little emphasis to the critical wording: spread guides, which span all pages and the pasteboard of a multiple-page spread
Note that it says spread, not, document. Further clarification should come fromthe next paragraph:
New ruler guides always appear on the target spread. For example, if several spreads are visible in the document window and you drag a new guide into the window, the new guide becomes visible only on the target spread. (Emphasis added)
Hi, Peter S.
It seems that the Help's description favors a somewhat experienced user, rather than a newer user. Your clarifications are helpful; if you have a few spare moments, you might want to post a comment on the help page that suggest a bit of "disambiguation."
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

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// 2014 John J. McAssey (JJMack)
// ======================================================= */
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