Rules of Engagement

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hi
mark ur un answered question as answered
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kunal

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Please read "The Forum Rules of Engagement" before posting! HOT NEWS!!

Welcome to the SDN ABAP Development Forums!
Please see the [Forum Rules of Engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement] before posting to avoid potential problems (e.g. your posts are deleted).
The [ABAP Development Forums|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/category.jspa?categoryID=42] have dedicated forums for the following ABAP related areas:
=> General questions about the ABAP language and language implementations. If in doubt, use this forum and do not cross-post.
=> Tables, views, structures, data elements, domains, search helps and types in the underlying relational database.
=> SAPscript and Smartforms form generation, editing and printing and the corresponding programs.
=> Classical Dynpro, Screen Painter and Controls Framework (ALV grid, Table Controls).
=> Enhancing ABAP code through techniques as CMOD, SMOD and the newer BADIs, Switch and Enhancement Frameworks.
=> Code quality, ABAP Unit, Testing, Debugging, efficient code techniques and database reads, SQL trace tools and Runtime Analysis.
=> Data Transfer Techniques, Batch Data Communication, Legacy System Migration Workbench, Application Link Enabling, IDOCs, BAPIs.
=> ABAP Object definition and implementation including encapsulation, interfaces and inheritance in ABAP Objects.
Please...
- Use the correct or most appropriate forum,
- Do not cross-post or multiple-post, and
- Search for information before asking basic questions, again.
Using these categories will enhance performance in the forums and improve the chances that your questions are answered quickly and more accurately!
Other relevant blogs and rule related infos are:
- Michael Schwandt's blog about [Moving to strict rules to improve quality and control|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/10047].
- Michael Schwandt's blog about [Quality: Invitation To Clean Up Your Forum Threads|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/11978].
- Please follow-up on your threads and assign points correctly, as this also contributes to the [UN Food Program|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/7898].
Enjoy the forums and happy posting!!

Start of related discussions about the above rules. Feel free to discuss the rules here...
Dear Jan
Sometime i found very difficuties and time taking process in putting questions in forum bcos i have to elaborate the whole pictorial process in words.
Why Cant we make our this forum more Interactive in way of asking questions by allowing us to attach print preview of what we face in the system.
If you kindly give a glance on this issue and try to implement it for us, forum members like us will be benefited and it will be beneficial for those who are all into in this forum.
Thanks & Regards
Saifur Rahaman

Welcome & Rules of Engagement

Welcome to the Remote Connection to SAP Forum!
Please use the search before you post. More detailed <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement">rules of engagement</a>, can be found on the Wiki.
Happy posting!
The Community Team

Hi
I must be blind but I have not found a place where I can ask a new question. I only can reply to other messages. Could you kindly advice which button I should press that I can ask my own questions and not only post replys.
Br
Seija

Do you know where is the rules of engagement ? How often do you read It ?

Hi,
Do you know where is the [rules of engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/x/FgQ] ?
Many people know exactaly where it is, but i noted that major of SCN never read this document.
Today i noted this document link in:
Left box menu in [Community Guidelines|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/communityguidelines] on the folowing pages: [Forum|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/forums] , [Wiki|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki] and [Blogs|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs].
[Expert Forums|https://forums.sdn.sap.com/index.jspa?categoryID=1]
Some Forum has a locked thread like [Welcome and Rules of Engagement|Welcome and Rules of Engagement;
There people that never saw this document before. Others already saw but they never read( this is other problem ).
The SCN is a dinamyc community so the rule can be changed at any moment. How often do you check it for updatings ? We know that the general rule probably won't be changed but new rules can be added !
Wouldn't It be a good idea if this document link stay in All Threads next to link Reply to this Thread or in any place of this page ?
Thanks,
Marcelo Ramos

Hi Marilyn,
Please tell me if I'm wrong but when I see new SCN member or someone that doesn't respect the community's rules I add the one of the following phrase:
"Welcome to SDN Forum. Don't forget to read the [rules of engagement|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement] !" As the follow [thread|Program with Top includes;.
"Don't forget to close this thread and all yours previous when your question be answered !" As the follow [thread|ABAP or MII;.
"Lets make the SDN better we are responsible for this !" As the follow [thread|want to upgrade GUI to ECC 6.0.;.
"PS.: Others SDN member can use your question resolve their problems, so is important you don't forget to mark this Thread as answered when your question be answered !" As the follow [thread|SAP ECC 6.0 GUI;
I noted that it's working for some people ! mainly for New SCN members !
Best Regards.
Marcelo Ramos

A new "Read the rules of engagement" plague?

Has someone else recognized the the new phenomenon of someone posting a trivial and/or meaningless question and several respondents finding it worthwile to post something like
Welcome to SDN.
Please read the Rules of Engagement....Your thread will be locked ....blablabla....
Sometimes I think there are a lot of Strange Characters out there
anton.

Hi Vijay,
Yes, I know. Also the person might cross-post after someone has (correctly) answered the first thread.
That is why I do not always delete everything from cross-posted interview question series - but a plausibility check is advisable anyway.
When people stop answering those types of questions, then eventually the folks who are too lazy to search will stop asking them.
Goal => Search first, ask specific questions later!
> Recently it happened once.
Sorry about that. Rules are rules, and currently they are rather strict.
I look very much forward to the day when we can relax the strict moderation again
From what I can tell, the "urgnt" and "plz riward" are now a thing of the past (relatively speaking).
Any other tips or tricks for combating the copy&pasters and the interview questions? They seem to be the hardest ones to crack.
Cheers,
Julius

Please read - Rules of Engagement

Before posting your questions please read [Rules of Engagement|https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/rulesofEngagement]

These are great rules. Glad they were brought to my attention.
A highly recommended quick read for all users:
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Rules%20of%20Engagement

Research Resources and Rules of Engagement

Hi experts and wanna-be experts:
Welcome to the Utilities space on SCN.
Before anything else, read The SCN Rules of Engagement
Update 09/09/2012 - search enhancements are available in SCN:
Custom Google Search for SCN content http://bit.ly/new-scn-search Custom Google Search for the New SCN
SAP search http://search.sap.com/ New and upcoming SCN search Enhancements
And most importantly, Type to filter by text on the discussions pages Search News: Type to Filter by Text is Back on the Content Tab
Before posting your question or response, please ensure that you have followed these basic rules:
Search the forum to ensure that the question has not already been asked and/or answered. Use the text or tag filter. Duplicate posts will be removed. Consistent violations will result in loss of forum privileges.
Ask specific questions - how can I default value 'X' in process Y instead of tell me how ISU works. Here is a blog Asking Good Questions in the SCN Discussion Spaces will help you get Good Answerswith hints on how to ask questions the right way and [another|http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html] with great internet forum tips. Generic posts will be removed. Consistent violations will result in loss of forum privileges.
Asking for documentation about billing or meter reading, etc is not allowed. Posts will be locked immediately.
Do your work prior to posting. The forums are not a replacement for your own research. Show what you have investigated. Intelligent, thoughtful posts will get the best responses.
Do not share your email address within your posting. Add it to your profile or send a user a direct message. Sharing email addresses within threads is not permitted and the content will be removed.
Keep your threads updated - when they are solved, mark them as such and identify helpful/correct answers where appropriate. If you solve it on your own, provide the solution you have found so that others can benefit. Here is a helpful document explaining how and why to do this
Here are the best, most relevant places to look for information on the SAP for Utilities solution:
Search the SAP help website - http://help.sap.com/utilities for the Utilities Industry help
Look for training courses for the SAP for Utilities solution - https://training.sap.com/sa/en/curriculum/sfi_ut-sap-for-utilities-g-en?
How to find a BAPI - Use the BAPI Explorer
          http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/EN/3e/ecf226942511d2ad4b080009b0fb56/frameset.htm
Search the SAP Service Marketplace. There is a good deal of Utilities Industry process and solution documentation available there, including the new BPEM cookbook supplied by Fritz in May, 2013.
          https://service.sap.com/utilities
          https://service.sap.com/erp-ehp
Search sap.com site for white papers and other documentation.
          http://www8.sap.com/mk/get/customer_assets
Check also the Utilities BPX Community and the wikis, blogs and other assets available there.
          http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/bpx/utilities
Check the SAP website for Utilities Industry
          http://www.sap.com/index.epx#/industries/utilities.epx
          http://www.sap.com/industries/utilities/index.epx
Some moderator recommended links
Moderator Picks for SAP for Utilities space
kind regards,
bill.
Edited by: William Eastman on Nov 5, 2009 8:52 PM
Edited by: William Eastman on Nov 5, 2009 8:57 PM
Edited by: William Eastman on Apr 21, 2010 7:07 AM
Edited by: William Eastman on Jul 12, 2010 3:56 PM
Message was edited by: William Eastman

I have posted updates with enhancements to search and new tools for searching the discussions. Please make use of these to find answers before posting.

Welcome and Rules of Engagement

Welcome to the Business Process Modeling Methodologies forum!
Please see our <a href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki">Wiki FAQ</a> and use the search before you post. More detailed <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement">rules of engagement</a>, can be found on the Wiki.
Tool-related questions (such as workflow) are best dealt with by putting them in the correct tool forum (see Read about the Redefined Business Process Modeling Methodology Forum).
Happy posting!
The Community Team

While posting a new thread kindly differentiate between questions and announcements.
If it is an announcement (like Offline Meetup) then please uncheck the "Mark this thread as a question" checkbox while Creating a new thread.
Happy posting!
The Community Team

"The SCN Rules of Engagement" is a secret (?)

On the "SAP Manufacturing" (space) Overview page, the link labeled "The SCN Rules of Engagement" leads to http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-18590, which for me is "Unauthorized" - "Access to this place or content is restricted. If you think this is a mistake, please contact your administrator or the person who directed you here."

No change. I am still "Unauthorized".

Have the rules of engagement gone missing?

I clicked through to the [rules of engagement|https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement] just now to verify whether or not I should report a post for abuse, and was surprised to see that this is now a blank page. Is this a way of telling us that the rules have been relaxed?
Ethan

The Return of : [Rules of Engagements|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/RulesofEngagement]
Working fine
Edited by: Pushkar Patil on Oct 8, 2010 2:21 PM

:O Rules of Engagement --- 2005-02-25

SDN has now introduced a <a href="/people/mark.finnern/blog/2004/08/03/announcing-the-contributor-recognition-program Recognition Program</a>. Which in short text means that for each question you have 10 points, which can be given to the person that answers your question.
Why worry? But at the end of the day, all of us are human, and a small recognition goes a long way. This way, you win in getting a good answer. The person answering gets that warm feeling of having helped and with enough points gets a small reward.
SDN is a community that lives for and from its users. Which means when asking a question, you also assume the responsibility to assign the points. Recommended is that you assign 6 or 10 points once to the answer/person that helped you the most. Assign 2 points to everyone that contributed something. See also <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Contributor+Recognition">FAQ</a>.
brian mckellar (moderator)

Welcome to the SAP forums. Before you post, make yourself first familiar with the rules of engagement.
Disclaimer: This is NOT a support channel. For urgent problems, especially if it concerns your business, SAP Service Channel is the only way to go! If the place where your problem gets logged and tracked, where there are escalation processes available, and where we can involve different groups as appropriate to get a problem solved. Problems can and will only be handled via SAP Service Channel, not in this forum.
Step 1: Finding your answer
Rule number one: Try to find the answer first. There are tons of resources out there, show that you have tried to find the answer. A question that shows that the person is willing to try and help themselves is more likely to be answered than one which simply demands information. Tell us what you have tried to solve the problem yourself - often we can learn from that too!
Search the forums, the articles, the blog posts and the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) in the WIKI ( https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki ) for your topic.
Step 2: Asking a question
Once you have verified that no resources are available solving your problem, ask your question. Do the following:
- Use a good subject line
The subject header is your golden opportunity to attract qualified experts' attention in around 50 characters or fewer. Don't waste it on babble like "Workflow question". As we all have busy jobs, often we just skim through the list headings and read those that interest us. Also, DO NOT reply to an unrelated post to ask a different question. This confuses those reading the thread and may lose people that would be interested in your question. Always start a new topic with a new mail.
Bad subject: Urgent problem with workflow
Good subject: Error after transport: "Inconsistent workflow definition"
Do not use any of the words urgent, quickly, burning, etc in your message. Especially not in the title! This just irritates and does not help you to get to your goal. From our side, we definitely not answer faster, nor better when we see these hot words.
The same for such things as ??? or !!! in appends. In English language one ? or ! is sufficient to terminate a sentence.
- Only one question per posting
For each question that you have, make a separate posting. Don't ask multiple question in one pisting, this is confusing for people and might not get answered, as the subject line is not reflecting all your problems. If a new and unrelated question comes up during a thread, start a new thread.
- Provide enough information.
For starters, please tell us which version and type of system you're working on - e.g. SAP R/3 4.6C or SRM 4.0 (EBP 5.0). If your question is regarding an error, include the message. If it is a request for info, please be specific. Questions such as "How do I administer workflow" are vague, tell us exactly what you want to know - "I'm the administrator, how do I forward work items to another agent?". If it's a big query, rather break it down into separate questions.
- Re-read your query before submitting it.
Put yourself in a reader's position - does the question make sense? Can I understand the problem? Is this enough information to be able to answer the problem?
This is a very valuable technique, because many questions end up answering themselves when you read them carefully. It also leads to better questions. Many list readers like good questions, especially if they are thought-provoking and thus help all of us understand things better. This is one of the main reasons many experienced consultants read the list regularly.
- Why is nobody answering my question?
There may be variety of reasons:
1) never assume that you are entitled to an answer. Remember: this is a community forum; the people on the list have jobs just like you and respond voluntarily. Perhaps nobody knows the answer.
2) Did you let other users enough time? Don't be impatient. If the question is urgent, go to the official support channel.
3) Is your subject misleading, your post in the right forum or your problem description understandable?
Step 3: Give feedback and an update
Lastly, it's also nice to follow up with a brief update if you have found the solution. People may try to help not because they know the answer, but because they are interested in solving the same problem; or people may just encounter the same issue in the future and be searching the archives. It's a good way of giving back to the community, irrespective of whether you are a beginner or an expert.
Step 4: Thank others by giving points
SDN has now introduced a <a href="/people/mark.finnern/blog/2004/08/03/announcing-the-contributor-recognition-program Recognition Program</a>. Which in short text means that for each question you have 10 points, which can be given to the person that answers your question.
Why worry? But at the end of the day, all of us are human, and a small recognition goes a long way. This way, you win in getting a good answer. The person answering gets that warm feeling of having helped and with enough points gets a small reward.
SDN is a community that lives for and from its users. Which means when asking a question, you also assume the responsibility to assign the points. Recommended is that you assign 6 or 10 points once to the answer/person that helped you the most. Assign 2 points to everyone that contributed something. See also <a href="https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/HOME/Contributor+Recognition">FAQ</a>.
SDN is place where developers meet other developers. One takes the time to see the problems other developers are facing, the time to read possible solutions (to learn), and maybe one day the time to answer some questions.
Text in this message was borrowed from
- <a href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.sdn.businesscard.sdnbusinesscard?u=s1ett4b5nss%3d">brian McKellar</a> and the BSP forum
<a href="/people/mike.pokraka/blog/2005/07/17/sap-business-workflow-faq Workflow User Group FAQ</a> by [url=https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.sdn.businesscard.sdnbusinesscard?u=xbzpqlwvluy%3d]Mike Pokraka[/url]

I can't access the SCN rules of engagement document

When I ever I try to Access the SCN rules of engagement at the link http://scn.sap.com/docs/DOC-18590 which is found in the missiong, I get the following message:
Unauthorized
Access to this place or content is restricted. If you think this is a mistake, please contact your administrator or the person who directed you here.
Anyone knows how to solve it? I browesed other discussions that state it was solved but it clearly isnt't.

Cc Jason Lax

I am having error while viewing rules of Engagement post.

HI Team,
I am getting an error while trying to access Rules of SCN Engagement Post
Can you help me in resolving it.
Thanks,

This has been fixed. The document is visible again.

Discussion Rules of Engagement

comply with the Rules of Engagement

Hi Zakiya,
Partner function(e.g Sold to Party, Employee Responsible, Contact Person etc) is a term used to describe Business Partner based on their function.PLease follow the link for more understanding.
https://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm700_ehp01/helpdata/en/46/3e6d80fddf2f91e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
So a business partner can be assigned to multiple partner function(1:n relation). Instead for a service order, u can get the partner details associated with the service order by using 'CRM_ORDER_READ' FM and from that u can get the BP number by passing the partner function number.
If this doesnt help you, please give more details about the place where u needed the partner function and business partner.
Moderated: Please avoid begging for points.
Message was edited by: Andrei Vishnevsky

Feedback on rules of engagement

All,
Thank you for creating these rules - they hit the mark in terms of the right way to use the forums. Although there are many redundant and useless postings out there, there is a wealth of information to be found.
Thank you so much.
Sandra McCright

Alvaro,
My apologies for a statement that was not clear. I did not say the ROE were redundant. What I meant to say is that in the forums there are many redundant postings BECAUSE people do not follow the ROE. Even with the clutter of bad postings I still find the Forums to be very useful.
Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Sandra
Dear Sandra:
No apologies needed -:) It was my mistake....I totally misunderstood your post...Must check on my English skills again LOL
I'm glad that you still find the forums useful...That really brings joy to my heart -:') I have seen so many post lately talking bad about the Community, Forums, blogs, quality and so on...
Sorry for my lack of understanding and hope you still get a good time on SCN -:D
Greetings,
Blag.

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