Running Classic apps on newer systems

Since Classic Environment no longer works with Intel processors and newer OS X versions, what would be the best way to run an OS 9 application on a newer system? Are there emulators out there that would work well?

I don't know of any way to run Classic on an Intel Mac. You could probably pick up a PowerPC Mac for not too much money and use it.

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Has anyone used Migration Assistant to move services from one system running Server to a new system?

So, I've purchased a Mac mini to replace my aging Mid 2009 mini on which I've been running Mavericks Server. In trying to answer the question of how best to move services from the old machine to the new, I've stumbled into the fact that Migration Assistant can apparently migrate not just user data for workstations and laptops, but also service data for servers. The problem is there isn't much detail in the docs about how good a job it does when going from one machine to another without changing OS releases. There's a very detailed document in the KB about going from older versions of Server to new (OS X Server: Upgrade and migration from Lion Server or Snow Leopard Server) and a general doc on migrating from another Mac under Mavericks (OS X: How to migrate data from another Mac using Mavericks) but that has no details about Server.
Has anyone used Migration Assistant to move services from one system running Server to a new system? Are there any details that are particularly important to get right? Are there things that require manual steps after Migration Assistant is done?
There are other ways I could tackle the problem, of course. I could simply swap drives between the systems, but the new system has two drives that are bigger, faster, and I intend to mirror them. That would complicate such an approach. I'd really like to keep the conversation constrained to a discussion of Migration Assistant as the primary method.

yes. I migrated a server frm lion to mavericks following these notes a while back:
OS X Server: Upgrade and migration from Mountain Lion
i do not recall having any problems with it.

How to run classic apps on a Macbook

I do not know where to post this, so excuse me if this is OT. But I ran into this page
http://www.applelinks.com/index.php/more/sheepshaver23_enables_you_to_run_classic_macos_programs_onmacintels/
I suppose this is a shareware app (not a commercial app) that allows one to run PPC apps and 68K apps on a Intel Mac. Is this correct? If it is, does one need a ROM image? If so I am out of luck as all my PPC native Macs
(well with the exception to my ibook G4) have been given away (could not get a penny out of the Performa's).
Also can I run this app on my ibook? I have a old game created in 1989 that for whatever reason cannot run in classic mode (the game ran fine in my Performa 6360 under 9.1). I have tried to get the developer to create an upgrade, but he refuses, and the company that owns the copyright to the game is out of the Mac business, and besides they would not be too happy about him updating the game to run under OSX. So it looks like since I lack a native OS 9 Mac, I am out of luck.
John

This is an open-source project. You can get more information here:
http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:sheepshaver
You do need a ROM image to make this work.

Printing from Classic App to new HP printer

My new HP 6988dt will not print from a Classic App. Is there a Classic printer driver that will produce a file that could then be printed? (Something like the "Save as PDF" option in OS X print dialog.)
Pete

Greg,
LaserWriter 8 requires an active Appletalk but I can't make it active - it keeps saying I have to be connected to an Appletalk network. I have Appletalk turned on in Network preferences (using ethernet) since I attempt to communicate with an iMac on occasion but that doesn't.
I posed a similar question in the Classic forum and received info about a shareware Classic print driver called PrintToPDF which does produce a pdf file. This requires the extra step of printing the pdf file but at least I can get to the printer.
Thanks for your help. If you have a suggestion as to how I can get the LaserWriter 8 driver to function, I would like to try that route as it might be more direct.
In answer to Jerry's suggestion, I not only looked for a Classic driver, I emailed HP tech support. The world is moving too fast; I went looking for an update for my Scanjet 3670 and find HP isn't providing any support or even acknowledging it's existence except in archives.

Running Classic Apps on Intel Mac

Hi, I'm looking for a free and legal way to install and use classic apps. I don't have an "old" mac that runs classic, so I need an emulator or an app that can open these apps. Does anyone know any solutions?

Old Macs that run Mac OS 9 are quite cheap these days, and much more legal to obtain. See my FAQ*:
http://www.macmaps.com/usedrefurbished.html
http://www.macmaps.com/macosxnative.html
for references.
- * Links to my pages may give me compensation.

Running Classic Apps

Hi all...
Anyone advise me : how can i run my old OS9-applications from my iMac-intel based running 10.5???
please help me in few and clear words so i reach the stuff without reading a lot of webpages or help-articles....
Many thanks....

Your profile is a bit confusing, Can you list in your profile the computer(s) you have, including the one about which you are posting?
Dear Corneluis.... i have :
1) An Old G4 (Power Pc coming with MacOSX10.2 Original CD).
2) An Original Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger DVD that i bought after.
3) My Current iMac 2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (with the Original Mac OSX 10.5.x Tiger DVD coming with), and i am running now OSX 10.5.3
i really need to run the Classic over My iMac for many reasons ... So, i am asking if i can install the Tiger on my iMac (or in any external or internal linked HD) in order to Run Classic Via Tiger ...
You cannot run OS 9 or the Classic environment on an Intel based Mac. You need a PowerPC Mac, either G3, G4 or G5 or some earlier Macs.
Is it really impossible to Run Tiger on My iMac in any any way???? Using internal or external linked HD ??
Using any other Way??
Thanks

How can I run Classic on my new Imac 10.4.7?

I've recently had to buy a new computer which is fantastic, however all my work (I work as a freelance designer) runs on classic and I cant open any of them. Is there something I can download that will open classic for me? Is it possible to download OS 9 to run on my Imac?

Hi, cardsculptor -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
If your iMac is a brand new one, it has an Intel processor. None of the Intel processor Macs are supported by Apple for Classic, which is why it is not included as an installable item from the original disk set that came with the machine.
There is a 3rd-party emulator program, SheepShaver, which is designed to work with OS 9.0.4 or earlier in order to provide OS 9/Classic capability on Intel-based machines. It may or may not work for your purposes.

Running Classic Environment on new MacBook Pro

I need to use an old software program. It requires that I use the classic environment. Is there any way that I can run the classic environment on my new MacBook Pro running Snow Leapoard?

Hi, turtlepower -
Does this also apply to the new imac version 10.6.2.
Yes.
Classic is not supported by OSX 10.5 (Leopard) and later versions; and is not supported on any Intel-processor Mac.
Is there anything out there that will work?
The only way to use OS 9 on Intel machines or machines running OSX 10.5 and later is to use an emulator such as mohaas05 has suggested.
Whether running OS 9 in emulation will meet your needs is a different thing - some functions or programs will not work well, or at all. For example, programs that require direct access to the machine's hardware (such as many games do) will not do well in OS 9 in emulation.
Given that used machines capable of booting to OS 9 are quite inexpensive these days, getting one of them is often the best solution.

Running classic apps in 8600 under OSX 10.3 ?

Hi all
Not sure if the subject question is right but here goes. I have all my graphic apps and plenty of third party plugins running fine under OS 9.2 in my PM8600/300. Before I loose my apps and settings, is it possible to install OSX 10.3.9 in my 8600 without loosing and/or moving any of my apps, plugins & settings around?
I thought I'd ask before actually doing the install process.
Thanks
web dude

You won't like the performance, because the 8600 has a very slow 50 MHz system bus speed. Even a G3 processor upgrade card won't change the nature of the beast. Software developers really optimize their product to run efficiently on the current hardware's capabilities, so there's a reason why installation on older computers isn't recommended or supported. If you merely want to see how slow/bad it really is, you could go for it. I'd recommend saving your $$ and not bother maxing out the memory, because it's the remaining hardware limitations of the motherboard that will create a persistent bottleneck, affecting overall performance.

Can flash player app be run and controlled in a system with only command line?

I want to test my. flash app in a remote linux pc. I am not permitted to install desktop environment in that remote pc.
So I am wondering if I can use flashplayer_10_sa_debug to run my app in a system with only command line access.
And further, can I use some command option to interact with my app for doing something?
If not , how can I reach my goal? Can you give me some advices?

Hi,
Can we get a status update for this? This seems to have broken Mac Projector files when published from a PC. Our old CD-ROM presentations no longer work. They throw the same error.
Is there a bug ticket that we can follow? Any sort of timeline? I need to give an answer to my client on when this will be fixed. Telling them to disable Gatekeeper isn't really a great solution.

Cursor disappears while running Classic

We have one machine running Tiger and two still on Panther that have disappearing cursors when they run Classic apps, specifically QuarkXpress.
I saw several posts on this problem but didn't see any answers. Does anyone have one?
Thanks in advance.
Dan

This sounds like an old problem, fixed a while ago, by nVidia.
Visit the nVidia web site and download the latest drivers for your video card. Hopefully it's modern enough that they'll have new drivers for it that will solve your problem.
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Hope this helps you!
-Noel

Running Classic - depends on OS or on computer?

I'm a little unclear on this, so I hope you can help.
I have an iMac G5 (PowerPC, not Intel) purchased in 2004. My OS is 10.3.9. I can run Classic apps on it.
Soon I will be upgrading to Leopard.
It was my understanding that Classic support was gone for the more recent crop of Apple computers (MacBook, MacBook Pro, Intel-based iMacs, etc.) Since my computer is rather old (as far as computers go), I thought I would still be able to run Classic even after upgrading to Leopard. But someone told me that Leopard has no Classic environment. Is this true -- that ANY computer running Leopard is Classic-free?

Allan, you must have been reading my mind. I just posted my question about tweaks; and lo and behold, there was your answer.
Good advice. I'm perfectly happy to run everything in OS X, so Classic is not important to me. But it's good to be forewarned. I occasionally work with some files in a couple of pre-OS X versions of software. Now that I know about Classic's status in Leopard, I've exported these files to formats that will open in OS X or that can be imported into an OS X version of their original program.

Snow Leopard 10.6.2 takes a long time to run 'X11.app' (with system log)

Hello everyone, English is not my mother tongue so may not be exactly correct, sorry about that.
Background:
I have a MacBook White (13-inch, Mid 2009) that isn't unibody, and was running Leopard 10.5.
I did a clean installation and now Snow Leopard 10.6.2, with iLife, iWork, and many many apps.
I am the only one who will use the Mac and my user account is as the 'admin'.
I previously had a problem concerning X11 too:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2343732
*What I've done:*
(1) rename my HD to 'Michaels_Home' under 'Get Info' from Finder (I can't rename in Disk Utility though)
(2) press return (enter)
(3) change my home folder path to the '/Volumes/Michaels_Home/Users/Michael' (http://eshop.macsales.com/Reviews/Framework.cfm?page=Tips/relocate3/relocate3.ht ml)
(4) restart
(5) log in and open X11
(6) problem solved!!
==========
*BUT NOW* I have a problem after:
(1) log in as the root user, and use command +ditto -V xyz xyz+ to copy my home folder from '/Volumes/Michaels_Home/Users/Michael' to '/Users>Michael'
(2) change my home folder path to the '/Users/Michael' (http://eshop.macsales.com/Reviews/Framework.cfm?page=Tips/relocate3/relocate3.ht ml)
(3) use the Mac OS X Snow Leopard USD$29 disc to boot my Mac up
(4) delete the 'Michaels_Home' partition (I had 3 partitions: (1) Macintosh HD (2) Michaels_Home (3) Windows XP Professional)
(5) resize the 'Macintosh HD' partition
(6) boot from Macintosh HD
(7) find that there's a problem about X11
_The problem:_
it takes a *long time* for X11 to start.
When I try to open the 'X11.app', the X11 icon begins jumping on the Dock, but nothing happens.
Jumping and jumping... finally, it doesn't jump any more, with just the X11 icon on the dock.
What's more, there is no white dot under the icon, which means the app isn't running at the moment.
I right-clicked the icon, it shows me 'application not responding'.
So, I open the *Activity Monitor*, and I can see there are 3 apps related to X11 are running:
(1) X11
(2) X11.bin
(3) xauth
*At the moment now, if you would wait for about 1.5 min., X11 will open.*
Please see below for the system log (from 'FREEZING' to 'WORKING')
==========
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app: main(): argc=2
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[0] = /Applications/Utilities/X11.app/Contents/MacOS/X11.bin
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[1] = -psn0139298
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: Waiting for startup parameters via Mach IPC.
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: font_cache: Scanning user font directories to generate X11 font caches
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: font_cache: Updating FC cache
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 org.x.privileged_startx[344]: font_cache: Scanning system font directories to generate X11 font caches
Mar 1 00:42:10 n219073058253 defaults[370]: \nThe domain/default pair of (org.x.X11, dpi) does not exist
Mar 1 00:42:12 n219073058253 org.x.privileged_startx[344]: font_cache: Updating FC cache
Mar 1 00:42:13 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: font_cache: Done
Mar 1 00:42:14 n219073058253 org.x.privileged_startx[344]: font_cache: Done
Mar 1 00:42:31 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: xauth: timeout in locking authority file /Users/Michael/.serverauth.335
Mar 1 00:42:51 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: xauth: timeout in locking authority file /Users/Michael/.Xauthority
Mar 1 00:43:31: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Mar 1 00:43:31 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: xauth: timeout in locking authority file /Users/Michael/.Xauthority
Mar 1 00:43:51: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app: Listening on socket for fd handoff: (4) /var/tmp/tmp.0.9OYerf
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app: Thread created for handoff. Returning success to tell caller to connect and push the fd.
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app: Received new $DISPLAY fd: 6 ... sleeping to allow xinitrc to catchup.
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app: dostart_x11server(): argc=6
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[0] = /usr/X11/bin/X
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[1] =
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[2] = -nolisten
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[3] = tcp
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[4] = -auth
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[5] = /Users/Michael/.serverauth.335
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: Xquartz: Handoff connection established (try 1 of 5) on fd 6, "/var/tmp/tmp.0.9OYerf". Sending message.
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: Xquartz: Message sent. Closing handoff fd.
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: Xquartz starting:
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X.Org X Server 1.4.2-apple45
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: Build Date: 20090705
Mar 1 00:43:51 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: (EE) XKB: Couldn't open rules file /usr/X11/share/X11/xkb/rules/base
Mar 1 00:43:54: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app Handing off fd to server thread via DarwinListenOnOpenFD(6)
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: DarwinListenOnOpenFD: 6
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: Calling ListenOnOpenFD() for new fd: 6
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: X11.app: Launching /usr/X11/bin/xterm:
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[0] = /bin/sh
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[1] = -c
Mar 1 00:43:54 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: argv[2] = /usr/X11/bin/xterm
==========
I quit the X11:
==========
Mar 1 00:45:45 n219073058253 [0x0-0x22022].org.x.X11[327]: Quitting Xquartz...
Mar 1 00:45:45 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: /usr/X11/bin/xinit: connection to X server lost.
Mar 1 00:45:45 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: waiting for X server to shut down
==========
AFTER quitting X11, I can see something related X11 is stilling running:
==========
Mar 1 00:46:06 n219073058253 org.x.startx[335]: xauth: timeout in locking authority file /Users/Michael/.Xauthority
==========
So what actually causes this problem?
Thanks in advance!

It turns out that there's something wrong about permissions.
Here's the fix:
(1) log in as the +root user+
(2) type +chown -R Michael:staff ~Michael+
(3) log out the +root user+
(4) log in your account
(5) done!
Hope this thread will help those who encounter the same problem as me!

Error while clonning on a new system - APPS 11i

Hi all
i am facing an issue
i am cloning oracle apps 11i
i have run preclone before copying the db and app tiers
oracle apps version 11.5.10.2
DB 9.2.0.6.0
OS Windows 2003 32 bit with sp1
i have installed all the pre req
that are
MKS TOOLKIT
VC++
XML Parser
java sdk 6
now when i am running adcfgclone i am getting this below error and two java virtual machine launcher prompts which are
"Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
D:\proddb\92267d~1.0\appsutil\clone\jlib\CLASSE~1.JAR"
after i press ok then 2nd prompt come as this for java virtual machine launcher prompt
"Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
D:\proddb\92267d~1.0\appsutil\clone\jlib\rt.jar"
and after pressing ok it open automatically this zip file
D:\neproddb\9.2.0\appsutil\clone\jlib\xmlparserv2.zip
below is the copy paste from command prompt
perl adcfgclone.pl dbTier
Enter the APPS password [APPS]:
apps
First Creating a new context file for the cloned system.
The program is going to ask you for information about the new system:
Usage: java [-options] class [args...]
(to execute a class)
or java -jar [-options] jarfile [args...]
(to execute a jar file)
where options include:
-hotspot to select the "hotspot" VM
If present, the option to select the VM must be first.
The default VM is -hotspot.
-cp -classpath <directories and zip/jar files separated by ;>
set search path for application classes and resources
-D<name>=<value>
set a system property
-verbose[:class|gc|jni]
enable verbose output
-version print product version and exit
-showversion print product version and continue
-? -help print this help message
-X print help on non-standard options
ERROR: context creation not completed successfully.
Please check C:/DOCUME~1/ADMINI~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/adcfgclone.err file for errors
and this error file is not having anything inside it its empty
please help me out
thanks
hassan

Hi;
Did you set perl and perl5lib before start post clone?
Setting the Perl Environment PERL5LIB [ID 395294.1]
Common Perl Setup Issues and Solutions for E-Business Suite 11i [ID 404055.1]
Did you check clone log for any other error message?
Regard
Helios

Do I need System Folder to run Classic in 10.4.6?

I've just bought a new MacBook Pro last night, and in the process of transferring data from my old PowerBook via FireWire connection (the automatic way) it created a number of folders that said "[title of folder] (from old Mac)". In nearly every case, this was accompanied by another folder without the "(from old Mac)" text. One that was only from the old Mac was the OS9 System Folder. Do I even need it, or is all the code necessary to run Classic embedded in 10.4.6?
Thanks in advance!

Hi Steve;
Instead of Hypercard, you might want to check into Revolution. There was a discussion of that on this thread; http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2072745&#2072745
Allan
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