Running classic on OS 10.4

I am in the process of purchasing a PowerBook with OS 10.4. Currently I am on 10.2.8. I have softwares that still run on OS 9. Which I still use. I was looking at OS 10.4 and didn't see a classic. Can someone tell me is there a way to run classic on 10.4? I don't want to have 2 computers. Thank you.

Hi Sonia,
Welcome to Discussions!
--> If you buy a new PowerBook, Classic system folders will be (most probably, I didn't buy a PB myself) situated in the "Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test" disc that came with it. They won't be preinstalled by default.
In some cases the Software Restore icon and everything else is all in one DVD.
In some other cases it's on a separate CD.
Anyway,
to install Classic, you'll have to first boot from this "Additional Software & Apple Hardware Test" (or "Software Restore") disc, and follow the Custom Install prompts.
So:
Insert the DVD or CD and restart with the C key depressed (not the Option key).
If you restart with the Option key depressed, choose the DVD or CD as a startup disk (well, disc, in this case).
--> If you just buy a Tiger DVD to install it on your old computer, you'll have to take Classic from your old computer's Software Restore disc.
HTH
Axl

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