Running Home Hub 3 as a modem? (bridged/connected ...

Hey all.
Looking to connect a Home Hub 3 to the WAN port of a Linksys WRT54GL and have it act as a modem only, (just pass an IP address along). With the 54GL doing all the managment of my network.
Done it before with an O2 Thomson, but can't find much info full stop about the Home Hub 3 on google, so hoping someone might be able to help, or point me in the direction of some threads/guides?
I know it would be easier to just buy a decent ADSL2+ router, but the Linksys is like a member of the family.
Thanks.

Thanks for reply.
Got nothing against the HH3, just prefer my Linksys running CF as is capable of so much more. Initally I ended up with the O2/Linksys setup years ago as a short term bodge due to lack of funds for the decent ADSL2+ router I needed, but worked so well it got left like it and still not feeling the benefit from Wireless N is enough to justify splashing out. Gigabit ethernet would be nice, but not like I stream HD content or have NAS, so better things to spend the monies on for now.
Will have a google around on the HH2, would take a nudge in the right direction at this point, as seem to have forgotten everything I ever learned about routers lol. Cant even get Telnet access to the **bleep** thing! (swear filter fail)
Cheers.

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