Running Logic 9 + Leopard from External FW 400 drive: good idea?

Hi All,
I'd like to take the plunge to Logic 9 and figured I'd set up a dedicated external hard drive with just the system and Logic on it. This is for a G5 Quad running 10.5.8.
The idea would be the hard drive and system install would remain "pure" for Logic.
However, the drive would be attached via Firewire 400 rather than internal SATA.
Does the drawback of an external drive over firewire 400 running both the system and Logic outweigh the benefit of booting from a dedicated Logic drive?
(Want to get started on Logic 9 but don't want to put too much money into my G5 since I'd rather put any new computer money towards a new, intel machine).
Just a thought.
Thanks for any advice.

I understand you don't want to spend money on your G5, but maybe consider buying a new drive and partitioning it so that it's a dual boot system - Logic 9 on one, everything else on the other, which you've cloned from your existing drive. That leaves your other internal bay for an audio drive.
HDs are so cheap these days - I just bought some 1TB Barracudas for under $100 each, and it won't be wasted - you can plop it into your new machine when you get it.

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Thanks for the reply. Yes the MBP is currently running Tiger, I want to flatten this with a fresh install of Leopard. I can view the install DVD when in Tiger currently.
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Just so I understand this correctly:
1. Your internal hard drive is on Tiger?
2. Your external (a WD) is on Snow Leopard?
3. Where is the "partition"? Do you have either drive partitioned?
4. You only have the problems when you are booted from/working on something using the external drive?
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