Running Mac Pro constantly - good or bad?
Since I stream all my content to my apple tv, my Mac Pro runs all the time. In fact, I only restart it once every other month or so. Since it is always streaming, it never sleeps either (nor do I let it).
Everything appears to be running normal, but I just want to make sure this is OK. It was quite an investment, and I need to know if I am decreasing the life of my Mac (or wearing anything out).
Thanks.
Most frequent answer to "run or sleep" overnight is: Set the monitor to sleep, let the system and hard drive run.
But that answer is getting old because I don't think that, after 10.3, we need to leave the system run to run the chron scripts.
Also consider: sleep versus shut down is choice of energy consumption (i.e., electric bills).
I think you will find that there is little information about the effect of running a given Mac (or any computer we will likely own) constantly (for "x years") because- such computers are "by design" going to lose their usefulness before they "break down from over-use."
Possibly a helpful example will clarify what I'm trying to say:
In 1999, I bought an Apple LC II - made in 1993. I kept it running for a couple years - until the hard drive failed. It would have been simple to replace the hard drive and I could have kept it running even longer. But - that Mac was using OS 7.5.5! - So it was waay out of date and usefulness. Easier and more effective to just buy a new iMac (at the time).
I got my eMac in Aug. 2003: it still runs, it is "adequate" for routine use and will probably remain so for a bit longer. Right now, it is in sleep mode in the next room. I have used that eMac at least 6 hours a day since I got it. (And it's been in screen-only sleep mode most of the rest of the time.) But when I want to "keep up" with Apple technology (and my own needs) - I have to buy a newer Mac with (in this case Intel) newer processor and newer version of operating system and newer versions of critical apps.
"I wonder what the recommended procedure is for running a Mac Pro (or any Mac for that matter). Shutdown at night? Sleep at night?" --
You may find a consensus or "average" answer to that question. I don't believe you will find the "definitive" answer because the Mac Pro is designed to satisfy a variety of personal and business needs. Ultimately: you should establish your own needs and set at least a rough "schedule" during which the Mac Pro is either in sleep mode or running.
Sorry if I seem "vague" - but the above is per my experience. It's all probabilities in the end: probably, you will not have a problem caused by keeping the Mac Pro running "indefinitely." Be consoled the Mac Pro isn't limited to the "unitized" or all-in-one construction scheme; you can replace most vital parts in a Mac Pro yourself.
Personally, I think if I continue keeping, maintaining and using my Mac Pro as I have my previous Macs, I will have this Mac Pro for even longer (4 or more years) than I had the earlier ones.
Also - the "standard rule" for any Mac or PC is to keep backups of your data and to keep a bootable 2nd drive installed in case of emergencies. But you probably have heard that advice a dozen times already.
Regards,
macnoel
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Interval Since Last Panic Report: 27009 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 1
Anonymous UUID: *********
Fri May 3 05:40:33 2013
panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff800c6b7e95): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f8d5c467a, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000000000040, CR3: 0x000000000ef7f000, CR4: 0x0000000000000660
RAX: 0x0000000000000000, RBX: 0xffffff7f8ccb9d10, RCX: 0x0000000000000000, RDX: 0xffffff7f8ccb2be8
RSP: 0xffffff8118dcbd00, RBP: 0xffffff8118dcbd30, RSI: 0xffffff801f0faf00, RDI: 0xffffff801f17e840
R8: 0x0000000000000001, R9: 0x0000000000000001, R10: 0xffffff801ef63fc0, R11: 0xffffff800ca47120
R12: 0xffffff802264ec00, R13: 0xffffff8118dcbd00, R14: 0xffffff801f386000, R15: 0xffffff8033952948
RFL: 0x0000000000010246, RIP: 0xffffff7f8d5c467a, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
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Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff8118dcb9a0 : 0xffffff800c61d626
0xffffff8118dcba10 : 0xffffff800c6b7e95
0xffffff8118dcbbe0 : 0xffffff800c6cd4dd
0xffffff8118dcbc00 : 0xffffff7f8d5c467a
0xffffff8118dcbd30 : 0xffffff800ca31c77
0xffffff8118dcbd40 : 0xffffff800ca2fc29
0xffffff8118dcbd80 : 0xffffff800ca2e4fb
0xffffff8118dcbdc0 : 0xffffff800ca2e0f7
0xffffff8118dcbe30 : 0xffffff800ca2f75c
0xffffff8118dcbe40 : 0xffffff7f8cc9305b
0xffffff8118dcbe70 : 0xffffff7f8d7a0252
0xffffff8118dcbeb0 : 0xffffff7f8d7a3ad0
0xffffff8118dcbee0 : 0xffffff7f8d7a3fd8
0xffffff8118dcbf40 : 0xffffff7f8d79f3c1
0xffffff8118dcbf60 : 0xffffff800c63dcfe
0xffffff8118dcbfb0 : 0xffffff800c6b2977
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com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(5.5.5)[A276B40E-978D-3623-93D3-8621B3CEECFC]@0xffff ff7f8cc7f000->0xffffff7f8ccdafff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f8cc44000
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub(5.5.5)[54546EC2-8891-334B-9626-1EF6A02450DE]@0xfff fff7f8d795000->0xffffff7f8d7a9fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(5.5.5)[A276B40E-978D-3623-93D3-8621B3CEECFC]@0xffff ff7f8cc7f000
com.motu.driver.FireWireAudio(1.6)[00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000]@0xffff ff7f8d56b000->0xffffff7f8d5ecfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(5.5.5)[A276B40E-978D-3623-93D3-8621B3CEECFC]@0xffff ff7f8cc7f000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily(1.8.1)[FD2B6401-9BFA-32D5-ABEB-E523C061548D]@0xffff ff7f8d426000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAudioFamily(1.8.9fc11)[AB8DD2DD-43BD-3B7B-95F7-26E6E0BBF339]@ 0xffffff7f8d4ad000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily(4.5.5)[BFC15D10-EE0B-342D-9C00-8BF529DFAA6C]@0 xffffff7f8d4e7000
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Mac OS version:
12D78
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.3.0: Sun Jan 6 22:37:10 PST 2013; root:xnu-2050.22.13~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 3EB7D8A7-C2D3-32EC-80F4-AB37D61492C6
Kernel slide: 0x000000000c400000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff800c600000
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http://macperformanceguide.com/Mac-HowToClone.html
http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7032/carbon-copy-cloner
http://www.macperformanceguide.com/blog/2012/20120711_2-MacPro-internal-clone-ba ckup.html
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Sep 19 15:24:54 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Wake reason: ? (Network)
Sep 19 15:25:34 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Wake reason: ? (Network)
Sep 19 15:34:55 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Wake reason: ? (Network)
Sep 19 15:35:35 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Wake reason: ? (Network)
Sep 19 15:44:55 localhost kernel[0] <Debug>: Wake reason: ? (Network)
it says wake reason ? network but i have no clue what tha is. i am connected to ethernet from a wndr4500 router netgear.Please read this whole message before doing anything.
I've tested these instructions only with the Safari web browser. If you use another browser, they may not work as described.
This procedure is a diagnostic test. It won’t solve your problem. Don’t be disappointed when you find that nothing has changed after you complete it.
Third-party system modifications are a common cause of usability problems. By a “system modification,” I mean software that affects the operation of other software — potentially for the worse. The following procedure will help identify which such modifications you've installed. Don’t be alarmed by the complexity of these instructions — they’re easy to carry out and won’t change anything on your Mac.
These steps are to be taken while booted in “normal” mode, not in safe mode. If you’re now running in safe mode, reboot as usual before continuing.
Below are instructions to enter some UNIX shell commands. The commands are harmless, but they must be entered exactly as given in order to work. If you have doubts about the safety of the procedure suggested here, search this site for other discussions in which it’s been followed without any report of ill effects.
Some of the commands will line-wrap or scroll in your browser, but each one is really just a single line, all of which must be selected. You can accomplish this easily by triple-clicking anywhere in the line. The whole line will highlight, and you can then copy it. The headings “Step 1” and so on are not part of the commands.
Note: If you have more than one user account, Step 2 must be taken as an administrator. Ordinarily that would be the user created automatically when you booted the system for the first time. The other steps should be taken as the user who has the problem, if different. Most personal Macs have only one user, and in that case this paragraph doesn’t apply.
Launch the Terminal application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Terminal in the icon grid.
When you launch Terminal, a text window will open with a line already in it, ending either in a dollar sign (“$”) or a percent sign (“%”). If you get the percent sign, enter “sh” and press return. You should then get a new line ending in a dollar sign.
Step 1
Triple-click the line of text below on this page to select it:
kextstat -kl | awk '!/com\.apple/{printf "%s %s\n", $6, $7}' | open -ef
Copy the selected text to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Then click anywhere in the Terminal window and paste (command-V). A TextEdit window will open with the output of the command. If the command produced no output, the window will be empty. Post the contents of the TextEdit window (not the Terminal window), if any — the text, please, not a screenshot. You can then close the TextEdit window. The title of the window doesn't matter, and you don't need to post that. No typing is involved in this step.
Step 2
Repeat with this line:
{ sudo launchctl list | sed 1d | awk '!/0x|com\.(apple|openssh|vix\.cron)|org\.(amav|apac|cups|isc|ntp|postf|x)/{print $3}'; echo; sudo defaults read com.apple.loginwindow LoginHook; echo; sudo crontab -l; } 2> /dev/null | open -ef
This time you'll be prompted for your login password, which you do have to type. Nothing will be displayed when you type it. Type it carefully and then press return. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. Heed that warning, but don't post it. If you see a message that your username "is not in the sudoers file," then you're not logged in as an administrator.
Note: If you don’t have a login password, you’ll need to set one before taking this step. If that’s not possible, skip to the next step.
Step 3
{ launchctl list | sed 1d | awk '!/0x|com\.apple|org\.(x|openbsd)/{print $3}'; echo; crontab -l 2> /dev/null; } | open -ef
Step 4
ls -A /e*/{cr,la,mach}* {,/}Lib*/{Ad,Compon,Ex,Fram,In,Keyb,La,Mail/Bu,P*P,Priv,Qu,Scripti,Servi,Spo,Sta}* L*/Fonts .la* 2> /dev/null | open -ef
Important: If you formerly synchronized with a MobileMe account, your me.com email address may appear in the output of the above command. If so, anonymize it before posting.
Step 5
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I've restarted my iPhone.
Restarted my iMac.
Re-installing iTunes.
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Is it possible to run apps concurrently in different "Users" on Mac Pro in latest OSX?
I wish to continuously monitor different folders in Dropbox for "input transactions" destined for my
applications on my Mac Pro, where each Dropbox folder represents different input types from different
sources. It would speed up the process significantly if my monitor program could run concurrently from
each of several defined "Users" on my Mac Pro with OSX.Thank you for your response. Let me give you some more facts on my situation.
My monitor, running on a Mac Pro, reads folders owned by my clients, where the folders are shared
thru Dropbox with my service. So, yes, my monitor is "reading" different Dropbox member's folders looking for
"input" files to my service. My monitor is programmed (with a list) of the various clients' folders
names in which to search. Obviously, there is some number of clients (and folders) where the monitor
begins to take several seconds (too long) to scan and service, merely due to the sheer number of folders being
scanned. So, if I could create a second User on the Mac Pro, and run another (copy) of the monitor
programmed with another unique list of folders NOT being serviced by the monitor in the first
User, and (here's the problem) both monitors were running CONCURRENTLY, then the total number of
folders (and clients) being serviced could possibly almost double. Then, I could add a third User, then
a fourth, etc. to handle even more clients and folders.
The giant problem here is, each separate User does NOT run concurrently with the others, certainly where
all are logged in and "running". Actually, it appears OSX only executes programs within ONE user at a
time: the one in focus at the time. It so happens that OSX multitasks within that one User the differently-named
programs quite well; but OSX does not (continue to) execute anything in other Users, until another
User is manually switched to. Therefore, in my case, I can only run one monitor in one User at a time, thus ruining any benefit I might otherwise achieve IF OSX ran programs concurrently in multiple Users, another form of multitasking that apparently OSX is not designed to do. My monitors run with Excel VBA, which becomes the name of that program within
one User, so I am limited to running only 1 monitor per User. (Groups don't help.). On the other hand, It might help a little if
my monitor somehow could switch between OSX Users programmatically, rather than manually...I do not want
to sit at my Mac Pro constantly and manually fast-switching between Users to even attempt to solve my problem. Rather, I want
the software to run concurrently 24/7 unattended to successfully provide the service promised to all.
So, because there are lots of brilliant folks that know a lot about MACs and OSX, certainly more than me, I
am wondering IF someone knows how to get OSX to multitask across more than one User at a time, which
would solve my dilemma?? Maybe it's just not possible, I don't know...
Also, would OSX Server edition maybe be better suited to solve my problem? I know nothing about the Server's capability.
I would also hate to have to run Windows on my Mac Pro to solve this. Would VMware/Fusion work here?
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Hello All
I have a Mac Pro 2008, 3,1, 2.8ghz 2xQuad core. It is over 4 years old. I'm editing in Premiere Pro CS5.5 and I have a NVidia Quadro 4000 card and 24GB of RAM and SSD startup drive and multiple RAID 0 internal and eSATA RAID 5 Qx2 enclosures and eSATA PCI cards. I believe I've maxed out the performance. I was waiting for the new Apple Mac Pro update to make buying a new Mac Pro a good decision. I really don't want to go over to Windows, not to mention the hugh amount of software I'd have to convert over.
However, Apple's update seems weak and outdated and leaves me undecided. Many mention the 6 core as the 'sweet spot', in price vs performance, but I'm wondering really how much of a boost I'll get over my current system. I'm also contemplating building a super high end Hackintosh but that doesn't seem appealing either as doing it in Xeon will be prohibitively expensive not to mention possibly flakey with Mac OS X. I suppose I could also wait for HP or Dell to come out with their E5 offerings and try to put Hackintosh software on that, but again, seems like asking for trouble.
The good thing about updating to a newer Mac pro is that my internal drives, RAIDs PCI cards and peripherals will just work, I will have minimal down time when I switch. Bad thing is 2 year old technology with brand new tech in the G5 Xeons just around the corner.
Right now I really want Premiere Pro to be smooth when natively playing back a combination of AVCHD, H.264 and other files and effects. It's just on the cusp of being too sluggish with my current configuration. From what I can see, I may double the performance if I go to the single 6 core 3.33, which seems to be a good deal as of the refresh. However, I'm not sure if doubling is what I want considering the money and trouble spent on a new system. At the same time I have heard reports that Premiere Pro and Mac OS X don't do too well with more than 12 cores, the multi-threading isn't taken advantage of and can actually slow down the system. So I am still in a quandry.
Any advice is much appreciated
Regards,
-KeithI had the exact same conundrum about three months ago. After TONS of research, I decided to build my own PC and I am extremely happy I did. The CS5.5 Master Collection runs beautifully and I FINALLY have control over my hardware. You can put whatever Quadro card you want, whatever processor, RAM, and the list goes on...
And did I mention that I saved loads of money building it myself?
If you aren't afraid of a little bit if work, you can save a lot of money not having to buy overpriced Apple hardware. Also, with Adobe Cloud, you no longer need to worry about what platform you operate under (Windows 7 is a good operating system).
Just my two cents. I hope it helps!
-Keith (a differnet one) -
Why can´t I upgrade my Mac Pro to OS Mountain Lion?
Being a person with great interest in photography, video and moviemaking I made a big personal investment a couple of years ago in buying what I thought was the best available computer on the market for multimedia projects for the time being, that is a well equiped Mac Pro (Processor 2x3 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon with Memory 8 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 FB-DIMM). After that I also upgraded my Mac Pro with a better graphic card (ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB) and extra HDD´s Up till now there has been no problem to upgrade my computer to every new realesed OS software (latest OS X Lion 10.7.04) from Apple, but when recently trying to download the latest version of OSX, that is Mountain Lion, this posibility seems to have come to an endpoint! When I try to upgrade to Mountain Lion, I get the message that this is not possible with my Mac Pro (in which I for sure totally up til now have invested at least 70-80 000 swedish kronor (10 - 12 000 dollars).
Is this really so, and if so, why has Apple in this way seemingly abandoned all those earlier loyal customers over the world who by investing their money in Apple´s Pro line of products like Mac Pro´s, have contributed so much in building the good reputation and economic ground for the development of Apple in becoming such a sucessful company? Even if Mac Pro still is a strong and competive computer for the time being, this discontinuation of softwaresupport for the big stock of sold Mac Pro computers world wide, remarks a crossroad from where in the long run, Mac pro´s will become useless and therefore also worthless in such an extent that heir owners once more have to make investments in new hardware from Apple, taking for granted that they find it still being a value in being trustful to the Apple line of computer products.
While a company as a rule always willl find ways to make investments in new hardware of great quality if this is calculated to increase the income of the company, the sitaution is totally different for all independent and creative people over the world who have a much lower budget for their projects and as a rule get no profit from their work but their personal joy and emotional satisfaction.
Do I really have to through my Mac Pro away (it will probably be impossible to sell it to a worthy price after Apple now has discontinued supporting the development of it´s OS ) or do I have to buy a new Mac Book Pro with Retina Display and Thunderbolt Interface of latest version in order to feel safe in continuing using Apple´s Pro applications for multimedia projects foor the future with reliable continued support from Apple (and in that case for how long I ask myself), or is there any possibility to upgrade the hardware of my Mac Pro in order to upgrade to latest OS software and still feel being a member of the sanctioned Apple club?
Alternatively, maybe Apple can help all Mac Pro owners to make it possible to upgrade to needed Apple hardware and software line of their Pro applications, and thus continue to support Apple in using and inspire developing their products and Pro market shares as well as continue to spread their good reputation in this area, in supporting these reliable customers in some way, as an example by giving a discount to all Mac Pro owners upgrading to a new computer from Apple.
Maybe this in fact is the first step from Apple in a plan to soon stop selling the model Mac Pro because the latest compact Mac Book Pro´s already has exceeded the old clumpsy Mac Pro´s in function, versatility and potential for future development. If so this Apple´s decision is logic and understandable, but please don´t abondon all customers of Mac Pro´s all over the world who have been utterly fidele to Apple in helping the Company to spread the good reputation of Apples computers to ordinary people through the years and thus to a great extent have contributed in buildning the necessary market expectations that have made it possible for Apple to develop and sell new products to a continuing growing market by fulfilling and helping ordinary peoples daily needs. I believe that without these earlier pioneers and supporters of Apple´s ever innovative productline, its not taken for sure the Apple Company should have reached this all time incredible height of success we all can witness today...
Sincerely
Stefanis
PS/ Me and my family are true Apple customers and supporters in having all together 4 iPhones, 4 iPods, 1 iPad, 1 MacBook, 2 MacBook Pro´s, 1 Mac Pro, 1 Apple TV 2nd gen, 1 Apple TV 3rd gen and a lot of general and Pro Application (among them all iWork programs, Aperture, Final Cut Studio, Final Cut Pro X and Logic Pro).what a long post....Apple, btw, does not read this stuff, so ranting, raving, and complaining here might make you feel good, but it does no good at all. That being said, I, too have a Mac Pro Quad Core Xeon with 6 gigs of ram and an nVidia 8800 GT graphics card (not as good as yours, alas) and I've had no problems at all with it. Yes, it doesn't have Thunderbolt, but maybe we Mac pro owners will get lucky and someone will come out with an adapter (probably not). No, you probably don't have to throw away your Mac Pro, but if you do, I'll take it, for a small "recycling" fee >:-) That was a joke. Yes, the Mac Pro's future isn't quite clear, YET. Hopefully that will improve very soon. As for not being able to upgrade to Mountain Lion. Don't worry about that too much, Nobody is forcing you to do that. Your Mac Pro won't quit working if it isn't installed. From what I've heard, you should give the new OS a chance, and wait to get it, in case there might be some bugs, or stuff not working with the new OS, which has been known to happen. Yes, we Mac Pro owners don't like being treated like mushrooms-kept in the dark, and being fed......... but Apple is Apple and it will do what it does, and there is nothing you or me can really do to change that. All I can say is....trust, have faith, be patient, go for a walk, do something else to take your mind off of this problem. IF apple decides to drop the Mac Pro for good, and that's a big "IF", I think they will anger a whole bunch of people
which isn't good. However, that hasn't happened...YET. Let us hope that it doesn't
John B -
Mac pro 2009 bluetooth problems
Hey guys. gals... so... if you followed y previous saga of the quad core, you know it just got replaced by a eight from mac fro various maladies and problems. Yay me. Except..... the bluetooth f'n ***** on this thing....
It took an incredibly long time for it to pair with the keyboard... then the ghost pop up says "connection lost" like every 4 minutes if you aren't typing on it. which if you run photoshop day and night like never happens. So..... yeah. Mouse practically doesn't work either works half the time or super slow or like not at all.....
So....whats going on? I tried to plug in my old bluetooth adaptor from the quad core (which had an airport card that also died) and it tried to set up some sort of pan network, then the almost working bluetooth died, so I couldn't click around..
oh.. and I restored my entire system from time machine if that matters...?
Questions... if this is the fatal flaw in the mac pro line.. thats bad. So.....how do i
-turn off onboard bluetooth
-engage usb mounted bluetooth.
Thanks
mI'm having similar problems with a brand-new Mac Pro 8-core. Mouse cuts out (I'm using a wired keyboard thankfully) and my Jawbone headset will work wonderfully with my old MacBook Pro but will only pair (maybe) on my Mac Pro.
Called and spoke with an expert and feel I get the run around. He had me shut down and unplug everything for 30 seconds. I did it but felt he was just having me "do something" to get me off of the line.
Apple has a problem with Bluetooth on their Mac Pros and isn't dealing with it. -
Why did my Mac Pro crash on Mountain Lion?
Hi there,
My Mac Pro crashed twice yesterday. No logs were created in ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ for those as far as I can tell (nothing with the 28th as a date). The computer just turned itsself off, and restarted.
I repaired the boot drive by launching from a Snow Leopard disk. I ran Techtool diagnostic tests yesterday on the computer and everything passed (I skipped the boot drive surface scan, and only the 4 internal drives were connected.
Today, it turned off again, there was a grey screen I'd never seen before telling me that my mac would restart because of a problem, and boy, it did. It wasn't the typical 'kernel panic screen' I saw rarely in the past. This happened at 3:30 pm my time. There's an "AvidBinIndexer crash log that is timed at 9:22 am, but none at 3:30 pm. (Note that I've never looked in the diagnostic reports directory so I may not know what I'm looking at).
According to the files in the Diagnostic reports directory I've had crash logs since the 13th for Adobe, Avid, File Syncrhonization, qmaster, and Soundsource (for a total of 19 files in that directory, nothing before the 13th)
Now some background:
I run a Mac Pro 3,1 with 12 gigs of ram, an eSata card, ATI 5770 graphics card.
I have 4 internal and 6-7 external drives attached (4 esata, 1 firewire), 1-2 usb.
I upgraded to Mountain Lion on Jan 24 from Lion, however, this problem occured a few times before.
I had a USB backup drive that had volume problems, that I had to backup / reformat / repair, and so my first suspicion was that it was to blame. But no, today it rebooted and that drive wasn't connected. All other drives were however, and on. It occured just after I woke the computer from sleep.
Any ideas on what's up? What can I post here that could help someone diagnose this? Any things to try to further narrow down the issue?
Thanks!
Rickwhat a long post....Apple, btw, does not read this stuff, so ranting, raving, and complaining here might make you feel good, but it does no good at all. That being said, I, too have a Mac Pro Quad Core Xeon with 6 gigs of ram and an nVidia 8800 GT graphics card (not as good as yours, alas) and I've had no problems at all with it. Yes, it doesn't have Thunderbolt, but maybe we Mac pro owners will get lucky and someone will come out with an adapter (probably not). No, you probably don't have to throw away your Mac Pro, but if you do, I'll take it, for a small "recycling" fee >:-) That was a joke. Yes, the Mac Pro's future isn't quite clear, YET. Hopefully that will improve very soon. As for not being able to upgrade to Mountain Lion. Don't worry about that too much, Nobody is forcing you to do that. Your Mac Pro won't quit working if it isn't installed. From what I've heard, you should give the new OS a chance, and wait to get it, in case there might be some bugs, or stuff not working with the new OS, which has been known to happen. Yes, we Mac Pro owners don't like being treated like mushrooms-kept in the dark, and being fed......... but Apple is Apple and it will do what it does, and there is nothing you or me can really do to change that. All I can say is....trust, have faith, be patient, go for a walk, do something else to take your mind off of this problem. IF apple decides to drop the Mac Pro for good, and that's a big "IF", I think they will anger a whole bunch of people
which isn't good. However, that hasn't happened...YET. Let us hope that it doesn't
John B
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