Running old Mac software

I have al lot of data and old Mac software. After a number of Windows years I bought a MacBook and found out that this is not backwards compatible.
I need to run a major part of the old stuff for a celebration. So I think I should buy a second hand model which is able to to so.
What would be a suitable Mac? Which OS?

If all your stuff was readable on the 1996 Powerbook, it probably was moved mostly to 1.4 MB floppies. Those are readable with USB floppy drives in Mac OS X. The old 800k floppies with a single hole in the corner even changing the write protect tab are not readable by USB floppy drives and you would need a beige G3 to convert.
MacDraw documents are readable with Appleworks, or EazyDraw:
MacDraft has been upgraded:
http://www.microspot.com/products/macdraft/index.htm
Clarisworks is not easy to convert, though depending on your number of documents someone with Dataviz Maclinkplus can convert them to the word processor of your choice. Appleworks may be able to read Clarisworks documents as long as they are Clarisworks 4.
Filemaker has been updated.
You may find intermediary hardware or software through resources on my*:
http://www.macmaps.com/usedrefurbished.html
page.

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Is there a site somewhere to download old Mac software, specifically the Virtual PC software? I have a Mac Mini I bought in 2006 that does not have an Intel processor and will not run the new version of VMWare Fusion or Parallels. And now I find I can't even download the Virtual PC software I need from Apple. All they have is the 7.0.3 upgrade which is useless without the original. Can someone please steer me in the right direction? I love my Mac but I have one program, a book database from Spacejock software that won't run on a Mac that I really need to access. I just need a program I can run on my Mac so I can access that program! Please help! Thank you very much!

Ok, let's backtrack this a little bit. First off PearPC is not made for Macs to run Windows it's made for PC's to run Mac OS X for PPC in emulation. What you said you have is a Mac mini G4 system, This system will not run Mac OS 9.x natively, only as Classic mode so running VPC version 6 is out of the question. VPC was a commercial product made by Connectix which was acquired by Logitech (for the QuickCam product line) and then the VPC product was sold by Logitech to Microsoft, who no longer produces Mac versions of the product only PC and Server versions which won't help you. If you want VPC 7 you either need to buy a used copy of it on eBay or some other place, or you can buy MS Office 2004 w/VPC 7 bundled together sometimes also from eBay or some other place, depending on your needs. YES VPC IS SLOOOOW. No there is no other really good option for G4 systems that want to run Windows in emulation to get a Windows app to work. It's far simpler and easier to upgrade to an Intel Mac and use either CodeWeaver's Crossover, or VMWare Fusion or even Bootcamp. There are some other (some free and open source) Emulation solutions for running Windows on a G4 system, A product named "Q" comes to mind, but like VPC they're all slow and you have to furnish your own copy of Windows, just make sure you use a version of windows that is compatible with the app you want to run, look at it's product requirements The farther back in time you go with versions of Windows the less resource hungry and thereby faster they will run on a Emulator such as VPC, Q, BOCHS, etc..

Old Mac Software disks - any value?

I just found a bunch of old Mac software original disks (and a bunch of 3 1/2 inch disks)
Do they have any value to anyone?
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Larry Nebel

Larry,
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Backwards compatibility with old mac software.

A relative and I want to run some old software that (I'm assuming) would run on Mac os 3.2 or under. There are many possibilities on how to run this program. We could find an old macintosh & run it from there, buy an old version of mac os (possibly 9), or download the old os and run it from a virtualization (as long as its legal). Iv'e done a bunch of research, and noticed from OS X and up, the line of operating systems are coded differently then the older releases. So, in theory, would Mac OS 9 be able to run software from os 3.2 and under?
Optional question:
I understand that apple owns there software, and there agreement says you may run their software on their computers, (thus meaning the software is free, but the disc is not), but does that mean I can download the old operating system off the internet since its free? (or does apple have a copyright?) I want to make sure before I do anything wrong.

If you could post the name and exact version of the program in question, someone may be able to offer more specific advice.
Apple would probably not appreciate if their software is made available via third-party web sites. However, you can download complete system software 6.0.3, 6.0.5, 6.0.8, 7.0, 7.0.1 and 7.5.3 directly from Apple:
http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html#system
At least temporary access to a working older (pre-1998) Macintosh computer is typically required in order to produce floppy disks from downloaded files.
You may want to test whether, for example, System 6.0.8 (on a suitable Mac model) is compatible with the old program. Before you begin at all, it is usually not a bad idea to lock (write-protect) any old floppies, and then make backup copies of them (using a program such as Disk Copy 4.2).
http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html#util
Jan

Running old apple software under sheepshaver

Having finally successfully got sheepshaver v2.3 running, I now find that my old apps won't transfer or work!!!
Curses!
I've loaded up OS 8.5 from disc- after taking the disc out and giving it a good clean to get a full install- and it includes Simpletext, Apple FM Radio, Network Browser and Qicktime Pictureviewer and Movieplayer. These all load and text saved in Simpletext can be transferred as a file via the Unix folder on the virtual machine to the shared folder on the MacBook and opened with Textedit.
Attempts to move my old apps into the shared folder have led to some apps folders moving onto the desktop of the virtual machine and disappearing from the shared folder and some staying in the shared folder and appearing nowhere on the virtual machine. The folders on the virtual machine have documents and subfolders but appear to have lost the applications.
I am very puzzled.
I should add that I got the above sorted on 13.7.07 which was a Friday, so it may be a gremlin.
Any help/ advice/ cash/ ancient monuments will be gratefully received.
BTW- I've upgraded from OS7.5 via 8.6 from old PowerMacs that happily ran all my old apps. I hope to have at least ClarisWorks4 and MiniCad 6 running as I have a multitude of such files.

I've had this Intel 10.4 for a year and a half and don't run any Classic or earlier apps. I gave all the software to the folks that bought my G-3 and way back Preforma systems.
Yes good point elmac! The newer software for each system was always alot better and I could always bring my photo's and doc's to the new system. I would keep my systems for years then make a big jump to the newest system, the hardest part was that thrid party software was hard to come by and expensive.
I was just giving the OP something that may help them with that MiniCad 6 and other early software. I know the feeling, it hard to give away over a $1000.00 of old worthless software and a 8+ year old $2300.00+ computer for a $100 bill....
Dennis
17" iMac Intel Core Duo - 2GB Ram - Mac OS X (10.4.10) - Maxtor 300GB FireWire - Creative Inspire 2.1 - 2G Nano

Macbook pro compatibility with old mac software!??

Hello! I just got my Macbook pro, and i wanted to know if there was any way to get my old games from my oldschool PowerMac from like 1994 to play on it......it says its not compatible...and that makes me sad..
Thanks
Dan

If your old games are OS 9 programs, then they will not run on the Intel Macs. There is an emulator called SheepShaver (www.macupdate.com) that will run OS 9. Then there's the Mini vMac that emulates an old Mac Plus.
If it's a PPC application and doesn't work then it simply isn't compatible with Rosetta.

How to run old Mac OS & apps

Hi,
Recently, a co-worker showed me that he is able to run really old Windows versions inside a window on his XP desktop. He called a virtual machine. I am not Windows user, but this is one feature that seems to be very cool. Question, is this capability available for OSX? I still have my original system disks, Apple and Claris app disks from my high school SE, the SE died long ago but I would love to run those again for their beautiful simplicity.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Will

While you wouldn't be able to run a virtual machine to do this you could use an emulator. Essentially a virtual machine makes use of the hardware in a machine, the emulator is required to emulate different hardware.
Depending on what version of the OS you wanted to run and which hardware you wanted to emulate, you could use SheepShaver (PPC emulation, system 8-9) or Basilisk II (68k emulation like your SE, system 7 and below). Updated versions of both of these for OS X are available at http://www.emaculation.com/forum/
The caveat of these emulators is that you need access to a Mac ROM file. To legitimately have a ROM you need to own the physical machine/ROM that the ROM image is pulled from (there's utilities to copy the ROM available). SheepShaver can use the ROM file from the System Install disks I believe.

I have old mac software 10.3.9 and the only firefox that works with it is 2.0.0.20. i cannot afford a new laptop or software. which upgrade will work with my G4 powerbook built in 2004

''Duplicate post, continue here - [https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/785589]''
when i tried to upgrade in the past, i could access NOTHING. the only upgrade that would work with my mac osx 10.3.9 was the firefox 2.0.0.20.
please let me know which of your upgrades will work with my operating system.
i cannot lose contact with all my accounts. that is what happened the last time i tried to upgrade.

Firefox 2.0.0.20 is the last version of Firefox that works on OS X 10.3.9
There are some alternative browsers you can try:
* iCab - http://www.icab.de/dl.php
* Classilla - http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/
* SeaMonkey 1.19 - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.19/

Why I can not run the mac software purchased from Ancestry for Family Tree Maker 2 or 4

The software would not sync with ancestry family tree macker with out crashing when trying to sync.. This was both the FTM for Mac 2 and FTM for Mac 4.

According to RoaringApps, FTM is not known to be compatible with Mavericks. I would contact the developer.
http://roaringapps.com/apps?index=f
http://www.familytreemaker.com

Intel Mac software...now

Here is a listing of natively running intel mac software.
See here
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Click here and install the software.
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Just got a new imac and my iwork software wont work. I have the serial numbers but after migrating from my old mac running OSX tiger it won't even give me that opportunity. I do not have any discs as this was downloaded. Help

Just got a new imac and my iwork software wont work. I have the serial numbers but after migrating from my old mac running OSX tiger it won't even give me that opportunity. I do not have any discs as this was downloaded. Help

Hi, hopefully you guys can help me out, I just
purchased a G5 iMac to replace my aging dell desktop,
and now i'm more or less completely os x dependant
(I've had an ibook for a few months now). Anyway, I
have a few questions:
1. Does anyone know of a (free) mail notifier tool,
that will alert me when I recieve new pop3 mail? I
used to use AIM for this in windows
The built in email program does sound an alert for new messages.
2. Anyone know of a good (free, again) IRC client?
iChat works well.
3. I noticed earlier that my screen was flickering,
it seems to have subsided for now, but is that normal
to encounter in a new display? It wasn't really bad
flicker, but I could see it.
No idea.
4. I leave my desktops on 24/7x365, will that be a
problem with this iMac? Display shuts off of course
after 30 mins
You could set the iMac to go to sleep after non use. My Macs are
always sleeping when not in use, waking them up takes seconds.
Unlike windoze, never knew if it would be locked up or not.
5. Should I get the extended warranty? I'm usually
against them, but I am expecting this computer to
last me at least 3 years (for $1300 it better!)
before I upgrade, as I got that much out of a Dell
and from what I understand, Mac's do not age nearly
as fast as Windows pc's.
It is well worth the cost. Never know what might happen. Also
it is good insurance for future upgrades. I traded in my G4 tower
purchased two years ago for 75% of what I paid for it. Apple care
transfers, giving the buyer the remainder of your warranty.
Thank you for any help,
-Evan

I was running remote desktop on my old mac pro running 10.4.11. Upgraded to new pro running 10.6.7 Can I get remote desktop to run on new computer?

I was running remote desktop on my old mac pro running 10.4.11 Just upgraded to new pro running 10.6.7 Can I get my previous remote desktop to
run on new computer?
Thanks

Are you talking Apple's Remote Desktop software, or Microsoft's?

HT1338 Purchased a used macbook pro with Mountain Lion. My old Mac runs Snow Leopard is backed up to Time machine. How do I register the operating system to me and how do I use Time Machine to move my files to the new used computer?

Purchased a used macbook pro with Mountain Lion. My old Mac runs Snow Leopard is backed up to Time machine. How do I register the operating system to me and how do I use Time Machine to move my files to the new used computer?

If you look at the User Tips tab, you will find a write up on just this subject:
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4053
The subject of buying/selling a Mac is quite complicated. Here is a guide to the steps involved. It is from the Seller's point of view, but easily read the other way too:
SELLING A MAC A
Internet Recovery, and Transferability of OS & iLife Apps
Selling an Old Mac:
• When selling an old Mac, the only OS that is legally transferable is the one that came preinstalled when the Mac was new. Selling a Mac with an upgraded OS isn't doing the new owner any favors. Attempting to do so will only result in headaches since the upgraded OS can't be registered by the new owner. If a clean install becomes necessary, they won't be able to do so and will be forced to install the original OS via Internet Recovery. Best to simply erase the drive and revert back to the original OS prior to selling any Mac.
• Additionally, upgrading the OS on a Mac you intend to sell means that you are leaving personally identifiable information on the Mac since the only way to upgrade the OS involves using your own AppleID to download the upgrade from the App Store. So there will be traces of your info and user account left behind. Again, best to erase the drive and revert to the original OS via Internet Recovery.
Internet Recovery:
• In the event that the OS has been upgraded to a newer version (i.e. Lion to Mountain Lion), Internet Recovery will offer the version of the OS that originally came with the Mac. So while booting to the Recovery Disk will show Mountain Lion as available for reinstall since that is the current version running, Internet Recovery, on the other hand, will only show Lion available since that was the OS shipped with that particular Mac.
• Though the Mac came with a particular version of Mac OS X, it appears that, when Internet Recovery is invoked, the most recent update of that version may be applied. (i.e. if the Mac originally came with 10.7.3, Internet Recovery may install a more recent update like 10.7.5)
iLife Apps:
• When the App Store is launched for the first time it will report that the iLife apps are available for the user to Accept under the Purchases section. The user will be required to enter their AppleID during the Acceptance process. From that point on the iLife apps will be tied to the AppleID used to Accept them. The user will be allowed to download the apps to other Macs they own if they wish using the same AppleID used to Accept them.
• Once Accepted on the new Mac, the iLife apps can not be transferred to any future owner when the Mac is sold. Attempting to use an AppleID after the apps have already been accepted using a different AppleID will result in the App Store reporting "These apps were already assigned to another Apple ID".
• It appears, however, that the iLife Apps do not automatically go to the first owner of the Mac. It's quite possible that the original owner, either by choice or neglect, never Accepted the iLife apps in the App Store. As a result, a future owner of the Mac may be able to successfully Accept the apps and retain them for themselves using their own AppleID. Bottom Line: Whoever Accepts the iLife apps first gets to keep them.
SELLING A MAC B
Follow these instructions step by step to prepare a Mac for sale:
Step One - Back up your data:
A. If you have any Virtual PCs shut them down. They cannot be in their "fast saved" state. They must be shut down from inside Windows.
B. Clone to an external drive using using Carbon Copy Cloner.
1. Open Carbon Copy Cloner.
2. Select the Source volume from the Select a source drop down menu on the left side.
3. Select the Destination volume from the Select a destination drop down menu on the right
side.
4. Click on the Clone button. If you are prompted about creating a clone of the Recovery HD be
sure to opt for that.
Destination means a freshly erased external backup drive. Source means the internal
startup drive.
Step Two - Prepare the machine for the new buyer:
1. De-authorize the computer in iTunes! De-authorize both iTunes and Audible accounts.
2, Remove any Open Firmware passwords or Firmware passwords.
3. Turn the brightness full up and volume nearly so.
4. Turn off File Vault, if enabled.
5. Disable iCloud, if enabled: See.What to do with iCloud before selling your computer
Step Three - Install a fresh OS:
A. Snow Leopard and earlier versions of OS X
1. Insert the original OS X install CD/DVD that came with your computer.
2. Restart the computer while holding down the C key to boot from the CD/DVD.
3. Select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu; repartition and reformat the internal hard drive.
Optionally, click on the Security button and set the Zero Data option to one-pass.
4. Install OS X.
5. Upon completion DO NOT restart the computer.
6. Shutdown the computer.
B. Lion and Mountain Lion (if pre-installed on the computer at purchase*)
Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet if possible because
it is three times faster than wireless.
1. Restart the computer while holding down the COMMAND and R keys until the Mac OS X
Utilities window appears.
2. Select Disk Utility from the Mac OS X Utilities window and click on the Continue button.
3. After DU loads select your startup volume (usually Macintosh HD) from the left side list. Click
on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
4. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Optionally, click on the Security button
and set the Zero Data option to one-pass.
5. Click on the Erase button and wait until the process has completed.
6. Quit DU and return to the Mac OS X Utilities window.
7. Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion and click on the Install button.
8. Upon completion shutdown the computer.
*If your computer came with Lion or Mountain Lion pre-installed then you are entitled to transfer your license once. If you purchased Lion or Mountain Lion from the App Store then you cannot transfer your license to another party. In the case of the latter you should install the original version of OS X that came with your computer. You need to repartition the hard drive as well as reformat it; this will assure that the Recovery HD partition is removed. See Step Three above. You may verify these requirements by reviewing your OS X Software License.

Hello, I am running a Mac book pro soft. 10.5.8 version. Since june the current year I did not get any updates for the software or any kinds of other application, in my opinion that's weird for such a company.

Hello, I am running a Mac book pro soft. 10.5.8 version. Since June the current year I did not get any updates for the software or any kinds of the other application, in my opinion that's weird for such a company.
The problem that I have now is with the Iphone 5 which is not supported for the current Itunes and I can not download the Itunes 10.7 version. What I supposed to do in this case because I can not syncronize at all.
Please give me a hand as soon as possible.
Many thanks

Mac OS X 10.5.8 is years old, 3 major versions out-of-date and unsupported at this point. You will never get any further updates for 10.5.8, and more and more applications will stop supporting 10.5.8 as time goes on. As mende1 points out, you can buy Snow Leopard (Mac OS X 10.6), which will let you use your new iPhone with your computer, but you need to make sure your computer's hardware is supported. See the system requirements for Snow Leopard:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP575
If your computer cannot run Snow Leopard, you will need to either buy a new computer or abandon any thoughts of syncing the iPhone with that computer.
Also, note that you'll get far better integration of your iPhone and your Mac if you're using Lion (Mac OS X 10.7) or Mountain Lion (Mac OS X 10.8), which are required to use iCloud. Of course, the requirements of those systems are even steeper than those of Snow Leopard:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4949
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5444

Why won't older mac software run on OSX?

I just got a copy of an old favorite Windows game. Civilization 2 for the Mac. However when I try to install it it says program will not run on this system.

1. You can use SheepShaver to run Mac OS 9 applications on an Intel Mac.
2. Most people who are switching to the Mac don't have any pre-Mac OS X software, or any need to run pre-Mac OS X software; this is probably why the authors of the book decided not to mention it.
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