Running only the Xfce4-Pannel

I like running a minimal environment, and typically do most of my work from command line.
(Hey I grew up with command line UNIX!)
For a long time I also ran the Gnome panel, and Nautilus (no desktop) without running a full gnome session. Just to do quick file moves and manipulation and application launching.
Things were great, simple and useful.
Now Gnome 3 has come alone and the gnome-panel is useless and nautilus has changed. YUCK!!!!!
So I started to shop around for a replacement panel, and settled on Xfce4-panel, with Thunar.
Launching Xfce4-panel on its own works, one time after a reboot, but after I logout and log back it it 'resets' all its configuration back to a single blank panel again!
Does anyone run just the Xfce4-panel on its own?
Can it be run without needing a "session manager"?
Any other suggestions?
I tried lxpanel but I can't get it to use larger icons in a side panel, and it looks plain silly with tiny launch buttons on the side of a huge screen. It is also not as configurable at Xfce4-panel.

The xfce4-panel information is saved, and if I reboot and run it it works. But if I then logout and log back it everything gets wiped!
I think I kill something I probably shouldn't when I logout, but I have no idea what.
I still like xfce4-panel better than lxpanel (better configuration of launchers and interfaces well with thunar) but it complaints about no SESSION_MANAGER and it's wiping of the panel configuration is becoming most annoying.

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