Running pre-PowerPC apps

Hi,
I have a PowerBook 540 c modified to a PowerPC 120MHz processor. I have a wonderful computer game (called Capitalist Pig) originally purchased for my 33 MHz PowerBook 120.
Unfortunately, the game won't run on my PowerBook 150. Is there any way I can run this game?
Thanks.
BTW- next up is a Newton software install and how i wish Cyberdog was still around. Fantastic interface.
Michael Vallance

The powerBook 120 was only released in Japan (when I was last here). In 1993 or 4. It was 33Mhz , black and white with no connection for an external monitor. Very basic but popular at that time. It was a toss up for the Apple PowerBook or a Compaq laptop with Win 3.1. Both very nice but i went for the 120 as it was lighter in weight. And there began my love affair with Apple
The later PowerBooks (150 c, etc.) released in japan became popular due to teh colour screen and J'nese friends were buying at extraordinary prices. My powerBook stayed with me til 1997 til a colleague wanted a laptop for simply typing his Masters thesis. I had pangs of regret ever since and a friend at a Mac Users Group event gave me his 540c which was gathering dust at home. It has been modified but I really wanted an original laptop again... and now I have dug out my old Hypercard stacks, my Newton , 3 Stylewriters, etc., I have this urge to set up a sort of mini studio in my office for students to experience early computing (and it's only 10 years ago or so!).
Hope this answers your query.
Michael
PowerBook 12 Mac OS X (10.4.2)

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(currpos < maxPosition) &&
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currpos++;
if(retTokens && (start == currpos) &&
(delimiters.indexOf(str.charAt(currpos)) >= 0))
currpos++;
count++;
return count;
</pre>
RunProg.properties like this:
Prog1=GetEnv 47838 837489 892374 839274
Prog0=GetEnv "djkfds dfkljsd" dsklfj

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