Running Snow Leopard on Mountain Lion host VM (and being able to develop apps)

I am a MacBook Pro owner and a game developer who wants to port his previous games for iOS.
My Mac came with Mountain Lion. The game engine that we used can't be compiled with Mountain Lion (it uses Allegro 4 library, which uses libraries deprecated by newer Mac OSX versions). I don't think it will take a short time for our game engine to be compatible with Allegro 5, so working in Snow Lion seems to be our solution in this case.
I have read that you can't install Snow Leopard to new Mac, replacing the main OS. But I know that it's possible to install it in virtual machine, hosted by Mountain Lion. My questions are,
* Can it be upgraded to the latest Snow Leopard? I have read that some guy tried it with his pirate copy of SL and he bricked his virtual machine. I won't suffer the same fate because I will have purchased SL, right?
* Will I be able to use XCode 3.2.6 AND submit my iOS game from virtual machine?
It would be great if I could use Snow Leopard without buying a new (actually, old) Mac. I already feel like being punished just because we aren't at the year when Snow Leopard was the current OS.
Thank you very much,
Ahmet "Gord10" Kamil Keles

Additional information and links.
Parallels
VirtualBox
VM Fusion
Snow Leopard server for use with the above. Call 1-800-692-7753 and order part number MC588Z/A. Cost is $19.99 + sales tax and shipping.

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Apple - OS X Mountain Lion - Read the technical specifications.
Macs that can be upgraded to OS X Mountain Lion
1. iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
2. MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
3. MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
4. MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
5. Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
6. Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
7. Xserve (Early 2009)
Are my applications compatible?
See App Compatibility Table - RoaringApps - App compatibility and feature support for OS X & iOS.
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For a complete How-To introduction from Apple see Apple - Upgrade your Mac to OS X Mountain Lion.
Model Eligibility for Snow Leopard and Lion.
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4. DVD drive for installation
5. Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.
6. Some features require Apple’s MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.
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What's involved? Buy and load OS X Server; that's now a Mac App Store app.
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hi tuggerose
i think it is bad new for you. if it's any consilation i went through the same thing when i loaded mountain lion when it first came out. i think the problem is that mountain lion is a pure 64bit operating system and the software you have is 32bit. earlier os's were able to emulate 32bit but the new system does not. the answer is new software. i did it and it cost me a load of money and much angst so your not alone.

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Start by checking if you can run Snow Leopard:
Requirements for OS X 10.6 'Snow Leopard'
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP575
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I fail to remember if the installer gave me an option to keep my applications.
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Appreciate the quick response.
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4479
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4759
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Migrating from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion Server

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Install Server.app
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Will I be able to upgrade Directly from Snow Leopard ro Mountain Lion

Hello All!
Will I be able to upgrade Directly from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion without going through Lion?
Thanks in advance

You have to upgrade Mac OS X Snow Leopard to Mac OS X Lion, Then Mac OS X Mountain Lion.
If You have Snow Leopard, then upgrading to Mac OS X Lion is only $29.99 via the Mac App's Store, a one time fee for all your Macs. I recommend that you download it to all your devices first before you actually run the installation process. Once you've upgraded to Mac OS X Lion, then upgrade to Mac OS X Mountain Lion for a one time fee of $19.99.
Mac OS X Mountain Lion will be available as a single software upgrade via the Mac App Store beginning in July 2012. The BEST PART is you only have to purchase it one time to upgrade all of your Macs. So its only like $50 bucks total for ALL your Macs to get both Lion and Mt Lion. Approximately, the same price it was when Snow Leopard's family pack came out for only up to 5 Macs. Except this time you get 2 upgrades for about the same cost for unlimited Macs compared to only 1 upgrade for up to 5 macs like before.
To watch an exciting video from the WWDC/June2012 regarding what Developers, APP's, Lion & Mountain Lion, iPhone4S, and IOS6 will brings to the table this season, click below.:
http://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2012/
I can't wait.
Good Luck,
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Upgrade from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion vs. date of computer

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Can somebody tell me if its save to update from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion if my computer(Macbook) was manufactured in October 2008. Apple recommends that you only do it if your Macbook is from ultimo 2008, but does that include the date before mentioned?
Secondly, what would happen if I go ahead with the installation and my computer isnt fit to run it?
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Mountain Lion can be installed on these MacBook: Late 2008 Aluminum or Early 2009 or newer. You'll need a minimum of 2GB of memory, and 4GB or more is recommended. The late 2008 MacBooks came out in mid-October 2008. You can look at those specs here to ensure your system is this model or key in your serial number here.
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