Running Vista on Mac Pro

I just put Vista on my Mac Pro using boot camp, runs great. BUT i have a few ?'s
Should I purchase a windows based anti-virus program? I will be using vista more than OS X
Should I download video drivers for windows? or any other drivers for that matter?

I would - in today's world with SQL-injection hitting everything from "mom and pop" to govt and university sites and everyone in-between, to look at how well Vista handles malware.
I feel much more secure with Firefox 3 with the NoScript extension and disabling javascript on most sites.
There are a few new (last week) security vulnerabilities in Safari for Windows still.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-programs-to-keep-your-computer-secure/

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Geforce 9800 GT Running On Early Mac Pro (EFI32)

I arrived at this point from another thread, which is here:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8988306#8988306
To make a long story short, I now have a 9800 GT running safely on my early Mac Pro.
It is a single GPU solution and it works reliably under both Mac OS X and Boot Camp Vista Ultimate 32 and is the fastest GPU (according to the Open GL benchmarks) I've ever seen on any Mac Pro. Absolutely no artifacts under either environment and the Crysis series is easily handled in Boot Camp. Still testing though...
Here is the specific GPU that's now installed:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187026
The dual fans make it insanely cool. It's also quiet and while perhaps a useless observation, its setup of copper heat sinks and connectors, etc., appears very practically done while also being a kind of attractive arrangement as well.
My 9800 GT is a reflashed PC board by bruinmacs:
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/bruinmacsW0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQmdoZ
As for installation to replace my also very fast 8800 GTS, I had to remove the side rail (two screws) and the daughter board (small lcd display) from the standard 9800 GT so it could fit in the lowest slot. The small lcd is not helpful for us Mac Pro owners.
I don't know for sure, but I believe this board by bruinmacs will run in any Mac Pro (it is PCIE 2).
FYI...
Cheers,
tyvol

Thanks for the reminder hatter...
I think that you are correct that the ROM's on these reflashed PC GPU's should be targeted to either the EFI32 or EFI64 Mac Pro version.
I forgot to mention that in addition to reflashing the 9800 GT with their ROM update for my EFI32 Mac Pro, bruinmacs also first increased the ROM to 128k.
Don't know for sure (bruinmacs would, though) but it seems to me that with the proper EFI32 or EFI64 ROM reflash, this 9800 GT could work in any current Mac Pro.
Cheers,
tyvol

Power Supply Temperatures Running Hot! Mac Pro shuts down.

Hello,
First I will give machine/hardware specs of interest:
2 x 3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (pre 2009)
8 GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 (running 2 displays)
Apple RAID Card/Controller
SMC Version: 1.25f4
*venting dimensions around computer: top=18", left side=3", right side=3" and back=18".
Software of interest currently running:
OS X 10.5.8
iStat Menu
SMC Fan Control
My machine has been shutting down spontaneously and I suspect either CPU or power supply overheating. In the 5 instances this has occurred, the room was very warm (AC was not on) and I was running HandBrake with CPU at full and an iStat reading of 145 F. Ambient was 77 F and I was not reading power supply temps at the time. I figured for sure this must be a CPU overheating issue. However, just a few hours ago I had another shutdown. The room was warm again but I was not running Handbrake, but StarCraft II. I have played a lot of Starcraft II with no problems until tonight.
I decided, this time, to check the temps on my power supplies. Power supply 1 = 147 F, and #2 is at 178 F. After many hours of searching forums I have concluded that these are crazy hot temps! I immediately installed SMC Fan Control to attempt to increase the fan speeds. I was successful in increasing all fans except the power supply (stuck at 599rpm). I have now turned the AC on in the house and the Ambient is down to 70, PS #1 145 and PS #2 169. All of these temps are a result of and idle machine running a browser.
The following may or may not be an issue, however, leave no stone unturned. I currently have 12 external devices running on USB. 4 WD passport drives, 1 DVD writer, 5 WD powered drives plus the keyboard and mouse. Also, the Mac Pro is plugged into a small UPS.
In all my forum searches, I just can't seem to answer some basic questions:
1. Can an overheated power supply shut the system down?
2. What are optimal (normal) running temps for Mac Pro's? (everyone seems to have opinions, but there doesn't appear to be a technical specification anywhere).
3. I thought the fans, especially CPU fans, were supposed to kick in when the heat rises. Why are mine staying at minimal rpm's?
Finally, does it look like I need new power supplies? Fans?
This machine was put into service in March of 2008 and has done very intensive rendering for the film industry...long nights...rendering for days sometimes. It has been retired for over a year now and is used at a lesser degree.
Thanks for reading this long post! I appreciate any input you can provide!
Other iStat reading of interest:
Power Supply 1 voltage = 12.28 V
Power Supply 1 current = 26.44 A
Power Supply 1 power = 316.75 W

Also, the Mac Pro is plugged into a small UPS.
Put your peripherals on that.
Don't share the same circuit for A/C as the Mac Pro, and put the Mac on 1300VA UPS at least.
As for all those external drives.... I'd consolidate into a good SATA case or two.
And yes in summer run with 3 of the fans up around 900 rpm.

I'm running a 13" MAC pro with version 10.8.2 But none of that will matter once you hear my news. Some days ago, I copied then pasted a long page item into my calendar. Now, all the claendar does is beep at me. I can't delete or cut the entry. In sho

I'm running a 13" MAC pro with version Lion v.10.8.2 But none of that will matter once you hear my news. Some days ago, I copied then pasted a long piece of type into into my calendar. Now, the things jammed up and all it does is beep at me. I can't delete or cut the entry. There much be someone out their smarter than I. Help!

Try restoring from your backup of a day or so prior to when you made the error.

Will firefox 5 run on a mac pro running snow leopard

I like FF but am concerned whether it will run on my mac pro running snow leopard, since the download information says it is a windows program.

Snow Leopard being Mac OSX 10.6
You need to download the version for Mac, not the .exe which is for Windows.
www.mozilla.com or if you prefer a certain language no given then look at http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html and look down the middle which is Mac OSX.

Boot Camp, Vista and Mac Pro X1900XT

Hey all,
I'm experceing what appears to be a common problem with the Mac Pro with X1900XT option and Boot Camp.
Vista installs file and everything is recognized except for the Radeo X1900XT card. When I boot up, I get what appears to be 16-colors displayed. When I tried to use my Boot Camp driver disk, everything installs fine except for the Radeon card.
I've also tried downloading and installing Windows Vista Catalyst drivers from ATI.com (version 7.3 as the release notes mentioned HDMI is supported by that version) and still the same problem and now my Vista crashes constantly before I log in.
Has anyone experienced? Suggestions or a workaround?
P.S - I also own a black macbook and the same copy of Vista worked flawlessly on it, even with Aero effects turned on.

The Mac Pro needs 4 FB-DIMMS minimum.
While this Mac Pro I own is the most capable, flexible and enjoyable machine I have ever owned, who says it will run circles around your friend's custom built? I suspect for many/most tasks you would be correct. Except for 3D simulation. PC video cards have higher performance clocks and drivers.
After using my MP 2.66 for 6 weeks as a PC and a Mac I have concluded:
This is a Mac, and should be used to run Mac OS (the real reason to buy a Mac). While it's great to be able to run XP and Vista on a Mac, for general purpose apps usage (geek nirvana), if high performance video cards are critical get a PC.
The Macs strength, is the dividends returned by it's tight integration as a platform. For example, I popped in a second video card and it just worked. No half dozen pop-ups telling me about new hardware and all that blather.
Once I get this sling off of my arm, I will be building a PC for heavy duty simulation.

Cannot Complete Installation of Vista with Mac Pro and Boot Camp

I only have one hard drive with my Mac Pro, and I partitioned the drive into two sections with boot camp and restarted with my Vista 64 bit Ultimate CD.
I have tried formatting the partition with Vista and it still gives me the dreaded error message of "windows is unable to find a system volume that meets its criteria". I've tried deleting the partition during installation, and making a new partition with Vista, reformatting, then restarting the computer. Same message.
I don't know what to do. I've tried like mad searching for topics like this one here, but every one of them deals with installing vista on a second dedicated hard drive on the Mac Pro. I only have one. How do I get this to work?
Please help if you can. I would REALLY appreciate it. I'll be watching the thread. Thank you!!

Loyalty4Life wrote:
Thank you for your reply! I'll be here all night.
I have the 3GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon processors. I tried installing Vista ultimate with my 32 bit software, but I still get the same message (I own both legally, btw).
Thanks for your help.
Several things to do:
Run OS-X Disk utility and repair the disk if necessary, and file permissions.
Be sure your HD has the GUID partition scheme and if it has SMART that it's OK
Zap the PRAM
Be sure you are logged in as administrator when creating the BC partition and starting the installation of Windows from Leopard
When I installed Vista Ultimate 64-bit, I was using BootCamp beta, 1.2 or 1.3. I created the partition with BootCamp Assistant.app as you did. It's a 60GB partition that I formatted with NTFS with BC.
After starting the install in Tiger, I then simply inserted the Vista 64-bit DVD and that was it.
It just installed.
Ditto with XP-Pro on my other MBP. Zero problems with BC. It was also done with a beta, BC1.0.
I have never installed Windows using Leopard. When I updated to Leopard from Tiger nothing changed, but there seem to be more problems with Leopard and BC2.0 than there were with Tiger and the beta versions.
There are no requirements about legality until after the OS is installed, so that's a moot point.
There are some install DVDs that are in ISO format and they won't work, but it seems that yours is working but not finding a suitable volume.
You might try reformatting the BC partition with BootCamp assistant as FAt32 and seeing if that works, but you are limited to 32GB if you do that, but it would be a good test. Vista should then format it into NTFS.
Be sure that your Leopard OS is fully backed up because stuff happens when you keep fooling around with partitions.
Also look through this forum for similar problems.

Will an HD 5870 run on a Mac Pro 1,1 under Windows?

Hey Guys,
Done a search for this but can't find any information. I'm looking into getting a little more life out of my Mac Pro (Quad 2.66, 13Gb RAM, HD 3870) by being able to use it for PC gaming, and was wondering whether any of the latest video cards (like the HD 5870) will still run on the machine under a Windows partition (probably Vista 64-bit, but maybe Windows 7 if I upgrade to that).
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers

The question is what do you do instead of use the 3870, as you don't have 3 aux connectors to work with (and one 16x slot, while you probably can get along fine with 4x or 8x for the 3870).
I would not even give Vista the time of day. But, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit is a 'must' to use more than 2GB RAM; to use both processors. Else, it really doesn't work as well, and Vista isn't worth the effort.
So once you solve the EFI64 boot issue that Windows and Apple now use for 64-bit, you'll be fine.
Then again, maybe its time to cut loses, some people would be happy to be able to run Tiger, and are willing to pay $1k for a system like yours.

Power Supply Fan Always Runs Full Throttle - Mac Pro (Early 2008)

My Mac Pro has been almost flawless since I purchased it new in February 2008. I did not purchase the AppleCare because I rather naively assumed at the time that my shiny new Mac Pro was an invincible machine. (I was seduced by Apple after all!) Well, that was when I was younger (about 2.5 years ago) and before I knew about the actual cost of things like Logic Boards and Apple Power Supplies... Now the $250 AppleCare lifeline seems like a bargain!
The Problem:
1 week after installing Windows 7 64-bit to a separate internal hard drive using boot camp 3.1, my Mac Pro was playing music from the local iTunes library in Snow Leopard when the power supply fan revved up to 2760 rpm! I immediately tried rebooting the machine, resetting the PRAM and SMC several times, but the fans continue to throttle up to almost 2800 rpm within seconds of powering on the Mac.
I have run the Apple Hardware Test several times and every time it generates the same error code within 1 loop of either the extended or regular test:
4SNS/1/40000001: lp0C-0.000
An Apple Support technician was kind enough to "sneak" me a little bit of information about the error code. He told me the message is Logic Board Sensor related and could be caused by a faulty Logic Board, Sensor Board (Ambient Board?), Power Supply or possibly a faulty sensor that might be repairable.
Emotion:
Other than my 6 month old daughter eyeing the Mac Pro with the same suspicion she reserves for the Dyson vacuum cleaner, the computer still works fine--it hasn’t crashed in either Windows 7 64-bit or Snow Leopard and I haven’t noticed any unusual behavior. I had one other problem with this computer about 1 year ago when I installed Vista using boot camp. About a week after the Vista install, the OEM ATI HD 2600 XT completely died and I replaced it with a GTX 285.
I have grown a little suspicious about the efficiency of boot camp in the Windows environment, but perhaps the 2 separate boot camp installs and subsequent hardware failures are coincidence or related to the hardware issue I am yet to resolve...?
Hopefully, someone in the Apple community will offer guidance to a swift and economical solution!
Thank you in advance for your time.
Some Data:
iStat Pro Info
CPU
User: 0%
Nice: 0%
Sys: 0%
Idle: 100%
TEMPs (in Fahrenheit) - There was no entry for Power Supply Temp in iStat!
HD1: 90
HD2: 90
HD3: 92
HD4: 92
CPUA: 88
CPUA: 86
CPUB: 88
CPUB: 86
Ambient: 76
Expansion Slots: 94
HD Bay1: 83
HD Bay2: 83
HD Bay3: 83
Hd Bay4: 81
Mem Bank A1: 106
Mem Bank A2: 99
Mem Bank A3: 99
Mem Bank B1: 92
Mem Bank B2: 92
Mem Bank B3: 94
Mem Module A1: 130
Mem Module A2: 126
Northbridge: 106
FAN SPEED (rpm)
Power Supply: 2760
Exhaust: 600
CPU Fan: 500
HD/Expansion: 800
Hardware Overview
Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05
SMC Version (system): 1.25f4

I had the same problem. The solution was replacing the Power Supply.
Because i had Apple Care there where no costs.

Fans running fast on mac pro

This quesiton has been brought up many times before, and I've tried the suggestions everyone has offered in resloving the problem of fans running fast on a Mac Pro. In my case they started running fast after Sleep, Restart or after Startup. I have a 2007 Mac Pro and have reset the PRAM and SMC in the past and these, along with updates from Apple, seem to have resovled the problem. Recently, however, I began to have this trouble again and went throught the motions of resetting PRAM and SMC. I even reinstalled my OS Lion to see if that would resolve the issue, but to no avail. So this is why I am writing. In an effort to give someone else a heads up to a new problem I incurred that hasn't been brought up in any discussions on the subject to this point; that I can find, anyway.
About 8 months ago I had one stick of Ram blow on me. I sent it back to OWC and it was replaced no problem. Then I noticed a month ago that all the RAM on my lower riser, except the replacement stick, had blown. Again, all were replaced and this is when the fan issue arose. I tested the RAM on the Upper Riser in the lower slot and they worked. I put the Ram from the Upper Riser on the Lower Riser Board to make sure it worked, and they did. I did this, however, after thinking I had blown the Lower Riser Board and ordered a replacement...glad I did. I now had 8 sticks of Ram in the Upper and Lower Riser all working well, but had a computer that sounded like a 744 just before take off. After numerous attemptst to fix the problem and searching long on the internet I decided to try the New Riser Board I had bought. It workded. That Lower Riser Board, for what ever reason, must be foul somewhere/somehow. I now longer have the problem.
So, I suggest you follow all the advice of those who have written before me because their suggestions worked initially. However, if you've had blown RAM recently, or maybe are about to and this is an indicator you have a Riser Board problem, you just may want to check your Riser's one at a time in both slots to see if the fans run fast while Board is in and the other is not.

I would - in today's world with SQL-injection hitting everything from "mom and pop" to govt and university sites and everyone in-between, to look at how well Vista handles malware.
I feel much more secure with Firefox 3 with the NoScript extension and disabling javascript on most sites.
There are a few new (last week) security vulnerabilities in Safari for Windows still.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-programs-to-keep-your-computer-secure/

Final CUt Studio 2 will not run on my Mac Pro & Macbook Pros simultaneously

I was under the impression that the licensing contract for FCPS2 allowed for the software to be installed and run on a desktop and a portable machine simultaneously. Am I wrong? I purchased Final Cut Studio 2 legally, and have installed it on my Mac Pro and my Macbook Pro, but if I try to open one of the FCS apps while one is running on the other computer, I get a protection error message and have to shut down the app. Does anyone know a workaround to this other than shutting off airport on one of the machines?

I was under the impression that the licensing contract for FCPS2 allowed for the software to be installed and run on a desktop and a portable machine simultaneously. Am I wrong?
Yes, you are wrong.
The license allows for the installation of a copy on each machine but they can not run simultaneously. The intention is to allow users to work with a laptp while away from the main editing machine. If you need the capability running two copies at the same time, buy another copy.
Good luck,
x

HT1338 Has anyone successfully installed Windows XP Mode and Windows Virtual PC software inside Windows 7 Pro inside Parallels 8 inside Mountain Lion running on a Mac Pro built in 2013?

I wanted to ask if anyone using a Mac Pro running Mountain Lion, Parallels 8, and Windows 7 Pro could run XP Mode?
My experience has not been encouraging in that I progress to the end of the final mile, that is configuring XP Mode for first use, then an error message appears saying I should try again, that is I should attempt to configure XP Mode again for the first time use. An endless loop, with no visibility into the nature of my configuration failure.
I understand my problem is a narrowly focused, microsoft-centric issue, however, I would imagine this XP behavioral Mode running inside Windows 7 Pro is a common goal for many users, so I thought this question was reasonable to ask our group.
Please advise, and thank you.

Hello FatMac,
I wanted to let you know that your "requires a patch" feedback looked--at first--like the piece of the puzzle I was missing. Turned out, however, when I downloaded the 64 bit version of the patch, then attempted to install it under Windows 7 Pro, my installation was first searched, then my patch installation returned a message saying this patch was not applicable to my system. (BTW:my Windows 7 install is 64 bit) This failure to install surprised me because, based on an earlier evaluation for hardware virturalization support, my MacPro does not have virturalization hardware support. I mean, based on this no hardware support feedback, and based on the nature of this patch, it looked as if the patch should install and set my problem right.
Nevertheless, the patch won't install, and I don't know a way to query or coerce it. I'm approaching the point of diminishing returns with this problem. I have two applications (Adobe Illustrator 10 and Framemaker 7.0) which will run, but they don't behave properly, under Windows 7. BTW: I did make somewhat extensive use of the Windows compatibility tool early on, but nevertheless, FrameMaker 7 simply quits at the worst possible moment, and Illustrator 10 graphics are very often blank black areas where pallettes should be.
Thanks again for your thoughts and help. I believed we were heading down the right track, but for reasons not visible to me, (the user), the patch that should fix this problem will not install...
If there is any saving grace to this situation, my problem is repeatable. I mean, it's not on-again/off-again. When I attempt to configure XP Mode for its first use, the progress bar turns red at the final second, then complains that it could not complete its setup. Please Try Again recouts its final advice. (Famous words marking the beginning of an endless loop:-)
Were it not for Illustrator and FrameMaker, I would not have taken us down this dark road.
So long for now, and hope to talk to you all again soon...

Can I run the new Mac pro (6.1) with only one stick of ram?

Will that cause any problems. And if not how much will the overall quality be affected. it won't be a permanent solution, but for a few weeks at least. So can it happen? Can I run the Mac pro 2013 with only one memory stick?

Per this
http://blog.macsales.com/22745-mix-and-match-more-memory-faster-mac-pro-2
the 2013 Mac Pro is the only MP that can use a single stick of memory.

How Will iMovie Run on New Mac Pro (late 2013)?

Is iMovie v10 ever likely to be upgraded to support the multiple-cores in the new Mac Pro (late 2013) the way Final Cut Pro X does? If not, will a fast iMac run iMovie about as well as the new Mac Pro (late 2013)?

No one here knows what Apples plans are for iMovie?
I think it's fair to say everything will run faster on the new MacPro but I don't think it's a reason by itself to upgrade hardware.
iMovie 10.0.9 runs just fine on my 2010 iMac.
Matt

Acarbat Freezed after installation and run it for Mac Pro!

Dear all,
I tried to install Acrobat 9 Pro to one station this morning (or install
Adobe Reader 9 couple days ago), but the system hanged after installation
and ran it. Clicking "force quit", it showed that "Acrobat (no response)".
Following are the general description about the workstation and it is
connected to Mac server.
Workstation which tried to install Acrobat 9 Pro:
- Mac Pro Processor: 2* 3GHz Dual-core Intel Xeon
- Memory: 4GHz
- Mac OS X 10.5.6
Server
- Mac Pro Processor: Dual 2 GHz Power PC G5
- Memory: 3GHz
- Mac OS X Server 10.5.6
- Service: AFP, FTP, Open Directory (control the use login for all
workstations)
Installation procedures:
- Login the workstation as an Administrator (local)
- Install Acrobat 9 PRO
- Registration
- Shut down the workstation after installation
- Restart the workstation
- Use my unique name to login (all my files are stored in Server)
Problem:
- Double-click "Acrobat 9 Pro" to run the software, it hangs
or
- Click one PDF file and use "Open with" to select "Acrobat 9 Pro", it
hangs again.
Does anyone have the same situation or have any idea to solve this
problem?
I really appreciate your kind help.
Best,
Ei-Wen

Home>Library>Preferences>com.apple.SoftwareUpdate.plist. Trash this file, repair permissions and restart your computer. Empty the trash when done.
P.S. If you shut down your computer, the window should have disappeared. Why didn't you use Force Quit?

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