Running With the Lid Down

Hi...
I would like to run maintenance applications at night and do screen sharing with my macbook pro - but I would like to have the lid down on my laptop while doing these various functions...
Is it possible? What would be my settings?
Comments, suggestions and opinions are welcome
Thank you in advance...

You can only run it with the lid down if you connect an external monitor, keyboard and mouse.
Then, put it to sleep and wake it up from the external keyboard.

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No, you're not dense. Lacking in appreciation of subtle humor, perhaps.
"Allow wake timers" was disabled. When I changed the setting to "Enabled" my backup ran. So I am .
That said, I have read in other OEM forums that running scheduled tasks with the lid down can be a problem. Something to with the interface between the lid (hardware) and the operating system. Apparently, I don't have that problem.

Mac book pro is very very slow/it hangs for even the smallest tasks/even with the lid closed it is still running if it is not completely turned off. Dose any one know what may be wrong ? and how to fix it?

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