RX 9800 Pro 128 mb AGP Display problem...

Got an odd problem with my recently purchased MSI Rx 9800 Pro. Once installed my computer boots properly, but i get small lines, odd looking graphics, or simply missing parts of characters, displayed on my screen.
I'v updated my bios on my MB, the rx9800 already has the lastest bios rev. The problem happens during post as well has within windows. But I did pull the latest drivers anyways from MSI, still displays funny.
I cleaned the leads on the AGP connection and made sure it was securely in place.
I thought it may be a power problem, I've got a 400 watt power supply with 3 cd/dvd roms and 2 Hard drives, so I disconnected the power to everything but my primary hard drive and the MSI vid card.
I also hooked up the DVI to VGA converter, incase there was a problem with the interface, but to no avail, it still does not function properly.
Just to make sure i wasnt being retarted I swtiched monitors as well, same problem.
I finally got frustrated and hooked my 3d prophet 32mb DDR Geforce card back up.
I've installed hundreds of video cards (ok, maybe not literally hundreds), but I can't fix this problem. I'm thinking there has to be something wrong with the hardware?
Would the experts out here agree? Any comments or addtional troubleshooting tips would be greatly appreciated.
PC Specs:
ASUS P4P800 Deluxe Motherboard
P4 2.6 no HT
512 mb DDR 3200 ram
Windows XP SP 1
2 Western Digital SATA 120 GB HD's

In that situation, I would try the card in another comparable PC to see if the problem is duplicated. If so, then I would think an RMA would be in order.
If I have a similar class of card available, that I know is in good working order, I will then try it in the PC with the problem to do a thourough session.
It's not always possible to do that as most of us don't own a store.
I have often put things on my credit card temporarily to troubleshoot and then return witin the alloted return window. It's not recommended unless you intend to return one and then keep the other.
Just some ideas.

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I don't wish to sound redundant here, but I've been reviewing the vendor's page:
It's OK- I don't mind beating this dead horse....
The maker says such to protect themselves from possible claims that may arise due to over loaded systems and power problems when their card is installed in said system.
Of course, 300w would be nice, but they didn't even specify the PSU rating a couple years ago. The Sawtooth, with it's 237w PSU, used to be listed as a compatible machine for the 9800...... They just didn't consider how far a Sawtooth might be modded.
Within reason, the early G4's (Sawtooths) are capable of using the Radeon 9800 Pro. The GE has the same 338w PSU as the DA (they are interchangeable), so there is plenty of power for the 9800.
One thing to remember, the requirements of the ADC port of the AGP slot are removed by using a non ADC card. This really changes the calculations of the power available.
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Which leaves your second, and very appropriate, point.
The main enemy of all, though, isn't power. Heat is the biggest concern.
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Adding additional cooling to remove the extra heat produced by the 9800, by using an exausting PCI fan, will also help the PSU provide adequate voltage to the system, by reducing the amount of hot air moving out of the PSU.
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buy page is here
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