S-Video & Cinema Display on MBP

I've posted this originally in the macBook Pro section but quickly realized that this is as much a FCP question as it is a macbook Pro question. Here's the link to the original post: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=350386
I hadn't really had a need for this before, but today realized that if I'm to properly do video editing, I need to watch my stuff on a TV first. The problem is that I currently have a 23" Cinema display, and love the amount of screen that it lets me use with FCP. But I know that apple said a DVI-S-video adapter is available, but I also wanna use my Cinema display. Is there a way that I could have both??
-Brian

A video feed of your computer display is not going to give you a proper view of your video. You should feed your firewire to a DA converter/deck/camera to get the true signal...
Patrick

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can i attach two 2004 Apple Cinema Displays (23" 20") to my 15" 2011 MBP? I see some community references to external devices (Matrox or EVGA). Is there no way to do it using just some combination of DVI / miniDV / USB cables adapters? Thanks!

Do your two displays have ADC (Apple Display Connector) ports, or DVI ports? If they have DVI, you can connect one to your MBP's Thunderbolt port with a mini-Displayport-to-DVI adapter and the other to a USB port with an adapter like this:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/VIDU2DVIA/
Note that the USB-connected display will be less responsive than the other.
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Thanks for your reply. I will explore your suggestions. I have a MacBook not a MacBook Pro. Does that affect your advice?
A 2007 MacBook also has mini-dvi so nothing is changed.
I have asked about the problem at the Apple store with a cinema display specialist.
Apple stores have "cinema display specialists"?
They don't know what the problem is and suggest I bring the MacBook in to be checked. They didn't identify any compatibility problem.
Which is why I question the words "cinema display specialists"!
We know that the display works fine because we are able to operate it with a MacBook Pro (2011). But any further suggestions welcome.
Those machines have mini-diplayport (or is it thunderbolt by 2011? -- doesn't matter). So no adapters necessary and you know your display works. But the video out ports are "apples and oranges" here (mini-displayport vs. mini-dvi). The object your "game" is how to connect (female) mini-dvi to to a (male) mini-displayport display (don't even think about the thunderbolt display).
I've given you all the ideas I could think of, except when it comes to finding adapters or converters of various "flavors", it's google, google, google.

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I was very interested to read this document. I think there is a problem with the Cinema Display and that it is frying the computer.
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I am having the same problem on my MacPro after upgrading to Lion. I had this problem with Leopard originally, and the solution involved resetting the SMC and resetting PRAM. However, those tricks did not work with Lion. Once the display goes to sleep, it will not wake up. The computer itself is fine (configured to never sleep). I can ssh into for example. I note that an attempt to reboot with "sudo shutdown -r now" fails to reboot successfully however and I end up having to powercycle in order to recover my displays. For now, I'm just going to set my "Display sleep" Energy Saver preference to Never to avoid the issue.
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I've tried using the latest version of SwitchResX set to 1680x1050. It says it is configured to 1680x1050 but the display does not respond.
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To clarify. The MacBook Pro displays 1280x800 and the Apple Cinema Display mirrors it at 1280x800. I cannot get the ACD to display at it's max capable resolution of 1680x1050.
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I also have two Apple Cinema Displays. One is 22", ADC. The other is 23", also ADC. I have ADC->DVI adaptors for both.
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* As noted above, I tried the 22" display with the newer laptop. Works fine.
* As noted above, I tried the 23" display with the older laptop. Works fine.
* Tried plugging the display into the laptop while the laptop was off, then turning it on.
* Tried plugging the display into the laptop while laptop was asleep, then waking it.
* Tried plugging the display into the laptop while laptop was awake.
* Tried pushing the display power button while it was plugged into the laptop.
* Tried the 'detect displays' button in the System Preferences.
* Tried zapping the PRAM
* Tried resetting the power management unit.
* Tried unplugging/replugging display power while connected to the laptop.
* Tried swapping the two power (ADC->DVI) adaptors.
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Rick Llewellyn

Have you had a look under audio/video settings ? I had a similar issue and that is where the problem lay.. in the playback tab
http://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=112% 26section=1%26tasks=true
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Hi. I have a 2010 13" Macbook Pro bought about a year and a half ago (my first Mac and despite the problems described below, I'm a very happy camper), with RAM upgraded to 8 GB but otherwise it's pretty much a standard issue machine, certainly still a good computer. Last summer I bought the 27" Cinema Display to go with it and I just love it. From time to time, though, I'm a bit concerned about the performance of my computer with the display. I usually use a lot of apps at a time (hence the maxed out memory) and with the display, more often than not, the computer runs a bit on the slow side, the animations are not the smoothest, the "beach ball" is oft-present, or, very prominently, there's no way flash video (such as on YouTube) plays smoothly in full screen, making it unwatchable (I often "cheat" by using the universal access zoom to magnify the video, which does the job pretty well). The fan inside the laptop usually spins audibly at the maximum RPM and the CPU temperature is usually around 70°C (rarely less, but rarely much more). None of these problems happen when I'm using it without the display, on the road. I have already given up on keeping the see-thru Zagg plastic case when at home and not traveling, to keep the computer cooler in the clamshell mode and I'd be willing to buy an external cooling system (the Moshi Zefyr 2 cooler looks really worthy) but do you think the performance degradation could be heat-related at all? I know my MBP is really the entry-level model and still has the ancient C2D CPU, only 256 MB of video memory and I shouldn't expect miracles. But I just wanted to make sure I'm doing everything right and my computer is really "supposed" to perform worse with such a large display. Thank you very much for any kind of help or advice.

Thanks a lot for your reply. Isn't it weird, though, that Apple would make the display compatible with all of their notebooks without any warning about the possible performance penalty with some of the lower end models? Why aren't they offering smaller external displays? And the MBP 7,1 is no slouch too, when this particular Cinema Display originally shipped, it was the most powerful Apple laptop after the 15" and 17" MBPs.
Oh well, it still works OK though, and I'm going to stick with this setup for at least another year or so, certianly till after the rumored MBP redesign takes place and I hope the graphics on the future machines will be powerful enough to drive large displays smoothly. It's a good thing the Cinema Display is future-proof and forward compatible with the Tunderbolt port. All in all, it's a beautiful display and will remain so for a long time.
Do you think an external cooler (such as the mensioned Zefyr 2) would help in the meantime?

Mid-2012 MBP with 27" Cinema Display SCREEN GOES BLACK WHEN USING USB PERIPHERALS IN DOCK

I haven't been able to find any straightforward answer as to why this is happening and it's becoming one of the most infuriating things in my life, impeding my workflow and costing me unmeasurable time in waiting, rebooting, screwing with cables, etc.
I use my MBP as a DAW for multitracking live audio events to ProTools through a digital console where I work. Here's my gear list that I use every day:
Mid-2012 MBP - Yosemite, 8GB, i7 quad 2.5, mechanical hd
HengeDocks dock for my exact model machine - has set-screw jacks for CinemaDisplay power, Tbolt, FW800, USB, USB, SDcard, headphones, etc
USB wired keyboard
Anker 1x4 USB3.0 hub - I have a TimeMachine 1TB drive, 3TB project backup drive, audio interface and MIDI I/O or PT iLok, depending what I'm working on
Magic Mouse (BlueTooth)
Here's what's happening:
SCENARIO 1 - I insert the CinemaDisplay (cD) power connector and TBolt plugs into the dock, tighten the set screws, close the lid of my MBP (already logged into Yosemite & linked with MagicMouse [mM]) and stick the MBP into the dock... everything comes up on the cD and I can go about my day. At this point, I can plug the USB hub into the back of the cD and the system sees the hub & all peripherals listed just fine.
SCENARIO 2 - Install cD powercon, TBolt connector, USB3 hub, USB keyboard into the dock, close the lid on MBP (again, logged in), insert into dock... cD comes up, looks great for about 15 seconds then goes completely blank. No response from key presses, mouse clicks, threats with a hammer, etc. Then, of course, I have to yank the MBP out of the dock, which hard-disconnects the external drives (backup and TimeMachine... good for them, right?) and causes the MBP to flake, thinking it's still in the dock, then not, then logging me out & requiring a password (not a big deal- I deal with copyrighted stuff, so passwords aren't the issue).
***EVEN IF I DO NOT PLUG THE USB3 HUB INTO THE HENGE DOCK, THE cD STILL GOES BLANK AFTER 15 SEC... IT ONLY SEEMS TO LIKE THE TBOLT AND POWER... NO OTHER PERIPHERALS (fw800, USB, etc)***
It seems like the MBP freaks out when the lid is closed and there are USB/FW peripherals plugged in while using a secondary TBolt display as the main output... seems stupid... if I need a closed-lid dock, the MBP shouldn't care what I have plugged in while the lid is closed. I had the same issues with Mountain Lion & Mavericks and now it's being repeated with Yosemite.
My goal in this exercise is simply to free up the USB jacks on the back of the cD for two reasons - #1) from time to time, I have extra things to plug in and I don't want some massive USB 1x8 hub on my desk... looks stupid; #2) the bottleneck created by plugging in the hub to the back of the cD (another hub via TBolt) almost triples the time required to back up/copy files. I move files from system drive to backup drive & back VERY often due to the nature of my job... speeding up this process would greatly improve my efficiency in the matter. Why would Henge create a dock with all the jacks on it to allow someone to plug into a cD that won't frickin work with said cD? Every other dock I've found makes the user stick the MBP on a slanted, goofy-looking stand and have the lid open or something dumb like that... what I have is the setup I need... just need the USB stuff to work while lid is closed and everything from powercon & cD to USB3 hubs will work without making the cD freak out.
Any ideas out there?

Have now taken the 27" display into the repair shop and after 24 hrs got the phone call - "appears to be nothing wrong with it, will check again on Tuesday and let you know".
I can't seem to find anything on the net describing a similar problem. Everything is working fine right now with the Mac Pro connected to the older 20 inch Cinema Display. In fact, everything seems to be working about a second faster.
I was told by the local retailer that Apple no longer makes the 27 inch LED Cinema Display product and the new display, the "Thunderbolt" will not work with my 13 month old Mac Pro.
***??? In 20 years of owning Mac equipment, this is my first major "uh-oh".

S-Video & Cinema Display on MBP

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