S60 2nd Edition & S60 3rd Edition, why so differe...

from what I've read, non of the symbian apps produced for S60 2nd addition work on newer handsets running S60 3rd Edition? is this correct? i thought the idea of this platform was it was standard O/S much like windows is on a PC. but now i read that if i get a n80, that non of the apps I've purchased will run on the newer S60 handsets?
Nexu 5

too bad isnt it ??? even i couldnt understand !! when theres no backward compatibility , whts the guarantee tht the next version of symbian will support the applications which r developed for this version ??? and if ive to spend money to buy applications every time i get a newer version of software , it sounds more like a con to me , rathar thn any improvement . on the other hand , this version enables to upgrade the firmware over the air (ota) , thts wht i heard , which i find is very very useful . but i still feel tht its more r less a con by mobile phone manufacturers and application development companies unless thy let u upgrade the applications with the compatible version free of charge r with a minimal charge...

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Difference between S60 and S60 3rd Edition

Hello.
This is not so much bout updating the phone's software but more about the phone's Operating system itself so hope this is in the right place.
I have an N91 that comes with Symbian S60 3rd Edition. I wanted to install a screen reader so that I can use all the features of this phone (as I'm partially sighted) but it just would not install. Not sure whether this had something to do with unsigned applications, but that's another issue.
I looked on the website and i think it did mention something about the application only being compatible with Synbian S60 phones and not S60 erd Edition. So my question is, how different are the two versions of the operating system? I'm more of a PC guy myself, so in PC terms would it be, say, the difference between Windows XP and 2000, built on the same basic foundation but with some differences, or say, the difference between Windows XP and 98, two totally different systems?
Also, how difficult would it be to migrate program code from an S60 platform to the 3rd Edition platform, and therefore how long roughly would you say it would be before the application could be released?
Finally, is there such a thing as an S60 emulator, so maybe I could run the screen reader in S60 mode until an S60 3rd edition version comes out? The emulator question would also hold for he fact that I want to be able to run some applications I used to run on my Nokia 6630 (Symbian S60) on my N91.
Thanks in advance for your help, and sorry for the long post and many questions. I guess I'm just so excited at finally having this new phone i want to make the most of it lol.
Hussein.
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Hi and thanks for your reply. sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I am just doing this more for a hobby than as a 'proper' project, as I doubt I'd actually get anywhere- and if I did it'd probably be a fluke. I'm going to download all the SDK's so I can at least get the actual code of the program, as at the moment it's just in its .sis form. then maybe I can at least see where the changes are, and any transformation into an S60 3rd Edition (or is it S9.1?) is just good luck I guess.
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SIS Files on S60 3rd edition?

Hi,
Has anyone managed to successfully install a Flash Lite
application via SIS file on a series60 3rd edition device?
My SIS file works fine on 2nd edition devices, but when i
change the product UID range to 3rd ed. if just comes up straight
away with the 'not supported' installation error.
Is there a new version of makesis that i must use?
Any ideas?
Paul

For anyone having the same problems as me...
If you are trying to create a sis file for 3rd edition or
UIQ3
download the s60 3rd edition CDK from Forum Nokia (this will
give you the newer version of makesis, and some other stuff i
havent checked out yet,).
Download the 'Symbian Developer Certificate Request' app from
Symbian signed as well as
some new UID's
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s60 1st Edition (0x101F6F88), 0, 0, 0, {"Series60ProductID"}
s60 1st Edition, FP1 (0x101F8202), 0, 0, 0,
{"Series60ProductID"}
s60 2nd Edition (0x101F7960), 0, 0, 0, {"Series60ProductID"}
s60 2nd Edition, FP1 (0x101F9115), 0, 0, 0,
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s60 2nd Edition, FP2 (0x10200BAB), 0, 0, 0,
{"Series60ProductID"}
s60 2nd Edition, FP3 (0x102032BD), 0, 0, 0,
{"Series60ProductID"}
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S60 3rd Edition [0x101F7961], 0, 0, 0, {"S60ProductID"}
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UIQ v2.0 ( 0x101F617B ),2,0,0,{ " UIQ20ProductID " }
UIQ v2.1 (0x101F61CE), 2, 1, 0, {"UIQ21ProductID"}
UIQ v3 (0x101F6300),3,0,0,{"UIQ30ProductID"}
Note: you cant mix the old and the new product id's in one
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compatable, you will need one for the older nokia devices, one for
the new 3rd edition, and another if you develop UIQ (although there
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possible you'd have to have a separate one for that as well!).
If only Symbian could have written a simple document with all
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Itunes for s60 3rd edition.

does any one have itunes music player for s60 3rd edition?????
At last a nseries phone im truely happy with THE N82

20-Dec-2006
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petrib wrote:
And for protected iTunes files, you should be able to make a CD and rip it to your PC in a format like MP3 or AAC that the phone supports.
You can do that?!
I thought iTunes locked everything up so tight that wasn't possible .. It's one of the reasons I've never understood why anyone would want to use iTunes - that and the fact they rip off us poor Europeans: we pay like 50% more per track than they do in the US (99 cents is around 50p at current exchange rates).
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Problem with S60 2nd Edition FP2 and mobility pack

When i run the sample game from mobility pack with the S60 2nd Edition FP2 the bottom part of the phone display seems to freeze and wont refresh. I have that problem with the emulator and with a real phone (6630). Does anyone experienced the same problem? I tried with other platform SDK and it runs ok. There's a screenshot of what happens.....
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9373/s602ndfp2le5.png

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Fscommand2 "shuts down" flash lite player 2.1 in S60 3rd Edition

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I am having the following problem in nokia phones S60 3rd
edition:
when I have a j2me midlet running in the background and open
a swf that executes: fscommand2("GetSignalLevel") it automatically
closes the flash lite player. This has happened in phones that come
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Ciao Pieter,
in few days Adobe will release for free the FL 2.1 player to
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S60 3rd edition apps

Hi anyone knows if there is an available application where you can lock text messages so they cannot be viewed by others? Previous s60 had an app called sms guard is this available for the 3rd edition? Also what about a photo lock like handy photosafe? I dont particularly like crypto is handy photosafe available for 3rd edition? Where can i get there 2 apps from?

Search on the net, i beleive that there are several programs like that out there. There even is such a program available from Nokia own "katalogs" program that are included in the N80!

N85 s60 3rd edition fp2

I sent my phone to service have changed 3g camera they upgraded n85 to 31.002 now l can not use call config which works with s60 3rd edition fp2 so how can l dowload or change int o previous version ? is it possible?? Thanks for your helps

It is impossible. you can't roll back any update.
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S60 3rd edition fp2 launch

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Metronome applications for S60 3rd Edition

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Nokia CarContcats for Ford and S60 3rd Edition

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Smart profile s60 3rd edition. anyone got it worki...

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Nexu 5

hello,
for testing porposes or for final distributions, you don't
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Nokia 6680 S60 3rd Edition

Hi,
I currently own a Nokia 6680. Is there any way in which i could upgrade the firmware from S60 to the S60 3rd Edition?
Thanks in advance!
Best Regards,
Andre.

Hi andregrimaud
Unfortunately this is not feasible.
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GNUBOX on s60 3rd edition?

With gnubox, it is possible to access the PC's internet connection via phone's bluetooth !!
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According to this it isn't possible yet purely because Symbian 9 v3 is a completely different to any of the lower versions.
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