S60 5th edition/ Nokia 5800 & N97

With the Nokia 5800 being the first Nokia to have the s60 5th edition OS, and N97 soon to follow, who thinks that the 5800 is being used as a end-user testing device for the upcoming N97.
dont get me wrong, i its not a bad idea, but i just wonder if 5800 owners will get some of the features which has been shown on the N97 such as live widgets on the home screen for example which looks absolutely brilliant.
what do you guys out there think?
Message Edited by dan2007h on 21-Dec-2008 05:12 AM

What the hell are you talking about??? N97 and 5800 are different??? N97 for rich-mans??? Hahahahha Just see this comparison, and you will notice, that N97 and 5800 is almost totally the same device:
http://s60blog.com/2008/12/nokia-n97-vs-nokia-5800-xpressmusic/
N97 just more with the keyboard, and hopefully 5800 will get the widget-homescreen too, as both of them has the same operation system (s60v5), resolution and touchscreen...
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What the hell are you talking about??? N97 and 5800 are different??? N97 for rich-mans??? Hahahahha Just see this comparison, and you will notice, that N97 and 5800 is almost totally the same device:
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What the hell are you talking about??? N97 and 5800 are different??? N97 for rich-mans??? Hahahahha Just see this comparison, and you will notice, that N97 and 5800 is almost totally the same device:
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