Safari and Camino!

Both Safari and Camino 'hang' when loading a new page or link and also when first opening either.It takes at least 30 seconds to open and usually I have to stop loading and start again. I have done all the things suggested for other people but with no improvement. I installed Camino because of problems with Safari and now am wondering if IE would be better?
I have had my G5 since June and have very little on the HD. Advice would be appreciated please but in language suited to an old lady!Thanks.

Hi Brenda
Many people are reporting problems with the Airport wireless card inside, and it often seems to drop the connection periodically.
Check the number of dark blue bars in Internet Connect in the Applications folder (or black vs grey curved lines on the menu bar if you've checked the box "Show Airport status in bar" in Internet Connect). If there are none, then it could be such a problem. Often turning the Airport Card on and off, fixes it, and it usually solves itself.
If you have good signal strength, then the problem will be with your Internet Service Provider.
In fact, far from there being a new version of IE, from 31st January 2006 it is no longer available for download at all, From the MS Mac site
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/
Quote:
"INTERNET EXPLORER FOR MAC NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD
In June 2003, the Microsoft Macintosh Business Unit announced that Internet Explorer for Mac would undergo no further development, and support would cease in 2005. In accordance with published support lifecycle policies, Microsoft ended support for Internet Explorer for Mac on December 31st, 2005, and is not providing any further security or performance updates.
Accordingly, as of January 31st, 2006, Internet Explorer for the Mac is no longer available for download from Microsoft. It is recommended that Macintosh users migrate to more recent web browsing technologies such as Apple's Safari."
However the last version released 5.2.3 works quite I believe. I use 5.2.2 okay on the odd occasion when a site doesn't like Safari.
I am having hanging times myself since upgrading to 10.4.5, but that was today, and it might just be my connection tonight...

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Date/Time: 2006-10-15 11:35:40.147 -0400
OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L2127)
Report Version: 4
Command: Safari
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Parent: WindowServer [58]
Version: 2.0.4 (419.3)
Build Version: 2
Project Name: WebBrowser
Source Version: 4190300
PID: 410
Thread: 8
Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERNPROTECTIONFAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000
Thread 0:
0 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x156d8bc2 0x155c3000 + 1137602
1 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x156f2737 0x155c3000 + 1242935
2 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x157e68b9 0x155c3000 + 2242745
3 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x157f8f73 0x155c3000 + 2318195
4 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x15958ea1 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 44341
5 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x159486b7 Flash_EnforceLocalSecurity + 1043
6 com.apple.WebKit 0x94cca738 -[WebBaseNetscapePluginView sendEvent:] + 303
7 com.apple.WebKit 0x94ccc7d6 -[WebBaseNetscapePluginView sendNullEvent] + 154
8 com.apple.Foundation 0x9263c36a __NSFireTimer + 199
9 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90828bc9 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3341
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90827eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
11 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcdb90 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 285
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcd297 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 385
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dcd0ee BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 81
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x9324f465 _DPSNextEvent + 572
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x9324f056 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 137
16 com.apple.Safari 0x00006f96 0x1000 + 24470
17 com.apple.AppKit 0x93248ddb -[NSApplication run] + 512
18 com.apple.AppKit 0x9323cd2f NSApplicationMain + 573
19 com.apple.Safari 0x0005f7de 0x1000 + 387038
20 com.apple.Safari 0x0005f6f9 0x1000 + 386809
Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 machmsgtrap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082869a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90827eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9262adc6 -[NSRunLoop runMode:beforeDate:] + 182
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x9262acc2 -[NSRunLoop run] + 75
5 com.apple.WebKit 0x94c9f451 +[WebFileDatabase _syncLoop:] + 198
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x925f536c forkThreadForFunction + 123
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 machmsgtrap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082869a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90827eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9262aa9b +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 259
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x925f536c forkThreadForFunction + 123
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 machmsgtrap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082869a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90827eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x92651c4e +[NSURLCache _diskCacheSyncLoop:] + 206
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x925f536c forkThreadForFunction + 123
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 4:
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 5:
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1 com.apple.Foundation 0x9264b2f8 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:] + 39
2 com.apple.Syndication 0x996c1052 -[AsyncDB _run:] + 181
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x925f536c forkThreadForFunction + 123
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 machmsgtrap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082869a CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90827eb5 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145b8da HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 158
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145b6f5 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 7:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009857 machmsgtrap + 7
1 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x1599d9b1 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 325701
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 8 Crashed:
0 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x1596e267 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 131323
1 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x1596bb8b nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 121375
2 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x1596b258 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 119020
3 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x15963eb2 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 89414
4 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x159625a3 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 82999
5 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x15961932 nativeShockwaveFlashTCallFrame + 79814
6 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x156a0def 0x155c3000 + 908783
7 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x1573b338 0x155c3000 + 1540920
8 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x1573d3dc 0x155c3000 + 1549276
9 ...romedia.Flash Player.plugin 0x15935c6a 0x155c3000 + 3615850
10 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x70009479 DefaultOutputAUEntry + 31577
11 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x700dee3f 0x70000000 + 912959
12 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x700de27b 0x70000000 + 909947
13 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2b989 AudioConverterChain::CallInputProc(unsigned long) + 189
14 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2b626 AudioConverterChain::FillBufferFromInputProc(unsigned long*, unsigned long*, CABufferList*) + 84
15 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ae7e BufferedAudioConverter::GetInputBytes(unsigned long, unsigned long&, CABufferList const*&) + 234
16 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ad0f CBRConverter::RenderOutput(CABufferList*, unsigned long, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 119
17 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2aa73 BufferedAudioConverter::FillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 211
18 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ae32 BufferedAudioConverter::GetInputBytes(unsigned long, unsigned long&, CABufferList const*&) + 158
19 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ad0f CBRConverter::RenderOutput(CABufferList*, unsigned long, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 119
20 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2aa73 BufferedAudioConverter::FillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 211
21 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ac01 AudioConverterChain::RenderOutput(CABufferList*, unsigned long, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 93
22 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2aa73 BufferedAudioConverter::FillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 211
23 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2a900 AudioConverterFillComplexBuffer + 190
24 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x70009075 DefaultOutputAUEntry + 30549
25 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x70008c44 DefaultOutputAUEntry + 29476
26 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x7001010c AUHighShelfFilterEntry + 5266
27 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x700094dd DefaultOutputAUEntry + 31677
28 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x700dee3f 0x70000000 + 912959
29 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x700de27b 0x70000000 + 909947
30 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2b989 AudioConverterChain::CallInputProc(unsigned long) + 189
31 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2b626 AudioConverterChain::FillBufferFromInputProc(unsigned long*, unsigned long*, CABufferList*) + 84
32 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ae7e BufferedAudioConverter::GetInputBytes(unsigned long, unsigned long&, CABufferList const*&) + 234
33 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ad0f CBRConverter::RenderOutput(CABufferList*, unsigned long, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 119
34 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2aa73 BufferedAudioConverter::FillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 211
35 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2ac01 AudioConverterChain::RenderOutput(CABufferList*, unsigned long, unsigned long&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 93
36 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2aa73 BufferedAudioConverter::FillBuffer(unsigned long&, AudioBufferList&, AudioStreamPacketDescription*) + 211
37 ....audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 0x93d2a900 AudioConverterFillComplexBuffer + 190
38 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x70009075 DefaultOutputAUEntry + 30549
39 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x70008c44 DefaultOutputAUEntry + 29476
40 ...pple.audio.units.Components 0x700080e9 DefaultOutputAUEntry + 26569
41 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91469b8e HP_IOProc::Call(AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioBufferList const*, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioBufferList*) + 240
42 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914691b6 IOA_Device::CallIOProcs(AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&, AudioTimeStamp const&) + 274
43 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91468f41 HP_IOThread::PerformIO(AudioTimeStamp const&) + 1221
44 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x91467493 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 931
45 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x914670e9 HPIOThread::ThreadEntry(HPIOThread*) + 17
46 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9145b6f5 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 93
47 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90023d87 pthreadbody + 84
Thread 8 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x1596e222 ecx: 0x15b15ee0 edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0x169cc414 esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xb03b2a58 esp: 0xb03b2a20
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x1596e267 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037
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0x92c78000 - 0x92c7bfff com.apple.help 1.0.3 (32.1) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framewor k/Versions/A/Help
0x92c7e000 - 0x92c9bfff com.apple.openscripting 1.2.5 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting .framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting
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0x92cb7000 - 0x92d1afff com.apple.htmlrendering 66.1 (1.1.3) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HTMLRendering .framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering
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0x92da6000 - 0x92db3fff com.apple.audio.SoundManager 3.9.1 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.f ramework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
0x92dba000 - 0x92dbffff com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.3 (73) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels. framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
0x92dc4000 - 0x930b6fff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.4.8 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.fra mework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x931bb000 - 0x931c6fff com.apple.opengl 1.4.12 /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/OpenGL
0x931cb000 - 0x931e6fff com.apple.DirectoryService.Framework 3.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/DirectoryService.framework/Versions/A/DirectoryServi ce
0x93236000 - 0x93236fff com.apple.Cocoa 6.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Cocoa.framework/Versions/A/Cocoa
0x93238000 - 0x938eefff com.apple.AppKit 6.4.8 (824.42) /System/Library/Frameworks/AppKit.framework/Versions/C/AppKit
0x93c6f000 - 0x93ce9fff com.apple.CoreData 90 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData
0x93d22000 - 0x93de3fff com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 1.4.3 /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
0x93e23000 - 0x93e23fff com.apple.audio.units.AudioUnit 1.4.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioUnit.framework/Versions/A/AudioUnit
0x93e25000 - 0x93ff7fff com.apple.QuartzCore 1.4.9 /System/Library/Frameworks/QuartzCore.framework/Versions/A/QuartzCore
0x94048000 - 0x94089fff libsqlite3.0.dylib /usr/lib/libsqlite3.0.dylib
0x94091000 - 0x940cbfff libGLImage.dylib /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/libGLImage.dyl ib
0x94159000 - 0x94197fff com.apple.vmutils 4.0.2 (93.1) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/vmutils.framework/Versions/A/vmutils
0x941db000 - 0x941ebfff com.apple.securityfoundation 2.2.1 (28150) /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityFoundation.framework/Versions/A/SecurityFoun dation
0x941f8000 - 0x94235fff com.apple.securityinterface 2.2.1 (27695) /System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityInterface.framework/Versions/A/SecurityInter face
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0x94c9d000 - 0x94d30fff com.apple.WebKit 418.9 /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/WebKit
0x94d8a000 - 0x94e0cfff com.apple.JavaScriptCore 418.3 /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/JavaScriptCor e.framework/Versions/A/JavaScriptCore
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0x96e24000 - 0x96e38fff com.apple.audio.CoreAudioKit 1.0.1 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudioKit.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudioKit
0x996be000 - 0x996f5fff com.apple.Syndication 1.0.6 (54) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Syndication.framework/Versions/A/Syndication
0x99711000 - 0x99723fff com.apple.SyndicationUI 1.0.6 (54) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/SyndicationUI.framework/Versions/A/Syndicatio nUI
Model: MacBook1,1, BootROM MB11.005F.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core Duo, 2 GHz, 512 MB
Graphics: Intel GMA 950, GMA 950, Built-In, spdisplaysintegratedvram
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 256 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, 667 MHz
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MacBook Mac OS X (10.4.8) 512M RAM; 80G HD; 2.0 GHZ processor

Hi again Wildcat,
Well, I decided to go to the main page (www.xgenstudios.com). It tuns out that the front page doesn't show up at all, even when all of the boxes checked off. (I checked on Camino and the front page showed up). The ads show up, but nothing else.
This is seems Normal, all items that make up the web page in Safari are deselected.
•Macromedia seems to be the problem not Java nor Javascript.
With only the Plugins Disabled in the Security tab in Safari preferences leaving the Java checked, go to the page, does it crash Safari.?
• For comparison the web page does not crash either of my Safari versions 1.3.2 or 2.0.4 on the two ppc or the intel http://www.xgenstudios.com/play/motherload/
BTW - If I uncheck the Java Script box, the page doesn't show up.
That is also normal it is coded using javascript language ( & java) it has 20 odd errors, nothing to write home about, not a problem, same will happen to many website including this one. Motherload Validation report if the box are all deselected
Macromedia seems to be the problem not Java nor Javascript.
With only the Plugins Disabled leaving the Java checked, go to the page, does it crash Safari.?
~•~
You say,
9,0,20,0 (I even deleted it and reinstalled it...still crashes).
I see that your crash tells this is the version you are running.
com.macromedia.Flash Player.plugin 9.0.0 (1.0.4f20)
• You need to to USE the uninstaller, is that what you did?
• Was that before or after you FIRST posted or after.
• Did you follow these exact steps from, a must to follow them exactly.
Steps for troubleshooting quoted from MacromediaFlash Player Tech Note
"If you have trouble with installation of Flash Player 9 for Intel-based Macs, then follow these troubleshooting steps. If one step does not correct the problem, then move onto the next step. For optimal troubleshooting, after each step, restart your machine, and Test Adobe Flash Player before moving onto the next step.
1) Verify the installed version of Flash Player
• If the installed version is 9.0.20.0, then you have the Flash Player 9 final release installed.
• If the installed version is 8.0.17.0, or 8.0.27.0, then you have the Flash Player 8 preview release installed. Download and install the final release version of Flash Player 9 available here.
• If the installed version is 8.0.22.0, or 8.0.24.0, and you are not running Safari in Rosetta mode, then you have the PowerPC version of Flash Player 8 installed. You can only run this version in Rosetta mode. You can follow the steps below to run Flash Player 8 in Rosetta, or download and install the final release version of Flash Player 9 available here.
2) Reinstall
Many issues are related to a problem with a previous installation of Flash Player or to browser configuration.
To reinstall Flash Player, first run the Flash Player Uninstaller. Then download and run the Flash Player 9 installer available here..............more here where this is quoted from. Flash Player TechNote
• Before Uninstalling & reinstalling the Flash Player.
• Try disconnecting All Third party peripherals from your computer USB items Printers, mp3 players & mouse and keyboard only try Safari
Connecting them back, ONE at a time, trying Safari as you go, see is it crashes.
Good luck! please keep us posted.
Eme'~[)
Please consider marking your Topic posts Helpful Solved,.....helps your helper & most *Importantly other users to find a solution to a similar /same problem

Safari and Camino both hang on specific sites

Hi all
I'm trying to help my girlfriend out with a problem on her computer. Just today, Safari stopped loading the NYTimes home page. It gets most of the way through loading the site, then hangs with a spinning beach ball. Thinking it might be browser related, I got her on to Camino, but it fails the same way. No crash, just a hang.
I read several other posts here that seemed related, and have so far tried:
1) Renaming the hard drive, and restarting Safari
2) Uninstalling and reinstalling Flash
3) Repairing permissions
4) Trying a 'new' account (I actually just logged in as Guest, figured that was enough)
and Safari still does not open successfully. It also fails on Youtube, People, etc, so does seem like a Flash problem.
This is on a 13" Macbook Duo, running 10.6.4. On my computer, a 15" Macbook Pro also running 10.6.4, both Safari and Camino work fine on the same pages.
Her machine worked fine as of yesterday, and there's been no updates to the machine since then. Any ideas on what to check?
Thanks

Thanks for the tips. Sadly that did not solve the problem.
I deleted cache.db. There was nothing in the ~/Library/* directories referred to by that link. The /Library/Internet Plug-ins folder had two things that were non-Flash and non-Quicktime related in there, one was a Shockwave file and the other was Microsoft Silverlight. I followed the instructions to uninstall Silverlight given at Microsoft's website.
After all that, Safari still hangs with the beachball at the NYTimes website and others. I noticed another post that recommended using Activity Monitor to sample the process, the output is below. Any other things to try?
Sampling process 4520 for 3 seconds with 1 millisecond of run time between samples
Sampling completed, processing symbols...
Analysis of sampling Safari (pid 4520) every 1 millisecond
Call graph:
2410 Thread_959322 DispatchQueue_1: com.apple.main-thread (serial)
2410 0x100009b18
2410 NSApplicationMain
2410 -[NSApplication run]
2410 0x1000388c2
2410 -[NSApplication sendEvent:]
2410 0x100041b81
2410 0x100041bf5
2410 -[NSWindow sendEvent:]
2410 -[WebHTMLView keyDown:]
2410 -[NSControl keyDown:]
2410 forwardMethod
2410 forwardMethod
2410 forwardMethod
2410 -[WebFrameView keyDown:]
2410 -[WebFrameView scrollLineDown:]
2410 -[WebFrameView _scrollLineVertically:]
2410 -[WebFrameView _scrollVerticallyBy:]
2410 -[NSClipView _scrollTo:animate:]
2410 -[NSScrollView scrollClipView:toPoint:]
2410 -[NSClipView scrollToPoint:]
2410 -[WebClipView _immediateScrollToPoint:]
2410 -[NSClipView _immediateScrollToPoint:]
2410 -[NSView translateOriginToPoint:]
2410 -[NSView _invalidateFocus]
2410 -[NSView _invalidateGStatesForTree]
2410 CFArrayApplyFunction
2410 -[NSView _invalidateGStatesForTree]
2410 CFArrayApplyFunction
2410 -[NSView _invalidateGStatesForTree]
2410 -[WebBaseNetscapePluginView renewGState]
2410 -[WebHostedNetscapePluginView updateAndSetWindow]
2410 WebKit::NetscapePluginInstanceProxy::resize(CGRect, CGRect)
2410 WebKit::NetscapePluginInstanceProxy::processRequestsAndWaitForReply(unsigned int)
2410 WebKit::NetscapePluginHostProxy::processRequests()
2410 mach_msg
2410 machmsgtrap
2410 Thread_959329 DispatchQueue_2: com.apple.libdispatch-manager (serial)
2410 start_wqthread
2410 pthreadwqthread
2410 dispatch_workerthread2
2410 dispatch_queueinvoke
2410 dispatch_mgrinvoke
2410 kevent
2410 Thread_959333: WebCore: IconDatabase
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 WebCore::IconDatabase::iconDatabaseSyncThread()
2410 WebCore::IconDatabase::syncThreadMainLoop()
2410 pthread_condwait
2410 _semwaitsignal
2410 Thread_959337: Safari: SafeBrowsingManager
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 0x10002f085
2410 0x10002f0f5
2410 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
2410 __CFRunLoopRun
2410 mach_msg
2410 machmsgtrap
2410 Thread_959338
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 _NSThread__main_
2410 +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionReallyInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:]
2410 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
2410 __CFRunLoopRun
2410 mach_msg
2410 machmsgtrap
2410 Thread_959340
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 __CFSocketManager
2410 select$DARWIN_EXTSN
2410 Thread_959351
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 thread_fun
2410 CA::Render::Server::server_thread(void*)
2410 mach_msg
2410 machmsgtrap
2410 Thread_959359
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 startIOThread(void*)
2410 CVDisplayLink::runIOThread()
2410 pthread_condwait
2410 _semwaitsignal
2410 Thread_959461: Safari: SpinningProgressIndicator
2410 thread_start
2410 pthreadstart
2410 _NSThread__main_
2410 0x10008fbdf
2410 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) run]
2410 -[NSRunLoop(NSRunLoop) runMode:beforeDate:]
2410 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
2410 __CFRunLoopRun
2401 mach_msg
2401 machmsgtrap
9 __NSFireTimer
3 0x100090242
3 0x100090594
3 0x10008f074
3 -[NSImage compositeToPoint:operation:]
3 -[NSImage _composite:delta:fromRect:toPoint:]
2 -[NSImage _usingBestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:body:]
1 -[NSAutoreleasePool init]
1 NSPushAutoreleasePool
1 objc_collectingEnabled
1 -[NSImage bestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:]
1 -[NSImage _usingCacheRepPerformBlock:]
1 __-[NSImage bestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:]block_invoke1
1 -[NSSnapshotContextSignature isApplicableForRect:context:hints:]
1 NSImageColorSpaceForReferenceContexthints
1 ripc_GetColorTransform
1 CGColorTransformGetIdentifier
1 -[NSImage drawInRect:fromRect:operation:fraction:respectFlipped:hints:]
1 -[NSImage _usingBestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:body:]
1 -[NSImage bestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:]
1 -[NSImage _usingCacheRepPerformBlock:]
1 __-[NSImage bestRepresentationForRect:context:hints:]block_invoke1
1 -[NSObject(NSObject) retain]
1 __CFDoExternRefOperation
2 0x100090287
2 ripc_Operation
2 CGSDeviceSynchronize
2 _CGSFlushRegionInline
1 _CGSFlushRegionInline
1 mach_msg
1 machmsgtrap
1 0x100090113
1 objc_msgSend
1 0x1000901a3
1 -[NSCFSet objectEnumerator]
1 +[NSObject(NSObject) allocWithZone:]
1 internal_classcreateInstanceFromZone
1 calloc
1 malloczonecalloc
1 szonemalloc_shouldclear
1 tinymalloc_from_freelist
1 0x100090293
1 -[__NSFastEnumerationEnumerator nextObject]
1 __CFBasicHashFastEnumeration
1 CFBasicHashGetBucket
1 objcmsgSendvtable13
2410 Thread_959509
2410 start_wqthread
2410 pthreadwqthread
2410 _workqkernreturn
Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):
7 pthreadstart
7 thread_start
6 mach_msg
6 machmsgtrap
Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
machmsgtrap 12042
_semwaitsignal 4820
_workqkernreturn 2410
kevent 2410
select$DARWIN_EXTSN 2410
Sample analysis of process 4520 written to file /dev/stdout

Using Safari and Camino browsers

Hi Discussions! I read an article in Mac 10 discussions and the person answering said they use Camino browser instead of Safari. How does that work? Do you download and only use Camino and delete Safari or do you keep both and only use one at a time? Sorry for such a sily question but I find it confusing.

Hi Diane
All browsers are just internet access applications. You don't need to use one exclusively, as you can have several on your computer in Applications and just use the one you feel works best. You can even have two browsers open at the same time.
No question is silly if you don;t know the answer. This is what we are here for.
As well as Camino, another popular alternative to Safari is Firefox. Any of these browsers can be downloaded from their respective web sites, just make sure the download is a version suitable for 10.3.9.
So have a play with different browsers. Everyone has their own favourite.
regards roam

Safari and Camino crash when trying to pring.

I have been having a problem with my web browsers crashing whenever I try to print. If I have a site open that I want to print (web reciepts) and if I click the link that prints the browser crashes, if I go to file>print the browser crashes. I don't even get to the print window. Anyone have any ideas what is going on?

Be sure to have the latest universal binary HP 5900 MacOS 10.4.4 driver.
;->
Antonio

I want a toolbar zoom button like I have on Safari and Camino. Help!

No further details needed.

Default Zoom Level extension: <br />
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6965

Safari and Other Browsers Not Working in one account

The account that I use mostly, a standard account, has suddenly lost all web browser function, and I'm not aware of having changed anything recently.
When I try using Safari in the Admin Account it works fine (except for some reason I can't login to my .mac account either, I'm posting this from yet another standard account, which works fine as well). I've tried switching the standard account with the issue to an admin, but get the same results.
The results are that Safari (and any other browser) says it cannot find the server of the website I'm looking for.
I've also tried unplugging our router and plugging it back in to restart it without success.
Has anyone encountered this issue before?

Ok, I have not tried that yet, but before I do, I have a newly discovered wrinkle for you-
I have found that I can browse in the bad account with Safari and Camino (and I suppose anything else), but only if I am going to "secure" pages, that is pages that begin with "https" rather than "http".
Incidentally, thanks for the help on the previous post. That may be what I eventually try.
Does this new detail shed any light on the problem?

Some websites with Flash crash Safari, OmniWeb, Camino (9.0.124.0)

For several weeks, I've found that some sites with Flash will
crash OmniWeb, Safari, and Camino. The applications don't quit, but
they do freeze with the spinning pinwheel. I have cleared the
caches and history for each with no change.
The first site that I noticed this on was
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index,
but I've since found the same behavior on other sites.
The problem is the same on two different computers: 1.
PowerMac G4 dual 450 MHz, 1GB of RAM, plenty of disk space, running
10.4.11. 2. Mac Pro dual 2.8 Gz, 2 GB of RAM, plenty of disk space,
running 10.5.2, fresh install.
I've attached a sample of what was happening in OmniWeb at
the time of crash, taken using Activity Monitor.

Upon further investigation, it appears to be a JavaScript
calling Flash Player that's the problem. In OmniWeb, using
site-specific preferences, I was able to turn off JavaScript for
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/index.
Loading the site no longer crashes OW; if I turn off JavaScript in
Safari, it also loads the site.
I have run into other sites that cause the same problem,
however, so this solution will continue to be hit or miss.
I don't know whether there is anything that Adobe can do to
solve this problem, but some investigation would be helpful.
Thanks.

Both Safari 4.1 and Camino 2.0.3 browser issues

Hi,
I have issues with both of the browsers I have installed on my powerbook G4 17" laptop.
Safari takes 10-12 minutes for the home-page to load. After it loads, I can surf properly again but then after 5-30 minutes of surfing, I get the spinning beach ball. If I wait (5-10 minutes) for something to happen, I get the window with the message stating that safari crashed and asks if I want to reopen or close the application. The only other way to close safari immediately is to force quit. This problem has been happening for about 1-2 months.
Camino opens normally, in terms of speed, but I almost immediately get the spinning beach ball. Again, if I wait 5-10 minutes, the application closes and I get the same window as I get with safari quitting. I also use force quit to close camino. This problem has also been happening for about 1-2 months.
My internet comes from a high-speed connection hard wired into a windows pc which is also connected to an apple airport extreme which provides our wi-fi. The windows pc also has the pc version of safari and it starts up immediately and doesn't crash like my mac laptop's safari. My laptop runs off of the airport extreme's wi-fi signal, but there are no problems with the wi-fi because there are 2 iphone 3GSs and one ipod touch also running off the same wi-fi and there are no issues using the mobile safari at all. So the problem must be with my mac laptop....
Thanks for any suggestions.
HERE IS WHAT I HAVE
(all my software is up to date.)
Hardware Overview:
Machine Name: PowerBook G4 17"
Machine Model: PowerBook5,7
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.2)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.67 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.9.1f1
Serial Number: W851400DRJ3
Sudden Motion Sensor:
State: Enabled
Version: 1.0
System Software Overview:
System Version: Mac OS X 10.4.11 (8S165)
Kernel Version: Darwin 8.11.0
Boot Volume: Macintosh HD
Computer Name: Tim’s PowerBook G4 17"
User Name: Tim (tim)

Go here for trouble shooting 3rd party plugins or input managers which might be causing the problem. Safari: Add-ons may cause Safari to unexpectedly quit or have performance issues
I FOLLOWED these instructions then restarted my machine. No effect.
If third party add-ons aren't the issue, From the Safari Menu Bar, click Safari / Reset Safari. Select the top 7 buttons and click Reset. Relaunch Safari. If still takes a long time to load your home page...
I FOLLOWED these instructions then restarted my machine. No effect.
Repair Disk Permissions.
Launch Disk Utility. (Applications/Utilities) Select MacintoshHD in the panel on the left, select the FirstAid tab. Click: Repair Disk Permissions. When it's finished from the Menu Bar, Quit Disk Utility and restart your Mac. If you see a long list of "messages" in the permissions window, it's ok. That can be ignored. As long as you see, "Permissions Repair Complete" when it's finished... you're done. Quit Disk Utility and restart your Mac.
I FOLLOWED these instructions then restarted my machine. No effect. (I knew about this feature in disk utility from using final cut pro on my mac, so use it regularly).
Try logging into another user account. Try Safari functions as it should there then at least the problem is isolated to your user account only.
I FOLLOWED these instructions then restarted my machine and this one WORKED!! I now log into the new account and safari starts up immediately like before. I'm not sure what's wrong with my old account, but this tip worked well.
Try troubleshooting the Safari .plist file. Go to the Safari Menu Bar, click Safari/Preferences. Make note of all the preferences under each tab. Quit Safari. Now go to ~/Library/Preferences and move this file com.apple.safari.plist to the Desktop.
Relaunch Safari and see if that makes a difference. If not, move the .plist file back to the Preferences folder. If Safari functions as it should, move that .plist file to the Trash.
If nothing above helps, please post a crash log.
Open a Finder window. From the Menu Bar click Go / Go to Folder. Copy/paste this path into the Finder dialog: ~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter
Click Go. The Finder will open containing the crash log. Copy and paste the most recent log here in your reply.
Note. For help with Camino, check out their forums here. http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=12
Carolyn
Thanks so much to both of you for your help.
Tim

How do I migrate bookmarks from Camino to Firefox? My only options are Safari and Chrome.

I've followed the on-site directions for this migration ("migrate from another browser") but my only options via that route are Safari and Chrome.

Export bookmarks from camino using the instructions at http://caminobrowser.org/documentation/bookmarks/#export .
Then import the html file into firefox using the instructions in the [[Import Bookmarks from a HTML file]] article.
Does that fix the problem?

Safari and yahoo mail not getting along

Safari and Yahoo Mail don't seem to be getting along this past month

Hi powerbook1701!
It is a shame...Yahoo has always been bad with Safari...I think most people here keep a copy of Firefox/Camino for cases like this when webdesigners don't make their pages compatible with Safari. It's not much of a problem anymore but there are still a few sites depending on where you surf...
Actually the reason I started using Mail is because the standard Yahoo mail wouldn't display custom fonts, etc. on Mac. At that time not even with Firefox for Windows. But I'm glad that I switched because I enjoy using Mail much more that Yahoo's webmail which by the way was never good at searching...
Oops this sounds like Yahoo bashing!!! It's not meant to be...just letting you know other people have the same issues you're experiencing...
Reg

Safari and Flash

Safari and Flash does not work correctly. I always have problems accessing flash sites, like this:
http://globosat.globo.com/telecine/servicos/programacao.asp
There is a blank rectangle below the flash menu, I can't see the content correctly.
I think Apple must work with Macromedia to give us a better internet experience...

Hi xPixel,
You can't click anything on menu (there is a flash animation floating around the window)
image: http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagem20ox.jpg
URL: http://www.claro.com.br/portal/site/siteTA/ (please select "Rio de Janeiro")
This also doesn't work with Firefox, Camino or Opera. That page also has a whopping 367 errors according to the web standards validation page (validator.w3.org).
You see a blank rectangle above the menu and can't click it
image: http://img414.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagem15yo.jpg
URL: http://globosat.globo.com/telecine/servicos/programacao.asp
The same for this site - neither Firefox, Camino or Opera will display anything in the blank area.
Can't click the menu on this site
image: http://img44.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imagem37sy.jpg
URL: http://www.premierpet.com.br/
And exactly the same for this. So, I'd say there isn't a serious problem with Safari and Flash, since they all fail in 3 other browsers as well.
Apple can only do so much with sloppily coded websites. If these sites want your business the onus should be on them to make them work correctly with as many browsers as possible. This is the real solution.

Safari and web export

I'm having a problem with a LR gallery I've exported. it shows fine as a flash gallery in safari but not as a html gallery, background colours are wrong (brown instead of blue), and the images are not displayed properly (image is too big for rectangle it is displayed and there are no scroll bars).
this is not a problem in firefox.
Can peeps check the gallery for me please and advise on what's happening?
thanks
... oh the galleries are here:
flash http://www.ba-joseph.co.uk/flashgallery/index.html
html http://www.ba-joseph.co.uk/gallery/index.html
thanks again.

Ok, I'm posting my test results in case anyone is curious (I still am!):
http://www.madamexpod.com/lightshows/LS_sample01/index.html -
Exported from Lightroom yesterday. Remains mangled in different ways on Safari, IE, FIrefox and Camino on my end, though others in this thread say it works for them.
http://www.madamexpod.com/lightshows/LS_sample02/index.html -
Identical gallery, exported from Lightroom today (no changes). Works on Safari, is mangled on IE (shows up as only one cell with one thumbnail, then gets all goofy when trying to view the full size image), works on FIrefox and Camino
http://www.madamexpod.com/lightshows/LS_sample03/index.html -
Identical gallery, exported from Lightroom moments ago (no changes). Identical results to sample02 above.
So, for some unknown reason, sample01 is mangled for me. All of my galleries are mangled on IE but now they work on other browsers.
One more request: anyone want to try any/all of these on IE? That seems to be the weakest point here.
Huge thanks for all interested and helping!
Jeff

Appearance of iWeb 2.0.2 pages in Safari and other browsers

I guess this question has been posted several times before because I can't find the relevant search terms to limit the number of answers to a reasonable count. Thus, sorry for the repetition (if so).
Is there a way to amend the appearance problems of iWeb 2.0.2 pages in Safari and other browsers?
Problems are:
Safari: color management (?) - take a look at this site: http://shivaduo.jan-groh.de - Text and frame were created with exactly the same web safe color (990033), but they differ a lot.
Firefox 2..., IE 6, Camino 1.5, Shiira: no shadows, (some) no reflections, (all) horizontally broken lines in reflections of frames, (Windows) fonts (Trebuchet MS) get changed (worked perfectly before with iWeb 1... on exactly the same computer).
Is there any remedy to this aestheical disaster (which was the main reason for me to switch to iLife '08)?
Thanks in advance,
Rosember
(Sorry for posting this one again, chose the wrong forum last time... )

I guess this question has been posted several times before because I can't find the relevant search terms to limit the number of answers to a reasonable count. Thus, sorry for the repetition (if so).
Is there a way to amend the appearance problems of iWeb 2.0.2 pages in Safari and other browsers?
Problems are:
Safari: color management (?) - take a look at this site: http://shivaduo.jan-groh.de - Text and frame were created with exactly the same web safe color (990033), but they differ a lot.
Firefox 2..., IE 6, Camino 1.5, Shiira: no shadows, (some) no reflections, (all) horizontally broken lines in reflections of frames, (Windows) fonts (Trebuchet MS) get changed (worked perfectly before with iWeb 1... on exactly the same computer).
Is there any remedy to this aestheical disaster (which was the main reason for me to switch to iLife '08)?
Thanks in advance,
Rosember
(Sorry for posting this one again, chose the wrong forum last time... )

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