Safari Communication interference: modem, router & airport extreme?

Safari Communication interference: modem, router & airport extreme?
I am using:
Connection: aonSpeed ADSL (AUSTRIA)
Modem: Thomson Speedtouch 546i
Router: Zyxel Prestige 334
Wireless: Airport Extreme
Computers:
MacBookPro 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 3GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM running OSX version 10.4.9
Dual 2.3 Ghz PowerPC G5 with 2GB DDR SDRAM running OSX version 10.4.9
Since I am using a MacBook Pro and a NON-Intel G5 I selected 801.11n(802.11b/g compatible) setting.
Wireless security: WPA/WPA2 Personal
Connection Sharing: Off (Bridge Mode)
Ethernet WAN Port: 100 Mbps/Full Duplex
My Internet (Safari) problems kept recurring. Slow and incomplete loading of pages, especially special pages - banks etc. I tried all the recommended solutions - delete lists, etc, etc.
Various times the pages would load (usually after reconfiguration with restarts).
After some time (within 24 hours) the problem would resurface.
When the pages don't load it occurred both on the powerPC and the Intel machines.
Also with wireless as well as ethernet cable. Also with Safari and Firefox.
Also with my original Airport express and the new Airport extreme.
I bought am Airport Extreme and connected it. First everything was OK.
The next day same problem.
I restarted modem, router, airport and computer. Worked again!
Today same problem. Tried restart scenario but no go.
I finally realized that the amber light was on on the airport. Message was NO INTERNET CONNECTION because no valid IP address for the airport.
I was however connected! Only some pages didn't load.
I did the restart with router and airport FIRST and then the modem. GREEN LIGHT and the pages loaded! CRAZY.
By evening the problem gradually began again.
This morning I restarted again router and airport FIRST and then the modem then computer.
Low and behold GREEN LIGHT and the pages loaded!
Today I plugged the power of modem, router and Airport extreme into the same power strip, thus starting them all at the same time.
All the pages loaded normally.
Could there be an incompatibility or communication interference between modem, router, airport extreme and computer?
Any suggestion?
Regards,
TOM from Innsbruck
see also Safari thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=963686&start=0&tstart=0

I now have the Airport Extreme, apparently I have to turn off the wi fi on my netgear router, I was wondering how you do that,
I have logged in to my netgear smart wizard, I have chosen wireless settings, and in there i have a heading
Wireless Access Point
Under that heading I have 2 box's checked, The first box checked is Enable Wireless Access Point.
The other box checked is Allow Broadcast of Name ( SSID ) And the third box which is unchecked is Wireless Isolation
Is it just a case of unchecking the box Enable Wireless Access Point, or is the off switch somewhere else.
Thanks
M

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Peace
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1) The MBP is on my network, for sure, not a neighbor's. I'm doing all of this wirelessly, though tested the modem via Ethernet to make sure the modem was working.
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I have an ADSL modem that I use to connect my
Powerbook, using a USB connection. I have now got an
Airport Extreme Base Station. I have only managed to
connect to my ADSL modem directly to my computer
(sitting on an uncomfortable floor) if I want to use
broadband; OR connect wirelessly to the internet with
Airport but using the dial-up phone line.
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You will need a new ethernet equipped modem to connect to any router, either Apple's or another manufacturer. USB modems cannot be networked. There are adsl modem/wireless router combos, or you can get an ethernet adsl modem and connect it to any wireless router, or ethernet router with an attached wireless access point.
Q1: Do I need to buy an ADSL modem with an ethernet
port connection to connect into the base station
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These guys provide excellent Mac support, including AirPort:
http://www.adslnation.com/products/xmodem-m3.php
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http://www.adslguide.org.uk/
OR
Q3: Can the USB port on the base station be used with
my current ADSL modem?
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Q4: Am I asking the impossible or missing something?
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