Safari ram usage always swells and swells

After upgrading to 2gb of ram I started to keep the activity monitor on and couldnt help notice that safari when fresh is like 30mb or so then as it gets used it swells and swells to 300+mb it never gives ram back? Even if I close tabs or switch to just plain google with a plain page....
Is this normal? I would think it would give back the ram as I close pages, etc...
This sure would explain why when I left the machine on with Safari running it seemed to get slower , hence the upgrade to more ram.....
If your at 1gb and never shut your machine down and never close Safari it will swell to a large size so you better quit Safari and then reload it just to get the free ram back.
I have a G5 w/4gb before so I never paid much attention but I'm gonna check it just to see if it behaves like that....

...or alternatively run another browser like Firefox or Camino

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First timer here. Ok here's my question :
I recently bought a secondhand Macbook pro 15 inch. For me it's a huge upgrade coming from a 2009 13 inch Macbook pro. Because a friend of mine wants to buy my old one I was doing some diagnostics on the 13 inch, which has 4 GB of RAM, and found out it had a lot of inactive RAM usage and wired usage, almost 2 GB, due to a lot of launchdaemons etc which were hogging the RAM. I used terminal to kill these agents and deamons and now that system is running smooth again. Maybe it's wise to mention that the 13 inch runs on ML.
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This is a good explanation…
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2013/10/os-x-10-9/17/#compressed-memory
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Please avoid killing launchd jobs, many will simply restart or relaunch again later. Eventually you may kill one that hangs the OS & corrupts the disk via a forced shutdown.
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Well, i've got my 13' Macbook Air today (4gb ram), and love it.
The only thing that bothers me is the extremely high ram usage of Lion, when i turn the Macbook on it jumps to about 1.3gb ram usage which i find really much considering my PC running Windows 7 uses less.
After some casual usage it even jumps up to about 2 gb ram usage.
Is this normal? how are the other Air's with only 2gb of ram handling this? there can't be much left there, besides just running the operating system.
i am new to Mac's so am i doing something wrong?

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After last Lion update a i seem to encounter a very strange situation regarding ram usage.
I have an early 13' mbp core i5 with 8gb of ram.
After upgrading to lion 10.7.1 i have less than 500mb available after just a few hours since i turn it on.
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Upon quitting excell, itunes, appstore and restarting mail and safari i still only get 1,5gb of free ram.
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